DeathReaperZ
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Thank you, corrected.
That wouldn't be a good idea. Cyttorak demands certain things of his juggernauts. When Cain Marko tried being a superhero for a while, Cyttorak drained his power and eventually gave it to someone else.Actually this got me thinking that a Juggernaut alt.Paul could work as a Grayven equivalent for Marvel universes.
Superstrong New God of Conquest via transformation by Fatherbox, Superstrong demon avatar of Destruction via transformation by mystic gem, I can see it.
He's using a slightly different mental state to fly faster. He usually used the orange light to fly.
Essentially what I meant, but thank you for the swift reply. However, why would it appear as orange? If all he's doing is adopting a slightly different mental state, how is it affecting his desires so much to make the text orange?He's using a slightly different mental state to fly faster. He usually used the orange light to fly.
Orange italics indicates that he'd partially 'in' the honden.Essentially what I meant, but thank you for the swift reply. However, why would it appear as orange? If all he's doing is adopting a slightly different mental state, how is it affecting his desires so much to make the text orange?
One's a high functioning alcoholic supervillain. As for Richards, I rather like the Minion explanation, that he's sponsored by a company which then holds the exclusive rights to the commercial utilisation of his work... And doesn't, for the same reason that Hoover didn't want the Dyson. He's not aware of that because he's not interested in it and so hasn't ever investigated.Come to think of it, Marvel's probably worse, when it comes to not applying technology to the society. Stark and Richards don't even have the excuse of being insane.
Fuck..Now I'm all excited to see Paul-Doom commercialize Marvel's super-tech and give Mr. Fantastic all the Reason you suck speechesOne's a high functioning alcoholic supervillain. As for Richards, I rather like the Minion explanation, that he's sponsored by a company which then holds the exclusive rights to the commercial utilisation of his work... And doesn't, for the same reason that Hoover didn't want the Dyson. He's not aware of that because he's not interested in it and so hasn't ever investigated.
I can't help but imagine them threatening Paul to pay them so that they'll leave him alone.Part of the fun here is that Shocker and friends, along with everyone else in the bar, are listening in on this conversation. Paul leaves quite an impression on people when he's taking things seriously.
Well he is a demon, that sounds about right.
Although Cyttorak thought that Colossus was a great avatar, so heroically smashing stuff pleases him just as much as villainously smashing stuff, so I could see an alt.Paul powered by the Ruby of Cyttorak.
It's not like there's a shortage of stuff that deserves smashing in a Marvel universe, or that power rings are bad at smashing stuff.
"The Quist are trying to invade Earth again, I'll go have a good talk with them, explosions will be involved."
Come to think of it, Marvel's probably worse, when it comes to not applying technology to the society. Stark and Richards don't even have the excuse of being insane.[/QUOTE
Stark has at least a dozen different mental and emotional issues that would see him attend therapy for decades if anyone can force him to do it and I've seen some speculation that Reed may be autistic to a degree, so certain social things may be more difficult for him to grasp.
Genosha
Usually hyphenated
Probably better hyphenated
I don't think you capitalized x-gene previously.
I suppose that works as an explanation.
There are many problems in Marvel that can be solved by firing specific items or people into deep space at speeds that take them over the cosmological event horizon.
Come to think of it, Marvel's probably worse, when it comes to not applying technology to the society. Stark and Richards don't even have the excuse of being insane.
I'm pretty sure Sabertooth would take the money and show up anyway. He's a sociopath that hates being told what to do if you really don't want him there you should make someplace else more interesting for him to be.
Real-life concept: the distance at which the universe expands so fast that you can never again interact with the object in question, because the distance between you and it grows at faster than lightspeed.Is "cosmological event horizon" a thing in Marvel I'm unaware of?
Thank you, corrected.Genosha
Usually hyphenated
Probably better hyphenated
I don't think you capitalized x-gene previously.
Since you don't want to catch any pre-emptive weapons fire. I mean, I don't know if Grayven's weapons could fire through a Boom Tube, or if they'd take that chance, but safer not to leave the possibility open.1st January 2013
21:34 GMT
"-'m not obliged to defend you from whoever's coming through."
