Personally, I think the 'ask permission' thing is going to backfire for QQ since right now they're under the radar, but by asking for permission, the actual existence of QQ will become more well known, and get more people looking into things, and inevitably fucking around.
Might be overly paranoid, but eh, that's my two cents.
Case with Wuxiaworld is...they bought the rights for the english translations to the original authors. So if, say, someone posted one of said translations here on QQ (either the one made by Wuxiaworld or by themselves), then Wuxiaworld could send a take down notice, and they would legally be fully on their rights.
I mean in terms of usability, the sites are worthless. I used to read plenty of xianxia on Wuxiaworld's site, but when I went back to reread an old favorite there, like half the chapters were 'locked' and needed a membership or some shit, it was crazy.
NovelUpdates isn't where you publish the translations, it is a site that tells you where you can find them (with or without permission from the author). And it is very, very common for some of those to be taken down since they are fan translations
In Novelupdates case, it used to be that they didn't *host* the work, they *linked* to the work, or at least to the translator's website. Nowadays, they don't do either of those things.
I looked up a story, and despite all the info the page gave, it didn't link to the translator at all, meaning all the site is good for is titles of stories and the actual names of translation groups, and you just gotta hunt them down yourself. Massively reduced the value of the site for me tbh.
Fanfiction is generally non-profit works so there is no financial harm done, but could be somewhat assholish if there is no permission given.
This makes sense, if it's more "we don't want translated fanfics unless you have permission', then that's more understandable. It's a dick move to host one without telling the author anyways, but when it's a fanfic I kind of don't mind as much if they didn't get permission, given there's effectively zero percent chance they'll ever translate the fanfic themselves, whereas with original works there's all kinds of wild shit that can happen, since fanfics are more or less verboten in terms of profiting off them.
Is it really? I mean it's certainly a good form, but I doubt any of them asked permission from the original authors before writing their fanfics.
Kinda my thoughts. Like, on one hand, dick move translating and hosting elsewhere without telling them, but on the other, like, they ain't gonna translate it themselves, and the people reading it are clearly people that were never going to find/read the work themselves, so I don't really mind from a moral standpoint.
Totally understandable if the rule is that you NEED the fanfic writer's okay, though.
The original work one I get, though. Webnovel are a bunch of absolute fucking cunts, and I know that form the old days of wuxiaworld and the shit webnovel pulled. If you're wanting to avoid their eye, then yeah, I get that.
I'm glad to see it. The increasing number of these has been twigging my wariness towards liability issues, as well as my plagiarism sense like crazy. We don't allow people to post other people's works that were already in English without having permission, why should we allow it just because it needed to be run through a machine translation program first?
It's a relief to just be rid of the problem once and for all.
Original works, sure, but fanfics are already derivative and not something that people should be profiting heavily from, lest the almighty LAW be dragged into our incredibly niche hobby, which nobody wants.
In terms of translated original works, I might be a bit annoyed, but I 100% understand and can agree with the logic and idea there. But in terms of actual FANFICS, like, I really think that they should be okay.
I heard from a translator that does a series that its make it difficult for people to scrape translations for their AI voiceover on youtube, tiktok or other social media sites.
And, of course, as a result it's getting less people reading them because ain't nobody got time for fucking mobile game gems being needed for chapters.
yeah, chinese webnovel sites are a menace just as bad as korean kaokao webnovel host especially as the latter is one of the corporations that tried to take over kadokawa the other being tencent.
They're a cancer, man. Like, the worst business practices, and generally just awful interactions.