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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

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Chojin Patriarch said:
I rather think the whole day has been rather stressful for them. So a strange alien flying around and shooting rays broader than their largest building and then haranguing them is probably going to be just a bit overwhelming.

Ah, Jade. Always putting in the real work while the glory hounds take the spotlight.


Do you really want her to suffer from having to talk to OL?


Or merely a lack of supplies to maintain more advanced weapons. Guns aren't much use when you've spent all your powder shooting. Except maybe as a long stick with a pointy bit attached by fixing bayonets.


Honestly, you're not that different to the locals... Different shade of skin, less facial lines...


Well, that's the tone of someone's who's seen all the shit and has no fucks to give.


Three people is hardly an invasion, after all.


...I take it that was the target of Orion's little demonstration earlier. From the sound of it, they won't be missed.


Ah. I expect most smaller communities are in similar condition...


If OL is involved, it'll likely take all of five minutes of flying around collecting warlords and giving them a stern talking to...


...Oooh, awkward.


Now, that pause sounded bad, but don't worry, it's not nearly as terrible as you're thinking...


Now, if he had his way, things would be a bit more quiet...


But it's a very quick solution. As long as you're sure about the person you're giving the guns to.


And more than a few of the great Hellenic philosophers were part-time soldiers, Socrates amongst them.


Well, whatever help you can provide...


Why can't it be both? After all, I doubt the Blood is that potent that a single small amount could enrage an entire world... But a little push in the right place...


...Razer's wife. Well, small universe, isn't it? :p


Jurisdictional issues. Very frustrating for those who wanted to help.


Red tape. Sounds kind of appropriate in this situation, doesn't it?


For all we know, the Volkergians evolved with much shorter tempers because of the Blood's presence.


A natural concern. Let's hope it's the latter (though Canon is on their side here.)


...Oh, right. Running away from the fist of an angry New God.


At least this little tragedy can be prevented.


...Boy's got a hell of a set of pipes on him, doesn't he? :confused:


"You run right along, sweetie. Puppy here's just about run out of steam."


...Not that she can do much to stop him if he starts any trouble. At least, anything non-lethal.


Hopefully without any casualties on either side.

Huh. Well, that's Razer's entire reason to get a Red Ring defused in the space of a couple of minutes. I assume the gathered army would have busted in, committed a few atrocities and been long gone by the time their militia returned. ;) And I doubt OL would like to leave things unfinished around here if he starts sorting matters out. So Volkreg is about to become just a bit calmer.
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I don't think this is Razor's world.

His people are just blue humans with white hair. And Zoat described these people as having triangular eye protrusions.

Also Razor should already have his ring at this point in the timeline and be with the rest of the Red Lanterns as they ready for their attack on Oa.... Which will probably be successful given LePaul short circuited Hal's big trip and messed up the creation of the Blue Lantern corps.
 
Vaermina said:
I don't think this is Razor's world.

His people are just blue humans with white hair. And Zoat described these people as having triangular eye protrusions.

Also Razor should already have his ring at this point in the timeline and be with the rest of the Red Lanterns as they ready for their attack on Oa.... Which will probably be successful given LePaul short circuited Hal's big trip and messed up the creation of the Blue Lantern corps.
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This is literally the same world that was shown to be Razer's homeworld in Green Lantern: TAS‎ and Ilana is the name of Razer's wife.
 
Vaermina said:
I don't think this is Razor's world.

His people are just blue humans with white hair. And Zoat described these people as having triangular eye protrusions.

Also Razor should already have his ring at this point in the timeline and be with the rest of the Red Lanterns as they ready for their attack on Oa.... Which will probably be successful given LePaul short circuited Hal's big trip and messed up the creation of the Blue Lantern corps.
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Responding to Vaermina.

That was one of the ex-Lanterns of the sector, not the planetary natives.
 
Mr Zoat said:
no wisdom that could fix this, beyond 'give a good person the biggest guns', and I doubt-."

"That is no solution."

"It's a temporary solution, because the wisest philosopher in the universe isn't much use if he's already been stabbed to death with a spear wielded by a practical philosopher.
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If the universe has proven anything to be true, it is that there is nothing more permanent than a temporary solution.
I fully support OL's logic!
 
Mr Zoat said:
"As you wish." Armour, private channel. "Jade, keep an eye on him please."

"I can watch him."
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Getting total Data/Worf vibes. I suppose Orion could sub in for Dex Starr.

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Chojin Patriarch said:
Three people is hardly an invasion, after all.
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It's not about quantity but quality.

And two of them are high-quality invaders.

Chojin Patriarch said:
Not that she can do much to stop him if he starts any trouble. At least, anything non-lethal.
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I don't know.

In the JL cartoon a few supervillains managed to deal with him.

