General World of Darkness Discussion Thread QQ Edition

[shadowdice]

Has anyone played the new VTM deck builder? I've considered playing it despite one of the artists having a style with clashes with all the others to the point of being Garish (the one who makes everything in a super "paint" style with extreme colors and horrific proportions) due to being one of the guys who made art for V5 since it came out

 

[shadowdice]

The Chicago books really had a lot of plot threads that never got followed up on for VTM

Such as Yaryan a Native American brujah that started his own bloodline (though he might have become a caitiff) and developing a new discipline related to the umbra

V5 is kind of egregious in that as they made multiple new Native American vampires including a caitiff that might be a methuselah and another that was a werewolf kinfolk

Lodin's kid Lorraine seems to have been cut out along with most caitiff that weren't Maldavis (who I never really cared about)

As a concept Yaryan has a lot of possible stories to go with as it is the development of a "modern" bloodline and the likelihood of him still having a hateboner on Helena for genociding the Native Americans along with wherever his sire is in torpor on top of the menele plotline (though he also lowkey hates him as well for involving the americas in that blood feud)


Helena and Melene are one of the points where I tend to retcon things because of the mess of Greek mythology involved and WoD drastically changing their relationship or have it be that Those Aren't Their Names

I ran a VTM game where I went "yeah I am ignoring the books, this is just Meneleus and Helen of Sparta. She gets pissed off if you call
her Trojan and can and will break your spine over her knee. They disagreed on the destruction of Carthage."

 

[Konradleijon]

'Bloodlines 3 [Will be] Done by Someone Else:' Paradox Responds to Future of Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines After Sequel Debacle [Update] - IGN

Paradox Interactive opened up about the future of Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines in an unusually frank interview, calling Bloodlines a "dead end" and saying that any potential Bloodlines 2 will have to be made by "someone else" regardless of whether or not Bloodlines 2 is a success.

www.ign.com

Welp looks like they are down with WOD after Bloodlines 2

 

[Skitzyfrenic]

Typical IGN reporting can't even keep 2 and 3 separate or in a sensible way.

 

[shadowdice]

It is somewhat old news but I feel like the key problem is that the entire development cycle seems to have been a shit show with everything going on with the writers (having people there in name but kept out of doing stuff) and later making an entirely different game with a new studio that Doesn't Do RPGS either

Paradox also has well, a track record when it comes to games

It is incredibly strange that the people who make Crusader Kings didn't use the Dark Ages Crusades storyline for a game. Modders outright made a VTM game out of CK3

 

[AMARDA]

It is somewhat old news but I feel like the key problem is that the entire development cycle seems to have been a shit show with everything going on with the writers (having people there in name but kept out of doing stuff) and later making an entirely different game with a new studio that Doesn't Do RPGS either

Paradox also has well, a track record when it comes to games

It is incredibly strange that the people who make Crusader Kings didn't use the Dark Ages Crusades storyline for a game. Modders outright made a VTM game out of CK3

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Part of the problem is that Paradox tried to spread out of the niche content, to try and do more then what they were known for.

It failed badly, for a variety of reasons. This has lead them to a retrenchment in terms of what they are focusing on.

 

[gereh]

It is incredibly strange that the people who make Crusader Kings didn't use the Dark Ages Crusades storyline for a game. Modders outright made a VTM game out of CK3

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I assume their "analyst" said that it's not worth it, as in not enough people would buy a game like that to make it worth having the team work on something like that, as in their time would be better spend making next DLC for CK3. Which makes sense form business standpoint.

 

[Konradleijon]

Part of the problem is that Paradox tried to spread out of the niche content, to try and do more then what they were known for.

It failed badly, for a variety of reasons. This has lead them to a retrenchment in terms of what they are focusing on.

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What do you mean by spread out niche content?

Had too many releases of niche content

 

[AlphaWolf112480]

Chronicles of Darkness ROB
Mortals and Lesser Templates. you can choose 2-3 Templates to stack.
Which ones would you go for

 

[Shadow72]

Thaumathurge, Atryia (Or How You Spell it) and Psychic Vampire.

 

[AMARDA]

What do you mean by spread out niche content?

Had too many releases of niche content

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I mean, they tried to grow their brand beyond the EU4/CK3/HoI4/Stellaris 4x style games. They wanted to get into things like RPGs and other forms of games, outside what their core competency is. It was a failure though, so they have done a retrenchment back into said core parts of their business.