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Governor's Gambit - Star Wars SI into Imperial Governor

That is the point though. These fighters are meant to interdict star fighters. The rounds in the guns can be adjusted for the type of targets they are going after. Or if they are going after capital type ships they can focus on a missile boat concept akin to the F35 and its drone buddies. Basically go into a system with a slave linked pod that is directed by the fighter to launch missiles at capital ship targets if needed. They aren't meant to dogfight. They are meant to missile spam. Wedge did something similar to this taking down Lusankya with freights and slaved proton torpedo launchers. They can do the same with concussive missiles and proton launchers on a smaller scale. These are meant for anti piracy missions not for capital ship engagments though.

The ability to interdict lighter warships like corvettes is still a very useful ability for such a mass produced craft like the standard Tie fighter. And they don't even use that much gas when firing, because their guns are small and designed to shoot at close range. A static AA turret needs to basically spew out enough fire to make it a statistical certainty that they hit the target with all the dodging it will be doing, so far more shots at longer range for fewer kills. Or in other words it is a military utility to have the standard Tie use energy weapons.

Now if you were talking about a railgun armed interceptor model then that would be something else. Unlike the standard Tie (which is a multi-role craft) an Interceptor is a dedicated anti-star fighter/bomber craft. There, such cost saving measures such as railguns would make sense because it's not meant to kill anything larger then a bomber. A Tie fighter on the other hand has a veritable laundry list of different and at times completely opposing mission profiles it needs to achieve from CAS for imperial ground forces all the way to system patrols, assaulting lighter warships, and even bomber interception missions, as such it needs the weapons to be able to do all of that.
 
That is the point though. These fighters are meant to interdict star fighters. The rounds in the guns can be adjusted for the type of targets they are going after. Or if they are going after capital type ships they can focus on a missile boat concept akin to the F35 and its drone buddies. Basically go into a system with a slave linked pod that is directed by the fighter to launch missiles at capital ship targets if needed. They aren't meant to dogfight. They are meant to missile spam. Wedge did something similar to this taking down Lusankya with freights and slaved proton torpedo launchers. They can do the same with concussive missiles and proton launchers on a smaller scale. These are meant for anti piracy missions not for capital ship engagments though.
What are you even talking about with slave linked drones? I'm pretty sure those don't even exist in Star Wars at that level for starfighter support.

Besides, this is getting off topic for why the Empire likes the TIE; the lack of hyperdrives so they can't just run off and join the rebellion and promotes dependece on capital ship carriers to move around. They don't care about the lack of shields and potentially losing pilots because they have an ABUNDANCE of manpower and cheap starfighters. And why bother with those railguns on a TIE when the regular laser cannons are actually good enough firepower against other starfighters AND for choose weakpoints on larger ships up to Corvette size when the railguns are objectively worse against anything larger than a starfighter? You sound like you're more in love with the idea than you bothered to think it through.
 
The only thing I dislike about the TIE in general is the cockpit. There has got to be a better way to maximize pilot visibility without only having a few inches of glass to protect you from weapons fire.
It's worth noting that in both Legends and Disney canon, aboslutely every sensor except the mark I organic eyeball can be readily jammed. Everything from the much-lamented* exposed bridges on capital ships to the vast glass bubbles on most fighters is explained by how easy it is to jam ever flavor of sensor and the necessity of relying on your own eyes in battle. A fighter with a limited view, no matter how good in other areas, is a deathtrap.

*by vs. debaters.
 
It's worth noting that in both Legends and Disney canon, aboslutely every sensor except the mark I organic eyeball can be readily jammed. Everything from the much-lamented* exposed bridges on capital ships to the vast glass bubbles on most fighters is explained by how easy it is to jam ever flavor of sensor and the necessity of relying on your own eyes in battle. A fighter with a limited view, no matter how good in other areas, is a deathtrap.

*by vs. debaters.

