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Twisted Pinwheel

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Chibi-Reaper said:
As problems go, mental contamination is no fucking joke.

You live in a village with the Yamanaka clan. They do not like to talk about it, but... stuff happens. Compounded with Konoha's generally unobtrusive quiet-type genjutsu users, and... well.
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Whenever anyone talks about a civilian council I imagine just how many genjutsus they must be hit with by all the spies and agents wandering the village. The sheer amount of resources it would take to protect civilians from gratuitous brain rape from enemy influences boggles the mind. And then you have to factor in gratuitous brain rape from friendly forces. Because, for ninjas, a vote isn't a noble democratic ideal, it's a clarion call to cheat like the cheaty, cheating cheaters that they are.

[X] You follow the chakra in.
 
Conu said:
Whenever anyone talks about a civilian council I imagine just how many genjutsus they must be hit with by all the spies and agents wandering the village. The sheer amount of resources it would take to protect civilians from gratuitous brain rape from enemy influences boggles the mind. And then you have to factor in gratuitous brain rape from friendly forces. Because, for ninjas, a vote isn't a noble democratic ideal, it's a clarion call to cheat like the cheaty, cheating cheaters that they are.
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Yet another reason why the civilian council is an entirely fanon construct, yes. The closest we ever see in canon are the Hokage's advisers, who are both retired ninjas themselves and only advisers.
 
Honestly, my head-canon is that while a civilian council exists, it exists purely at the sufferance of the Hokage.

It just makes sense to me because running a village, even a military one, seems like it would be beyond one man. So many things that need attention but shouldn't be worth bothering the village dictator.
 
JadeKaiser said:
Yet another reason why the civilian council is an entirely fanon construct, yes. The closest we ever see in canon are the Hokage's advisers, who are both retired ninjas themselves and only advisers.
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Not just retired ninjas, but Sarutobi's former teammates (and former rival).
People who were or are near his level.
 
RoninSword said:
Honestly, my head-canon is that while a civilian council exists, it exists purely at the sufferance of the Hokage.

It just makes sense to me because running a village, even a military one, seems like it would be beyond one man. So many things that need attention but shouldn't be worth bothering the village dictator.
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Yeah, same. I imagine that there are quite a few committees, councils, tribunals and departments that are civilian or mixed civilian/military. The Leaf Village is not small. And it would be a security nightmare.

Just the sewerage system. It's a shitty job, pun intended, that no one wants to do. But it is critical infrastructure, necessary for the smooth running of the village. Half a dozen genjutsu'd workers and a box of explosive notes is more than enough to see Konohagakure up shit creek, literally. I really have no idea how they deal with that sort of thing.
 
One story I read had a council be split between military members (both clan and not), and civilians. Eventually the civilians attempted to influence military matters and were just smacked down.


Anyways, does anyone have any extra concerns that this demon arm, when deciding to open its eye, opened a sharingan? Or is it just a matter of copying our eyes and since we pretty much always have our sharingan on, it just copied it without knowing what the hell it was doing?
 
Conu said:
Yeah, same. I imagine that there are quite a few committees, councils, tribunals and departments that are civilian or mixed civilian/military. The Leaf Village is not small. And it would be a security nightmare.

Just the sewerage system. It's a shitty job, pun intended, that no one wants to do. But it is critical infrastructure, necessary for the smooth running of the village. Half a dozen genjutsu'd workers and a box of explosive notes is more than enough to see Konohagakure up shit creek, literally. I really have no idea how they deal with that sort of thing.
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Noncombatant genins, maybe.
Perhaps those who fail at the exams to get a genin team flush into a genin corps which has non-combat duties for at least some of it's numbers.

So their civil service workers can be ninjas of at least some ability to learn to resist genjutsu.
 
RoninSword said:
And our arm is probobly going to eat him if he tries to do anything to it.
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But, but our-stolen-arm-of-dubious-provenance X Danzos-crime-against-nature-and-chakra OTP!

One was stolen from the corpse of a hero and dominated by the eyes of a remorseless young girl, one was created with the flesh of a hero and the eyes of villains by a remorseless old man. Together they fight crime find love!
 
Conu said:
One was stolen from the corpse of a hero and dominated by the eyes of a remorseless young girl, one was created with the flesh of a hero and the eyes of villains by a remorseless old man. Together they fight crime find love!
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i would rather have Danzo adopt us and make Mio his heir, then his waifu.

