ood Chapter, but I think you missed agility for the SPECIAL skills when you listed them.
I'll try to fix it tomorrow, because I'm pretty tired.
Okay then, from the top.
In the previous versions, even when Daisuke was emotionally crippled to the extreme, he still seemed to act with a iron core of empathy, towards others and especially his friends, and he treated the complicated romantic situation with the respect it deserved.
No, he treated trained killers like helpless infants with zero emotional resilience and himself like a pariah for having biological urges. I don't consider that respectful anymore, I consider it unnecessarily self-destructive.
This Daisuke is supposed to be far better in interpreting and understanding emotions, but he honestly sounds even more sociopathic than the literal sociopath version. He, for the last few chapters, has been acting as though the females around him would immediately jump at the chance of being his concubines, he's been apologetically lusting after girls that are twelve (a fact that has been shown in previous versions to be a major moral sticking point for his character), and he's been completely neglecting to think of what would be best for the friends that he ostensibly cares for. It feels like the girls around him are suddenly just checkboxes to mark off.
Yes, he has greater understanding of himself. More importantly, he's got more leniency for himself and the situation he is in, because it's not his fault and setting himself on fire over it doesn't help anything. He's accepted his situation for what it is and is trying to make the best of it. The 'age thing' as I believe I've illustrated but will now say is
ridiculous in this context because historically, girls as young as twelve used to marry 30-40 year old men par the course. This concept of childhood and the accompanying moral standards is a recent, Modern Invention. Not a
bad one, but one that doesn't exist in the historical period
Naruto is based on. You know, because of child soldiers?
As for 'he's been completely neglecting what would be best for his friends', this is patently false. Since the whole thought process started, his position has been 'if they don't want it, it doesn't happen'. Here, let me quote the chapter for you.
Remember Daisuke, you might not have any real chemistry with any of these girls and I need to let them go in such cases. That's okay, we're just fantasizing right now. Not much point in seriously considering it until I know that my main wife is okay with it. And not like 'it's my duty and we need the bloodline' okay with it, I mean actually okay with it with no emotional hang-ups whatsoever. She says no? That's the end of it.
I hope she hasn't just had her heart broken into a thousand pieces. Or if it has, that I can put it back together.
Here he is showing concern for Anko, and then Hisako. If he marries Anko and she doesn't want it, it doesn't happen. Given how Harem's are a part of their culture and legal framework, how is this not caring? The first part of this chapter was him just
fantasizing. Idly day-dreaming.
Oh, here's an informative post for you to look over regarding the
age of consent.
I really hope there's something that I'm missing here, because this seems like a major flanderization (bimboization) of the characters and story that I've read so far.
Two things.
One, I've changed as a person, grown up and become more healthy, Psychologically.
The second, is that your objection seems rooted in your personal feelings against harems and bigamy. I don't begrudge you for these feelings, nor will I attempt to argue with them, but I do ask that if you just have a problem with the concept
just say so instead of trying to cloak it in blatant falsehoods that sound morally right.
Naruto stops acting rash as he grows up, he matures and stops with most of his dumb shenanigans once he realises people acknolodge him.
No, he stops doing dumb shenanigans and then people recognize him.
Hinata doesnt need to set boundaries because Naruto doesnt stay a child and she's not a carpet because she can stand up for herself when it matters.
That...no. No, no, no. That is not how it works. Healthy Relationships are a direct result healthy boundaries from both sides. Without boundaries, one individual takes, takes and takes while the other just gives, gives and gives. The one doing the taking doesn't realize he's taking advantage of people and the one who gives slowly builds up a giant resentment toward their partner. That's. Not. Good.
Maybe not as they are right now, but your wording implies that both of them are just gonna remain mentally as children.
I don't see it, Daisuke's just looking at them in the now.
Daisuke could have directed Naruto pretty easily without him even noticing though.
"All right Naruto, I challenge you do X, if you win I'll show you something cool, if you lose then you have to do X training."
That's manipulative and Naruto's smart enough to see right through it and resent Daisuke. Also, I don't think Daisuke is the type to do this.
enough about the harem, what about the penguins? are they still a thing?
Please consider the following.
When did the Penguin's show up in the previous draft?
Where are we at in this story?
Patience, please.
So I really think it's important to sit down and think about what you actually want. A sexual event with lots of people is definitely an interesting thing that could be fun, but committing to a large group is emotionally draining if you're actually trying to make a stable long-term thing out of it.
I completely agree! Daisuke hasn't quite gotten there yet and not only does he need to think about what he actually wants, he needs to ask someone else what
they actually want and that's coming! I promise.
I would argue that the non-sexual half, having people to comfort and offer support during trying times, is more valuable in the core group. That single nights of holy crap passion can be an optional thing if the group agrees, but not necessarily a reason to add a whole bunch of people to the core group.
This is just plain correct. Sex is fine, can be really memorable and lots of fun, but it's not everything. It's extremely important to ensure everyone feels emotionally fulfilled and if there's sex too, that's fine. But emotional comfort and fulfillment is really where it's at.
In fact I would argue that having a total of three people involved would be ideal, of any combination of sexes. Aside from when all three have time to be together, the much more likely scenario of someone having something to do would allow the other two to still enjoy themselves while work is getting done. Assuming that communication is kept open, you could create a real happy life with two people who would be able to back you up when needed but still have the option for very kinky sex stuff if the three of you feel up for it!
Sure! Sure, I concede you have a point there.
People have moods when they want to have an orgy, and there's enough people out there that you can probably set one up if the people involved in your core group are attractive enough or if they're wealthy or if they're powerful... But finding somebody who cares about each other is much harder to do.
I agree with that. Asking someone to care for one person with everything is...hard. Rare for it to last, if only because communication breaks down. Please care for
everyone I have here? That's...that's going to be a lot.
If you go with Anko, who seems to always be a loyal woman in the stories she's included in, as well as open to unconventional things? Finding a single person to join in with you would ensure that if something goes wrong you would have a partner to help you find the third one... And most importantly in my mind, cuddle pile.
Three people make the perfect cuddle pile. Not too large for most beds, can fit on those couches, and it's fairly easy to get out of the pile if someone needs to go to the bathroom. And when I was most depressed and feeling down, well sometimes you really need someone to hug.
Thank you so much for the well thought out post, I appreciate it and you've given me something to think about.
Have a plate of cookies you wonderful person.
hmmm anko, ayame are two good choices? no for hinata since she loves naruto, but cannot really refuse an offer from a noble house without seeming rude, so maybe hanabi? Then there is Hisako? so harem of 4 max?
We'll see, but I'm just opening the possibility.