They can only be jammed through electronic warfare not visual median though. What I mean by this is that EM would prevent the jamming but not a visual median with the drones themselves having a laser link to the main star fighter at all times. Those can't be jammed except by targeting those drones by lazer which destroys them anyways. The point I am making here is that those drones don't need to be all that complex. The point of the drones is to augment a missile component that can be slaved depending on the mission profile to attack targets when you come into the system. Jamming only works to prevent a link from the host to the slave and eliminates the communication between the two. But it doesn't prevent the slave unit from still having its own autonomous function. Given this is star wars and droids exist like that suicide into targets you could easily do this also with slaved units to the command unit which is ont he star fighter. Clone wars clearly shows that Vulture Fighters can and will suicide on command. So it is definitely doable to do it for a munition. And given em interference that doesn't preclude the possibility of using a visual spectrum instead. Anyways point I am making here is that a modular fighter with different mission profile with slave units is something that is easily doable and has been done in both legends EU and clone wars. I have played also Tie Fighter Xwing Xwing Alliance Tie fighter expansions etc so I am well aware about the jamming and more importantly the limitation of that jamming.
 
I'd suggest the Krogan from Mass Effect, but with a Catachan flavor. In Mass Effect they already grew up on a Death World, so it would be largely the same here. A Warrior culture with ritualistic hunting practices and honor duels, similar to the Trandoshans but with more of an emphasis on fighting each other rather than hunting down other creatures. Their cuisine stands out because, due to the many poisonous plants native to the jungles of their world, much of it is mildly poisonous to the average person. And don't get me STARTED on their alcohol.

Despite their warrior traditions however, it's actually the females who largely rule them. The men are taught to fight, but the women make sure they SURVIVE. There also happens to be a significant gender disparity, 1 female for 10 males, which makes growing their population difficult even if they were off planet.

I could go on, but you get the gist. Honestly, the races from Mass Effect are some of my favorites.
I'd actually like to add onto and change a lot of my earlier recommendation after further thought in greater depth. I've had time to REALLY expand.

Firstly, something to make the jungle world more unique. It looks like a Kashykk style forest planet from a distance, but a closer look reveals something much more interesting; the planet is surrounded by a massive, planet spanning series of roots, with foliage and other trees growing out from them, all starting from a singular MASSIVE tree roughly the size of Nevada. Does anyone remember that episode of The Last Airbender taking place in the swamp? Where all the trees basically were an extension of the largest tree in the center? Like that but on a planetary scale. The primary tree is also at least semi-sentient, somewhat akin to Eywa from the sci-fi Avatar film.

There is something else of interest about the biosphere; there's basically a constant presence of pollen spores in the atmosphere, apparently created by the primary tree. This stuff acts like a wonder pollen when it makes contact with other plants, causing rapid and explosive growth and fertility. Something that would take months to grow would reach full maturity with a bursting harvest in roughly a week. It also caused truly dead flora to rapidly decompose into compost.

As for the main inhabitants, they are still reptilian. Though rather than Krogan they would be more akin to the Argonians of Elder Scrolls. They are still very warrior inclined.... but VERY much not in the Mandalorian vein. They consider the idea of a fair and upright fight insane and insulting. They favor hit and run tactics, ambushes, stealth, crippling the enemy before they fight and everything else. This is even shown in their honor duels, they DON'T duel somewhere out in the open where everyone sees them, they wait for the bell end basically enter opposite sides of a dense section of foliage and trees, turning it into a vicious combination of hide & seek and first blood gladiatorial combat, with the winner being the one to come back uninjured.

This line of thinking makes much more sense when you find out about the predators on world. Fighting them solo and head on is basically suicidal, with many of them being venomous enough that a glancing hit would be lethal.

And further down below, in the deeper sections of the trees, you find the OTHER dominant life on the world; 40K ORKS!!! The pollen spores from up above come down below the surface, away from sunlight and in a very humid environment, where they gradually clump together to form the Greenskins. Extremely violent, terrifyingly strong and resilient and constantly wandering below, the top dwellers leave them alone to keep the other predators busy. But sometimes one of them is smart and vicious enough to lead an invading force to the treetops above. This is one of the reasons the Gee'Shaw (the Green Scaled, basically their race name) don't really wage war against each other with total intensity, they need everyone available to turn back such a tide.