I move to reposition myself so that I'm nearly between them and the opening boom tube.
Yeah, flank ambushes are so easy to perform when you can basically teleport."Tick tock."
Their ships move, aligning their upper surfaces with the aperture to give as many of their guns as possible an angle on the potential attacker. Of course, any rapid attack would have the ships coming through immediately to maximise their impact and it's been at least twenty seconds now, meaning that-
Pity ship-based combat doesn't allow for Sneak Attack damage. But the lower defensive value of their underbellies makes up for it.BOOM!
-they're actually going to come in from the other side and the first-
Cheeky dickwaffles.Two ships of the Grayven-aligned Ascendants come through and open fire on the underside of the closest Reach vessel.
-was just to get their attention.
I doubt Grayven would allow any but his flagship to have the really big guns, after all. And it's good sense to make sure that new allies with uncertain loyalties can't inflict too much damage on you if they rebel...These ships are a size up from the Ascendants' cruisers, and much like the Absolute Dominion come with a fixed prow weapon. Just a blaster rather than a hyper blaster, but it's a rather large blaster hitting what appears to be the Reach's weaker armour.
"Orange Lantern Illustres to Grayven aligned Ascendancy ships-."
...I respect their decision, but since it's a stupid-ass decision, I choose to ignore it. We readers may as well keep calling them Ascendants. ...'New Ascendants'? Nah, doesn't really sound right. New Godlings?"The Ascendancy was Sparta's failed attempt to lead us. We are New Gods."
Oh that's going to be confusing.
Somehow, I don't think they really care. Outside of 'Are you with the Reach? No? Then leave us be.'"Why are you in this system?"
"Escorting damaged… Athyns-aligned New God ships back. They asked me to-"
The pleasant feeling of watching two enemies fighting each other and knowing you can kick the winner's arses.The Reach ships are frantically rotating in a way which momentarily makes me hope that their inertial compensators are up to scratch. Then I remember that they're Reach and I go back to neutral.
"-intern the ships you're shooting."
The Reach ships not dealing well with the unexpected. I guess they took a little more damage than they let on...Their prow guns fire again, and that's one Reach cruiser that isn't going home. Secondary weapons are shooting at the other Reach ships who are only just getting their weapons into position.
"We would crush you."
Oh, he sounds a pleasant fellow..."Oh, they haven't surrendered yet. Feel free to keep shooting."
"I have no need of your permission!"
Yeah, I think the Ascendant captain is sick of talking to him."If you keep doing what I want, why should I-"
Each ship points-
How predictable. Pity they don't have any real surprises in terms of combat capabilities, really.I raise a construct barrier.
-a turret in my direction and fires, blaster bolts biting into my barrier.
Ah, the old 'check your backstop' lesson, eh?
Would have been amusing if they'd kept shooting for a half-second, and learnt a lesson about crossing fields of fire...I fly fast as my barrier fails, moving so that one ship blocks the other and then a moment later so that one of the other turrets blocks its neighbour.
"So other than killing the-"
A pertinent question. No doubt Bug Gray has intentions for the former Karrakanians.Whose fire has intensified as their ships complete their manoeuvring, but stutters as the prow blasters fire again and slag a portion of the dorsal guns on two of them.
"-Reach, what brings you here?"
Yeah, about what was expected. Can't leave any part of a people unconquered. That just encourages rebelliousness."Reunifying our people under Grayven's leadership."
No exactly a surprise, but it does add to the…
At least they can agree on that much."So where's the rest of the fleet?"
"And also killing the Reach."
We know why: His Godhead won't allow it. To not attempt to conquer a rival would weaken him.TheAscendants'New God's ships seem to be in good condition, though now the Reach's shots are hitting their shields. It takes a couple of volleys before they get their coordination down enough to actually get anything through, and even then the New God armour doesn't seem to be having much trouble holding firm.
"I don't suppose that Grayven gave you any idea why he refused my offer of cooperation? N.E.M.O. is perfectly happy for him to occupy most Reach territory after the war is over, including all of the really heavily industrialised parts. We just want the outer parts. And that's only so their inhabitants can resettle them; if they decide they'd like to be part of Grayven's kingdom later we're fine with that."