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Honestly, Danzo would probably be more likely to buy Sharingans off of Mio than take them. Mio would likely agree, if only to spit on the memory of the clan elders, and this way Danzo gets a self-refreshing source of Sharingan eyes that he has a legitimate answer to the question of where he got them.
 
prandom said:
Honestly, Danzo would probably be more likely to buy Sharingans off of Mio than take them. Mio would likely agree, if only to spit on the memory of the clan elders, and this way Danzo gets a self-refreshing source of Sharingan eyes that he has a legitimate answer to the question of where he got them.
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I mean, I can totally see Mio doing that. I just don't know if I want to do that because its Danzo.
 
[X] You follow the chakra in.

This can't possibly go wrong.
 
Look at it this way, if we steal the Shouldaime, we can pump unlimited boosted izanagis and izanamis ourself.
/jk

That'd require body modification MIO is disinclined to, though.
Also, it's actually a terrible idea, because it's the Shouldaime
 
inverted_helix said:
I didn't realize this was an option.
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In Mio's case it isn't, because reverse summoning yourself from a personal pocket dimension that can connect to the real world and the afterlife, among other places, at the whim of its wielder? Things get weird. Mio ain't getting home by walking.

JadeKaiser said:
Yet another reason why the civilian council is an entirely fanon construct, yes. The closest we ever see in canon are the Hokage's advisers, who are both retired ninjas themselves and only advisers.
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There isn't so much an overarching council on civilian matters so much as there are competing groups and interests that have little to no power of their own but do a lot of lobbying and politics. If an illuminati formed in the civilians, they'd keep their mouths shut hard about everything and not do much because both the ninja of the village they live in and the daimyo and actual nobility of the country... take a dim view on the peasantry and merchant class attempting to form shadow cabals.

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Danzo.
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OH BOOOOOOY, HEEEERE WE GO ON AN ADVENTURE. The game is 'what will Danzo decide to do when/if you get back?'

Place your bets ladies and gentlemen. And our dear leader of the canon shadowy cabal in Konoha isn't the only interested party.
 
Not exactly a Bijuu
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    • This is a lot easier than with Dummy, you realize as you slip into the arm's mind.

    Maybe the Oni is just naturally resistant to Genjutsu? Or you're just enough of a genius that after one failure and no other practice or instruction, you pulled off a success. The other option you can think of, that the arm having its own sharingan but not knowing how it works, or how to use it, made it easier is... just ridiculous. Extremely so. Not even worth thinking about.

    Not when you instantly have to focus on the squamous mass of... flesh and stuff that's the arm's mental representation of itself, wriggling and howling with madness.

    "MEEEEAT!? HOW DAAAAARE YOOOOOOOU!" The arm-thing howls.

    "Again, not what I expected." you mumble wryly, having mentally pictured... maybe a bigger arm?

    "SUBMIT! SUBMIIIIIT!" it continues howling, lengths of... lengths stretching towards you, with cruel barbs, teeth, and bulbous growths.

    Obviously, you dodge them.

    This is going just great. You expected... you don't know. Some kind of hypnotic effect, to lull the thing into sleep, or at least quiet it down? Instead, you're getting a full on fight against a parasite monster.

    And your arms back off. Fun.

    On the plus side, you're pretty sure that everything in here works by dint of willing it to be so, and you've always been headstrong. A blade appears in your hand and you cut off the screaming thing's nearest... appendage. It starts to grow back towards the main mass, but then you will it to be on fire, and that happens.

    No chakra use here. Just force of will. You can do this.

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    [ ] Your guest is moving around a lot. Need to stuff it in a bottle or something.
    [ ] 'Submit'? No, you. Keep cutting bits off and smacking it around until that happens.
    [ ] You've been eating a lot of nasty things lately. You're gonna eat this too.
    [ ] ??
     
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    • [ ] You've been eating a lot of nasty things lately. You're gonna eat this too.
    This sounds like the option for making it's strength our own...but also like it might lead to some mental contamination even with it gone.
     
    [x] 'Submit'? No, you. Keep cutting bits off and smacking it around until that happens.

    I want it to be in a reasonably intact state so that it can be interrogated on its nature and the nature of this realm.
     
    [x] You've been eating a lot of nasty things lately. You're gonna eat this too.
     
    [X] 'Submit'? No, you. Keep cutting bits off and smacking it around until that happens.
     
    [X] 'Submit'? No, you. Keep cutting bits off and smacking it around until that happens.

    Until someone forms a more fitting write-in, sticking with this.
     
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