For cuisine, they are primarily vegetarian by necessity. Meat isn't exactly rare, but something of a luxury, with much of their diet composed of agricultural products. Beyond harvesting foodstuffs in the wild, they also have some agriculture set up. Though, rather than soil like we use, they have large sections of treetops loaded to the brim with mulched and decomposed vegetation serving as basic soil and potent fertilizer. That said, their agricultural methods are basic due to the pollen in the atmosphere DRAMATICALLY cutting down on time needed. They've never really needed to develop their agricultural system in depth.

What really stands out is their alcohol. The most basic is essentially tree sap that has been extracted, exposed to sunlight until solidifying, they ground down into a form of sugar and fermented. This is their SAFEST alcohol, but the hardcore stuff is distilled from the poisonous parts of animals and plants. They naturally have VERY robust and resilient immune systems and filtration systems, making them almost impossible to poison.

They also have Force users, though they are exclusively female for some reason and appear to have a form of albinism. These women are then raised and trained as shamans, the spiritual leaders of their society who wield significant political influence due to their ability to commune with Gee'Aran (Green Mother, their deity and the name for the massive tree that covers the planet).

As for its natural resources.... it basically has its own form of bacta. Large, hollowed out sections of trees and roots where the sap flows and great quantities of spores are introduced to it. The final product feels like slightly thickened water to the touch, looking transparently golden and seeming to shimmer under light. It isn't AS effective as actual bacta, more akin to the Kolto of Manaan, and is very plentiful and naturally self replenishing.
 
So basically super Neti (i believe that's what their species was called in starwars)
Kinda, yeah. It's......... not exactly talkative, mostly because it just processes time and stimuli very differently from other creatures. The closest it gets to communicating with others is by gifting visions to its shamans, though even that may not actually be intentional on its part.
 
So,is it simply a crossposting or is ther/will ther be a difference between the QQ and SB version of this fic ?,great fic by the way very fun and interesting.
 
I am not bothering to cross post my omakes and those posting elsewhere are not doing so it appears. So those are going to be different between the sites until the author decides to cross post, with notes about the original Omake writers. Otherwise someone would complain, there is always someone.
 
@Freefaller I don't know if people have mentioned this before but I have seen old artwork of tie bombers with the bomb bay removed and with a small living quarters installed instead. If you're accepting recommendations then I would say build a module system with the tie platform and tie parts. In other words build a really cheap module ship that I can get you from point A to point B within the system. And if you use the tie platform then it will be cheap cheap cheap all around.
 
@Freefaller I don't know if people have mentioned this before but I have seen old artwork of tie bombers with the bomb bay removed and with a small living quarters installed instead. If you're accepting recommendations then I would say build a module system with the tie platform and tie parts. In other words build a really cheap module ship that I can get you from point A to point B within the system. And if you use the tie platform then it will be cheap cheap cheap all around.

kinda sounds like some of the small craft from star citizen
 
star citizen has alot of tiny 1man ships with beds, cargo holds/external containers, and the ship designs are best for in system jobs.
 
Oh definitely, I defo agree with you on this. What I'm disagree on is immediately linking this to psychopathy.

As much as we human think ourselves as cultured, learned people who get over our base instinct. The truth is, it is very easy for us to simply dehumanize or to shut off our thoughts about a STAGGERING amount of violence. Current ukraine war, Myanmar's civil war, ongoing child labor and cheap labor exploitation of third world country.

I'm not saying our mc is correct. Opposite of that, as a governor he absolutely should try to fix this problem, a problem that sadly permeates the entire Empire. But if someone ignores the death and torture, it's less psychopathy and more indifference, something sadly also abundant in our lives.

The most direct evidence to this is well, liveleak and car/train crashes footage. People flocks to those thing and it would be certainly wrong to label every viewers a psychopath bcs they enjoy... well y'all know what kind of content on liveleak.

OK, I thought about it for a bit, and I think I figured out why I am seeing this differently from so many people. I may be responding to this more strongly because I am originally from Eastern Europe, a lot of my family died during WW2, and we constantly had lessons in school on the horrid things that were done by the Nazis.

