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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

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Handlewithcare said:
Robin: you've been tortured and killed continously and I did nothing to help you but now your happiness is annoying to me. Shut up.

What. An. Ass.
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He did nothing to help? We've only seen this A-GL timeline in less than 10 chapters. We know almost nothing of what he's done with him.
 
RichardWhereat said:
He did nothing to help? We've only seen this A-GL timeline in less than 10 chapters. We know almost nothing of what he's done with him.
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Pretty sure the first time they met was when he got taken by Krona.

Superman may have tried to help him, but it probably didn't do all that much since the scientists may have difficulty scanning the ring and taking it off would be very difficult and dangerous.
 
Blegh, so instead of just executing people they keep them in a room for the rest of their lives with no access to the outside world in any real meaningful way. Essentially killing them but prolonging their death for as long as possible. And the only way out, in fifty or so years, is to give up their employer. That is how they handle all murder?

That is not going to convince people to give up the people they work for. That is going to convince them to find a way to kill themselves in prison.

And looking up who this Audrey is, all it lists is that she was a spoiled princess more interested in partying, helped Wonder Woman take down Savage, and while she was queen a civil war broke out.
 
King of Frost said:
Blegh, so instead of just executing people they keep them in a room for the rest of their lives with no access to the outside world in any real meaningful way. Essentially killing them but prolonging their death for as long as possible. And the only way out, in fifty or so years, is to give up their employer. That is how they handle all murder?

That is not going to convince people to give up the people they work for. That is going to convince them to find a way to kill themselves in prison.

And looking up who this Audrey is, all it lists is that she was a spoiled princess more interested in partying, helped Wonder Woman take down Savage, and while she was queen a civil war broke out.
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The prisoners can think they may have a chance at escape and escaping will be easier when you aren't dead, so they would take the deal.

Audrey may have been interested in partying, but she also probably received an education in how to rule and govern, so she can actually step up and take the reins when it is necessary.

The civil war was already happening even before she was queen so it isn't actually her fault and it may have been instigated by Savage in the first place..
 
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King of Frost said:
Blegh, so instead of just executing people they keep them in a room for the rest of their lives with no access to the outside world in any real meaningful way. Essentially killing them but prolonging their death for as long as possible. And the only way out, in fifty or so years, is to give up their employer. That is how they handle all murder?

That is not going to convince people to give up the people they work for. That is going to convince them to find a way to kill themselves in prison.

And looking up who this Audrey is, all it lists is that she was a spoiled princess more interested in partying, helped Wonder Woman take down Savage, and while she was queen a civil war broke out.
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Given the provable existence of hell in DC, maybe giving prisoners a chance of not going to eternal torture is a moral thing to do?
 
BlueMangoAdea said:
Given the provable existence of hell in DC, maybe giving prisoners a chance of not going to eternal torture is a moral thing to do?
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Assuming most are smart enough to take the chance to redeem, which most aren't, even the intelligent ones like Luthor, who while he is an intelligent man is also extremely arrogant and deluded so he may think he doesn't have anything to redeem himself off.
 
Darko said:
Do you mean darkside?



Well he certainly has suffered emotionally and physically and has experience wielding a hostile power.

Also Gaul threw Savage in the sun, so even if he is able to come back it would take him billions of years to.

Considering how old Savage is, everyone, except the SI, can be considered to be his descendant and distant family member.
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That was before the SI found out that Savage can regenerate from any bit of leftover DNA on the planet.
 
Darko said:
Assuming most are smart enough to take the chance to redeem, which most aren't, even the intelligent ones like Luthor, who while he is an intelligent man is also extremely arrogant and deluded so he may think he doesn't have anything to redeem himself off.
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Who said anything about changing behavior? In a world with numerous provable afterlives for various religions, and behavior subsets, you find the one that best rewards whatever behavior you're most willing to stomach, then pick that one.
 
Galacticplumber said:
Who said anything about changing behavior? In a world with numerous provable afterlives for various religions, and behavior subsets, you find the one that best rewards whatever behavior you're most willing to stomach, then pick that one.
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Zoat did once say that behavior that would get you sent to Hell if you were Christian can get you a pat on the back from Odin if you worshiped him.