Granted Zoat may not nerf him like that.

Though if he underestimates her then he may be screwed.

Ngamer11 said:
So she doesn't cause emotionally repressed men to strongly desire her, while simultaneously forcing her to want them at the same time? If not, what is his wife the New God of?
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She might still be a live goddess and have similar powers that make men desire her, but lacks the compulsion that makes her desire them.
 
The typical New God in the comics is little better than a human, barring post flashpoint and everyone knows that doesn't count.

Orion however is not a typical New God, in power level he's up there with Superman.

Unless Zoat has nerfed him and from the comment about having superior firepower to a ring I don't think he did, he didn't even need to come down to the planet to express his anger.

He could have just decided whose faces he doesn't like from orbit and then its orbital bombardment time.
 
Ngamer11 said:
Paul respects Jade. Orion would she her as but another Bug or Lowly.
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For about five minutes.

At which point he would see she isn't like he did in Canon with Rocket.


Ngamer11 said:
This is literally the same world that was shown to be Razer's homeworld in Green Lantern: TAS‎ and Ilana is the name of Razer's wife.
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I repeat the second part of what I said, that should have already happened.

Remember, Razer was with the Red Lanterns for years before his encounter with Hal.
 
Mr Zoat said:
True, but -occasional attitude and temperament issues aside- he's a good guy, and doesn't habitually bombard places from orbit.
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I'd give him the benefit of the doubt that he has enough control over the Astro-force that he can just zap who he wants to zap rather than leaving glass craters everywhere.

I wasn't suggesting he casually engages in mass murder, just that he can express his anger from long range.

The only mass murder I'm aware of him doing was up close and personal. Well there was that alien fleet but he was possessed by DeSaad so I'm not counting that.

A comic showed what happened when Orion went to the surface of New Genesis to give Forager to his people.

The Bugs are cannibals- waste not, want not.

Orion was very very offended. So I imagine the surviving Bugs ate well that day.
 
I just remembered something from earlier in the story. New Gods are supposed to be able to use non-green power rings without going nuts. Divine nature and all that.
 
Chojin Patriarch said:
Huh. Well, that's Razer's entire reason to get a Red Ring defused in the space of a couple of minutes. I assume the gathered army would have busted in, committed a few atrocities and been long gone by the time their militia returned. ;)
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The interesting bit here is if Atrocitius hews more to comics canon (where he was a Noble Demon with a justified cause for his fury and, over time, was eventually evolving into anti-heroism before he got killed off because we can't have nice things - and is probably still stuck on Ysmalt with the other Inversions right now) or GL:TAS canon (where he was a Complete Monster and the entire invasion of this city was for the purpose of acquiring Razer as a Red Lantern - in which case he'll probably be shortly turning up even more angry than usual by his plot getting foiled)...
 
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The interesting bit here is if Atrocitius hews more to comics canon (where he was a Noble Demon with a justified cause for his fury and, over time, was eventually evolving into anti-heroism before he got killed off because we can't have nice things - and is probably still stuck on Ysmalt with the other Inversions right now) or GL:TAS canon (where he was a Complete Monster and the entire invasion of this city was for the purpose of acquiring Razer as a Red Lantern - in which case he'll probably be shortly turning up even more angry than usual by his plot getting foiled)...
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GL:TAS canon is Young Justice canon.
 
I think it was once mentioned that Atrocious will show up in year 6 of this story.

Right now he may still be a prisoner, or has just started forging his rings.

Things in this fic will probably not align with what happened in the GL cartoon.

This could be because that piece of media and YJ are adjacent to each other, which means that while they share similarities and histories, they do not align all of the way there and there are differences.

Plus Zoat may not use that since he doesn't seem interested in using material from season 3 and 4.
 
Stsword said:
I'd give him the benefit of the doubt that he has enough control over the Astro-force that he can just zap who he wants to zap rather than leaving glass craters everywhere.

I wasn't suggesting he casually engages in mass murder, just that he can express his anger from long range.
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I wonder if that even is possible for him.

Orion is the god of glorious war, so honorable conduct may be part of his purview.

Sniping someone may not be viewed as all that honorable, so he may not be that capable in that regard.
 
Butcher's Blood (part 8)
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    The soldiers that Orion chased off are still within sight of the top of the wall. Being able to fly makes spotting them even more trivial. They've gotten into good marching order, though it's clear that they're despondent.

    "When did the ash clouds form?"

    "The c-. That's… Ash? Did someone burn an entire forest?"

    "No, someone used a nuke-. A very large bomb on a very large volcano. The ash will actually be very good for the soil just as soon as it settles."

    "It was… A quarter of a year ago, when we first saw it. We should be well into the growing season now, but as you can see, our farms are producing little. The cloud came from the west, and cities in that direction will have it far worse."