I think what most people are forgetting or ignoring is the fact that the Empire was specifically set up to be equivalent to the Nazi Germany. It's not just an evil autocratic government, but a full-on fascist state, with all that this entails. Including the equivalent of the SS torturing prisoners, which is what is happening here. The Rebellion is fighting not just to restore a political system - there are real concrete effects to the Imperial rule and occupation, complete with genocide, slavery, a police state, lack of liberty, legal torture, assassinations, etc.

The MC built a small oasis of normalcy in what is supposed to be a hellish universe, but in many ways it only hides what is happening underneath. I am not saying that he should join the rebellion immediately or start planning to assassinate Vader, but he just had his nose rubbed in the torture part of the situation. Unlike the common man on the street, he is in charge and is participating in it semi-actively. A lack of a reaction to this is ... telling. At the very least he should be privately disquieted and horrified, since this should be the first time he encountered such a situation.

You know what they say about nine people sitting at a table with a Nazi, right? ... The same thing applies here IMHO. (Although I've searched for the origin of that "saying" and I am not sure what its origin is or how common it really is, but IMHO the idea does apply here.)

Also, again, my mention of psychopathy was a bit facetious because I think the author forgot about this angle and I wanted to underline the peculiarity of the situation.
 
You know Las could go for the Mass Effect Terminus armory for an updated armor for the stormtroopers. Always liked how that armor looks and I think it would fit in with the setting of star wars.
 
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OK, I thought about it for a bit, and I think I figured out why I am seeing this differently from so many people. I may be responding to this more strongly because I am originally from Eastern Europe, a lot of my family died during WW2, and we constantly had lessons in school on the horrid things that were done by the Nazis.

I think what most people are forgetting or ignoring is the fact that the Empire was specifically set up to be equivalent to the Nazi Germany. It's not just an evil autocratic government, but a full-on fascist state, with all that this entails. Including the equivalent of the SS torturing prisoners, which is what is happening here. The Rebellion is fighting not just to restore a political system - there are real concrete effects to the Imperial rule and occupation, complete with genocide, slavery, a police state, lack of liberty, legal torture, assassinations, etc.

The MC built a small oasis of normalcy in what is supposed to be a hellish universe, but in many ways it only hides what is happening underneath. I am not saying that he should join the rebellion immediately or start planning to assassinate Vader, but he just had his nose rubbed in the torture part of the situation. Unlike the common man on the street, he is in charge and is participating in it semi-actively. A lack of a reaction to this is ... telling. At the very least he should be privately disquieted and horrified, since this should be the first time he encountered such a situation.

You know what they say about nine people sitting at a table with a Nazi, right? ... The same thing applies here IMHO. (Although I've searched for the origin of that "saying" and I am not sure what its origin is or how common it really is, but IMHO the idea does apply here.)

Also, again, my mention of psychopathy was a bit facetious because I think the author forgot about this angle and I wanted to underline the peculiarity of the situation.
I explained my reasoning and the specifics of that situation in the Chp-19 authors note at the very end, but tldr he was horrified, but too scared to say anything directly so the only thing he could think of at the moment was telling the Commander to be cleaner next time. Regardless, I enjoyed your discussion here. Seems like a trend, where the QQ thread of this story has less side stories than the SB one, but in turn has more interesting discussions. The ones over on SB are all about logistics and cost effectiveness and the like.
 
The MC built a small oasis of normalcy in what is supposed to be a hellish universe, but in many ways it only hides what is happening underneath. I am not saying that he should join the rebellion immediately or start planning to assassinate Vader, but he just had his nose rubbed in the torture part of the situation. Unlike the common man on the street, he is in charge and is participating in it semi-actively. A lack of a reaction to this is ... telling. At the very least he should be privately disquieted and horrified, since this should be the first time he encountered such a situation.
Or he has considered the situation and decided the old-fashioned way is just fine. If you look at history the "outlaw" was a man that had placed himself outside of the protection of the law. This made it legal for anyone else to do what they wanted to them and most serious crimes were felonies and felonies got the death penalty. You saw a remnant of this where only a few decades ago police officers were still allowed to kill fleeing felons even if they were unarmed.

Edit: Or he was a hunter and has experience being up to his elbows in blood and guts.
 