Still I don't see many of them submitting to a 'higher authority' because of their pride, especially Luthor.

Zoat is there a version of the SI that ended up on the JL: Gods and Monsters universe?
 
RichardWhereat said:
And now I know that's a thing. Thank you.
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Wait until you see the Superman vs Lex Luthor presidential campaign.

Let's just say mass evacuations to Tamaran may have happened because Canada was Ground Zero for Supermans future plans.

It gives an excellent explanation on why Nabu didn't simply seek out a host among the Atlanteans.

Said reason being that he is racist against them.

The fact that they managed to make such a well connected universe with the various pieces of animated content is truly impressive.

And let's not forget Alfred, you stupid boy!:D
 
While I'm certainly happy to see more of Ex-Slave Paul, I'm a bit confused as to how he's already working with the good guys. Wasn't he sort of considered a supervillain, albeit an unwilling one, because he kept having to attack Green Lanterns in order to charge his Anti-Green Power Ring?
 
Wheenesss said:
While I'm certainly happy to see more of Ex-Slave Paul, I'm a bit confused as to how he's already working with the good guys. Wasn't he sort of considered a supervillain, albeit an unwilling one, because he kept having to attack Green Lanterns in order to charge his Anti-Green Power Ring?
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He seemed to come to an agreement with the League to help them until Superman came back and before Krona took him he was talking to Dick about League membership and why he woudln't be a good fit because he would keep on killing people.

Now it has been ten days since he was taken so he may have made contact with them again and now he doesn't need to kill people because the ring is making him.

He may still kill the worst ones, but not all criminals he meets.

He may not be a member of the League, but is just Kaznia's superhero who is working with the League on finding out who tried to kill Queen Audrey.
 
Darko said:
Darkseid was killed by Highfather in that universe.

It was one of the few instances where I think they showed him get the upper hand on Darkseid and showed why he is his equal aside from the battle they had in the n52 comics.
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Did Highfather die?

There is this whole thing about Orion being the one who is supposed to kill Darkseid unless he doesn't exist there.
 
Pinklestia said:
Did Highfather die?

There is this whole thing about Orion being the one who is supposed to kill Darkseid unless he doesn't exist there.
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No, Highfather is alive.

Orion was raised by Darkseid in that universe and actually turned out to be pretty okay.

He was arranged to marry Bekka, who fell for him, but it was a ploy by Highfather to kill Darkseid.

During the fighting Orion was killed and Bekka left feeling betrayed.

The universe also has a good version of Lex Luthor who may have taken Metron's place if the chair and his quest for knowledge is any indication.
 
Lupercal said:
On the other hand Paul is bi and probably wouldn't mind being the honey in the middle.
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I'm sure Paul will be whatever his sexual partners will want him to be.

I mean after all he is a considerate lover. Just ask his Eros counterpart and the Eros version of Holly.

Zoat is paragon going to meet Power Girl anytime in your story?
 
Darko said:
Zoat is paragon going to meet Power Girl anytime in your story?
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He's already met her. Power Girl in Young Justice is that one daughter of Zeus who went with them when they visited Themyscira.

Is what I thought, but actually clicking on the link I based this comment on marks her as Wonder Girl with no mention of Power Girl anywhere in the page.

Which is weird, since just googling it the google link specifically says she's Power Girl.
 
King of Frost said:
He's already met her. Power Girl in Young Justice is that one daughter of Zeus who went with them when they visited Themyscira.

Is what I thought, but actually clicking on the link I based this comment on marks her as Wonder Girl with no mention of Power Girl anywhere in the page.

Which is weird, since just googling it the google link specifically says she's Power Girl.
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Power girl is adult Kara most of the time.
 
Darko said:
If you mean Cassie Sandsmark then no, she was Wonder Girl in the comics.
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Chaoswind said:
Power girl is adult Kara most of the time.
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I know, but I don't keep up with every alternate universe and I haven't seen Young Justice so I googled who it was in the show and got this.
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That is very misleading but I corrected my post right away.
 
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