    "Do you have enough food to sustain your population?"

    "Will you break apart the clouds today?"

    "Yes."

    "Then we should still be able to grow enough. It will be close, and we will be hungry, but we will survive. The other cities do not know that you are here, and they are desperate."

    "So they take food from their neighbours in their desperation. But that doesn't explain how it started, or who the heck thought that nuking a supervolcano was a good idea."

    "We don't have any special way to send messages to other cities other than sending a messenger. Our Kar had a satellite communicator, but it was destroyed in a drone missile attack several weeks ago. Our city is… Self sufficient, so there were few traders to pass along general news."

    "Okay, I-."

    Ah.

    I generate a miniature construct image of the militia soldiers I just spotted.

    "Are they yours?"

    "Yes, yes, that's them. Please, if they-."

    The world around us flickers, and my construct barrier goes up in time to stop the first barrage of crossbow bolts from the irregulars camouflaged against the rocks hillside.

    "Good effort, but that won't be necessary. The people attempting to invade-" A crossbow bolt hits the part of my barrier closest to my face, and I respond by giving the one who fired it a hard look. He conceals the crossbow in his cloak without looking even slightly guilty. Or nervous. "-are leaving, and my colleague Orion and I are going to try to normalise the situation. I would ask that you please return to your homes in order to avoid unnecessary deaths."

    I deposit Ilana on the ground near to the closest militia squad, then generate a giant arrow construct near to the retreating invaders and wiggle it for emphasis. They take the hint and accelerate to a quick march.

    "Ilana, who is that?"

    "A Lantern, who can clear the sky."

    "That won't dissuade people who are already starving." The man gives me an extremely sceptical glance. "And I doubt that they would do that without wanting something in return."

    I transition down to float a short distance from him, his hands immediately going for knives under his cloak before he restrains himself.

    "Someone made an ash cloud like this on my homeworld a couple of years ago. I caught it in the early stages and shut it down, but it was still pretty worrying at the time. Dispersed like this, it's more time consuming than anything else."

    He considers me for a moment. "I thought that Green Lantern Liana was assigned to this part of the universe."

    "She was. She got fired. I'm here for something else."

    Ilana nods. "He thinks that there is something on Volkreg that is driving people mad with anger."

    "People do not need to be driven mad to fight each other."

    "No, but it can help. Hopefully, when the sun reappears the various cities will need to move their fighting age men into the fields to take advantage of it, but I'd rather deal with the source of the most recent outbreak of conflict."

    "And then?"

    "I will search for what I came here for and then leave. I'm not sure what your experience with off world merchants is, but outside of some interesting and novel food plants there's nothing else it's worth me taking from here. And it costs me next to nothing to wait until you've had a couple of good harvests."

    "Then why are you talking to us?"

    "I need someone more familiar with local custom than me to help me deal with people. Lantern Liana sent me some information, but that's nothing like actually living the culture. And if what I suspect is correct, the people responsible for the ash cloud might not be entirely responsible for their own actions."

    "That would be extremely convenient."

    He sounds extremely sceptical.

    "Only if I can fix it. Which I can't guarantee. But I should get back to your city before Orion-."

    "What about the cloud?"

    "Someone's firing nuclear weapons at supervolcanoes. I don't know about your species' superstitions, but that sounds like a very bad thing. Particularly given that whoever did it probably has geophysics scans telling them where the other three are."

    "Nuclear…" He doesn't frown, but the skin around his eyes wrinkles slightly. "I've heard of those. They're made with dense metal."

    "That's the one. The difficult part is refining the metal to a high enough purity without the radiation melting you. Calculating the compression explosion is difficult, but a really good mathematician from your civilisation could probably manage it."

    "It is more likely that they bought it." He grimaces. "Only an idiot or a monster would starve the whole world to win a war."

    "Could be. I'll start by asking in the city closest to the blast. Excuse us-."

    His eyes dart to Ilana, and she responds with the local confirmation gesture. He draws himself up slightly. "Then I will accompany you as well."

    "The more the merrier. Will your militia adopt a more defensive posture?"

    "I will.. speak to the appropriate people."

    "Good show. Wave upwards when you're done."

    "And what will you be doing?"

    "Announcing my presence by removing all of the ash right away seems like a bad idea. But removing the clouds over your people's territory is something I can do right away as we're a long way from the source. And it might persuade your neighbours to look to their ploughshares instead of their swords. Excuse me."

    I transition upwards and… The cloud is a cloud, the ash spread out enough that the inside is faint grey rather than lightless black. Unlike ash fresh out of the volcano it isn't hot, though the electrical charge is very much still present.

    Right. One giant filter construct coming up.
     
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