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Its honestly interesting as to how much one's upbringing alters their views, for example seeing as you shared, I grew up the child of an active-duty military member, to me the Empire wasn't the Nazis or the Soviet Union both long dead before my time, nor the British despite the accents, no the Empire to me growing up was America and the Imperials we saw in the movies were all members of the military, just like everyone I knew growing up. Due to the fact that they wore uniforms and vaguely acted in a disciplined manner I related more to the empire as a kid then to the heroes and rebels who I associated to the terrorists my dad had to leave to fight. Now as a grown ass adult my views obviously changed but I never had the "the Empire is pure evil kill them all" view.
 
OK, I thought about it for a bit, and I think I figured out why I am seeing this differently from so many people. I may be responding to this more strongly because I am originally from Eastern Europe, a lot of my family died during WW2, and we constantly had lessons in school on the horrid things that were done by the Nazis.

I think what most people are forgetting or ignoring is the fact that the Empire was specifically set up to be equivalent to the Nazi Germany. It's not just an evil autocratic government, but a full-on fascist state, with all that this entails. Including the equivalent of the SS torturing prisoners, which is what is happening here. The Rebellion is fighting not just to restore a political system - there are real concrete effects to the Imperial rule and occupation, complete with genocide, slavery, a police state, lack of liberty, legal torture, assassinations, etc.

The MC built a small oasis of normalcy in what is supposed to be a hellish universe, but in many ways it only hides what is happening underneath. I am not saying that he should join the rebellion immediately or start planning to assassinate Vader, but he just had his nose rubbed in the torture part of the situation. Unlike the common man on the street, he is in charge and is participating in it semi-actively. A lack of a reaction to this is ... telling. At the very least he should be privately disquieted and horrified, since this should be the first time he encountered such a situation.

You know what they say about nine people sitting at a table with a Nazi, right? ... The same thing applies here IMHO. (Although I've searched for the origin of that "saying" and I am not sure what its origin is or how common it really is, but IMHO the idea does apply here.)

Also, again, my mention of psychopathy was a bit facetious because I think the author forgot about this angle and I wanted to underline the peculiarity of the situation.

Fascinating really, I personally live under a regime that very much oppresses my family, my grand uncle died in re-education camp, my grandpa became a husk of a man coming out of it, my mother and father pretty much lives in poverty their entire lives, my mother used to do "grain run" at a local army farm, etc

I think the issue is, as much as people like to think how the empire suppose to be and etc. The actual setting of Star wars are quite malleable. Boba Fett was just some merc that suppose to die to sandworm in hilarious manner, Vader just suppose to scary black empire commander.

Then the prequel came in, shows that even the suppose "good" Republic was a rotting carcass full of neo-capitalism, space medieval and straight up human supremacy. New republic ain't even that good.

An entire galaxy is a big big thing, too vast and too wide to fully documented all the stuff going on there.

Even the Jedi and Sith portrayal change in the fanfic community, Jedi is seen as dumb rigid, almost engineering their own downfall while Sith is a more pragmatism that somehow got roped into a pyramid scheme. Despite the the official as jedi pure good, sith, pure bad.

I'm not denying that what you think of the Empire is wrong, certainly many author would portray the empire as this ultimate evil, etc

But the setting, quite popular, leave a lot for desire and demand many fanfic author fills in the gap. And at the end of the day, this is a piece of writing we read for fun. I'm sure if you ask anyone here if they think Nazi is a good thing, no one will say that, no one agree with that. And I think that extends to the author too, they're defo not trying to be a Nazi apologist or anything. Sometimes, things are not that deep.

I think in the end your definition of the empire clashes with what people perceives as what the author amends for the setting.

What I am saying is... sometimes fanfiction writing is fanfiction writing 🤷
 
Right so binged the whole thing, and if las does manage to take the lucrehulk (as a wreck or otherwise) i imagine it would likely end up as a system defense station or a mid system station for transfers and such, although depending on the conditions the commodore could insist on having it fixed as her flagship kek
 
If Las does get the lucrehulk he can fix it up or refit it into a carrier turn the cargo bays into hangers and slap as much aa or anti-fighter guns on it as he can maybe get some factory's for fighters or bombers. Or just turn it into a full on mobile shipyard.
 