Understanding isn't that necessary to stopping him. Outside of making sense of some peculiar tactical decisions...
Ah, literal gunboat diplomacy. Even cheekier when they're not even your boats.End. Open channel to the Reach ships.
Compliance.
"Looks like you're going to lose. And that's just against these two ships."
After all, your fleet was only outgunned by how much, again?"While we-. We delay them, our comrades can destroy the rest of his fleet."
"Think it through."
They want prisoners, eh? Or are they just trying to ensure they can have trophies to bring back?Frantically manoeuvring makes one prow shot miss this time, while the other manages a upper-side hit that only destroy some of the target's guns. The Reach's shields are really only stopping the smaller turret blasters, and… It looks like the New Gods aren't even really trying to make kill shots with those. I think…
Ring, review targetting data?
Huh. Dazzling them with a lightshow. Interesting plan.Data available.
Yes, they're focusing on the sensors, trying to create enough interference with their weapons' impact on the shield that the Reach aren't able to see out as well. Not a bad approach.
That's two down. Rapidly running out of friendlies, Reach Captain..."I raise the issue because if you surrender, that might bring me in on your side. Your chance of survival goes up, while the delay to them remains the same. The only way it's worse for the Reach -and not for you personally- is if they immediately accept it and boom tube back to Grayven. And I doubt that will happen."
The prow blasters score a double hit, overwhelming the shields of another Reach ship and breaking its back. The ship's still somewhat functional, but it's out of control and its shields have failed. The New God ships turns their secondaries on it and begin chewing through what's left of the hull.
Ah, yes. That tricky bit of jurisdictional confusion.
Ah, good. Now OL gets to show off."Not as long as Minosyss doesn't join N.E.M.O."
"Then… Then we will accept internment here."
...These boys ain't too smart, are they?"Good show. New God vessels! The Reach flotilla just surrendered to Minosyss! Cease fire and withdraw!"
Secondary batteries turn in my direction.
Now for a demonstration of why a Lantern outguns nearly anything smaller than a dreadnought.
It's been a long story; had anybody ever taken him at face value with that? I can't think of a single time it was both successful and significant.I love how all of OL's posturing throughout the entire story can be paraphrased as repetitions of "I am a monster. I follow specific monstrous logic. You may use this monstrous logic to reprogram me. I am teaching you the rules of this monstrous logic. Are you listening? Message repeats."
No -> Not
destroy -> destroys
I'm not sure that anyone has even tried much less succeeded, but as you note, this is a long fic. I may have forgotten. On the other hand, it's long enough that it could have happened at some point.It's been a long story; had anybody ever taken him at face value with that? I can't think of a single time it was both successful and significant.
Thank you, corrected.
Someone knows my pain!I'm not sure that anyone has even tried much less succeeded, but as you note, this is a long fic. I may have forgotten. On the other hand, it's long enough that it could have happened at some point.
Thank you, corrected.Mr Zoat, I clicked this link to reread some parts of this story, and found that it doesn't go to the correct page anymore. It goes to page 76 of Thread Four, but the story part is on page 77.
Don't suppose the thing to do here is to use some Chain Chomps to comp off their guns?Secondary batteries turn in my direction.
"Make us!"
"I thought you might say that."
Um. He could. It would be a large and relatively slow-moving target that the ship's point defences would shred very quickly, but he certainly could.Don't suppose the thing to do here is to use some Chain Chomps to comp off their guns?
Um. He could. It would be a large and relatively slow-moving target that the ship's point defences would shred very quickly, but he certainly could.
"Resistance detected."
My Ship Is My Castle!
"Identity theft in progress. Three perfect complete."
Which is fine, because apparently that distracts them enough that they don't order more turrets to fire on me, and I can move enough to avoid the one which hit me the first time. Construct armour can deal with the point defence, which… Yes, they're getting measurably weaker as the ship master focuses on forcing me out of the ship's metaphysique and less on the gunnery.
My Castle Is Inviolable!
"Identity theft in progress. Two perfect complete."
I feel my self get pushed back a little, as I expected.
I Shall Smite-!
"Consume."