If Las does get the lucrehulk he can fix it up or refit it into a carrier turn the cargo bays into hangers and slap as much aa or anti-fighter guns on it as he can maybe get some factory's for fighters or bombers. Or just turn it into a full on mobile shipyard.

Probably the shipyard route just so he can refit his larger warships in-system and doesn't need to hire a professional shipyard at great expense for the larger refits and maintenance needed for them.
 
Probably the shipyard route just so he can refit his larger warships in-system and doesn't need to hire a professional shipyard at great expense for the larger refits and maintenance needed for them.
The biggest problem is despite a lucre's size its fairly limited for an actual shipyard, and you can use framework systems to make an actual shipyard fairly quickly especially since he doesnt need a massive shipyard capable of building ships over 600 meters at least not yet, the lucrehulk being used as a transfer station directly helps enrich the system while using it as a defense station or as a warship/flagship for his little fleet directly inproves his systems security against any would be "rebels" or pirates looking to get rich off his success thus far. Further he has mentioned concerns over that pirate organisazion Crimson Dawn so it may be cheaper to use the lucrehulk as a warship or Defense station considering a lucrehulk capabilities itshould be able to challenge anything less than an Imperial Star destroyer without paying a Ruinous sum for an imperial Class, maybe supplement the Lucrehulk with a Victory I Class to support the lucrehulk and youve got a decent battleline for an outer rim backwater. Of course everything here assumes they can capture the lucrehulk in the first place. Also fun fact according to one of the old books i read due to its origins as a cargo ship Lucrehulks both refits and Clone wars Battleships can land on planets for repairs. Also Sorry for wall of text
 
you could take the coreship out and build a yard within the ring although, maybe only medium transports at most? and corvettes in the ring?
 
you could take the coreship out and build a yard within the ring although, maybe only medium transports at most? and corvettes in the ring?
You could but he can aqquire more light ships reasonabley cheaply, on the other hand aqquiring a heavy weight combatant is significantly more tricky, even the Gladiator class he got needed the moffs approval and a 16 million credit bribe to get it, but the Lucrehulk if captured would be a prize ship taken from Pirates and it Gives Las a Heavy Capital ship outside the Gladiator freeing up the Gladiator for Operations while the Lucrehulk sits and looks menacing to Rebels and Pirates in the Minda System-
Edit- might be worth looking into if Las can Purchase a few more Squadrons of V-wings or Arc 170s from imperial mothballs and maybe see about getting a cardan II Station if possible since it can build ships up to Acclamator/Acclamator II size (752 meters) and has moderate defenses
 
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The biggest problem is despite a lucre's size its fairly limited for an actual shipyard, and you can use framework systems to make an actual shipyard fairly quickly especially since he doesnt need a massive shipyard capable of building ships over 600 meters at least not yet, the lucrehulk being used as a transfer station directly helps enrich the system while using it as a defense station or as a warship/flagship for his little fleet directly inproves his systems security against any would be "rebels" or pirates looking to get rich off his success thus far. Further he has mentioned concerns over that pirate organisazion Crimson Dawn so it may be cheaper to use the lucrehulk as a warship or Defense station considering a lucrehulk capabilities itshould be able to challenge anything less than an Imperial Star destroyer without paying a Ruinous sum for an imperial Class, maybe supplement the Lucrehulk with a Victory I Class to support the lucrehulk and youve got a decent battleline for an outer rim backwater. Of course everything here assumes they can capture the lucrehulk in the first place. Also fun fact according to one of the old books i read due to its origins as a cargo ship Lucrehulks both refits and Clone wars Battleships can land on planets for repairs. Also Sorry for wall of text

At this point he doesn't want to increase his income even more so he is looking for things that seem like a decent justification to spend money on. And since the largest ship he has is a Gladiator, he doesn't really need an even bigger shipyard then that right now. Which can very easily backfire on him because it would drastically reduce costs for his defence fleet while also showing Thrawn (when he gets in contact) just how resourceful the MC is and want him on side even more.
 

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