I will become God-Harem King of the World! [Highschool DxD/Exalted] (CLOSED)

[Megaolix]

Pretty sure it's about how to convince her.

So, how much we want to tell her without directly going into the supernatural?

 

[Alexander]

Alexander, are we writing in what we what the floral display to be like or just how to convince her?

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Both.

 

[Megaolix]

So, arguments. Sona, if anything, will want to know why we want to do this, especially given the reputation. Then she'll want to know how we'll do it before giving approval, to make sure we're taking it seriously. At the very least, we need to answer those two matters.

 

[noahgab1133]

should we leave out anything supernatural, at least til she asks or implies she knows?

also darn now I am really excited to what you have planned for our limit break I mean worst case scenario is we do it on ophis and spend the next week trying to fight great red. oops XD

 

[Silversun17]

I'm having a hard time picking out flowers,

I first tried picking out flour flowers that matched with the four virtues but the ones that come closest are not plants one would use in a floral display.

then i tried picking out flowers that represent traits the school would like to encourage and ran into the same problem.

 

[Brandark]

If we can use Irresistible Salesman Spirit here without being detected , we should do so.

 

[Smuthunter]

So, arguments. Sona, if anything, will want to know why we want to do this, especially given the reputation. Then she'll want to know how we'll do it before giving approval, to make sure we're taking it seriously. At the very least, we need to answer those two matters.

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Leaving out any mention of the supernatural means we would have to either lie about it or beat around the bush. The second one is unlikely to work against Sona, she's too shrewd to be taken in easily by most things we could say to her, and the first one we suck at because of our low Manipulation score. Since Issei already knows that Sona is a devil we should just cut to the chase and tell her we're doing something that will benefit devil society. Being honest will allow us to leverage the full weight of our First Presence Excellency against her.

[X] [First Presence Excellency + Irresistible Salesman Spirit] Lay out the whole plan as your pitch.

 

[Megaolix]

I'm not saying to leave out the shrine. But we should let Sona decide if she wants to bring the supernatural into the discussion.

 

[Mu-Sensei]

I'm having a hard time picking out flowers,

I first tried picking out flour flowers that matched with the four virtues but the ones that come closest are not plants one would use in a floral display.

then i tried picking out flowers that represent traits the school would like to encourage and ran into the same problem.

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Orchids. Incredibly beautiful, hard to bloom (most bloom once a year), especially after being transplanted, and coming into a myriad of colors and designs. The only downside is that they need a greenhouse, being shade flowers, but if we can set up in a nice arrangement, I bet it will be a very popular dating spot on campus.

 

[Brandark]

We can go for the Jedi approach and make sure that everything we tell her is true , from a certain point of view.

We shouldn't bring up our knowledge about the supernatural aspect at all. Casually telling her about the fertility charms of the shrine should be enough to get her interested , and we can pretend to be a human who believes in the supernatural , but has no actual experience with it.

 

[Smuthunter]

I'm not saying to leave out the shrine. But we should let Sona decide if she wants to bring the supernatural into the discussion.

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I think it would be better if we came right out and brought devils into the discussion immediately. The school's most infamous pervert trying to put fertility charms on the front walk has all kinds of implications that we should probably squelch before they occur to Sona.

 

[Silversun17]

okay here's what i'm thinking for a mix of flowers

Pink, purple, and violet tuilps
Bronze and white chrysanthemum

the display would ring the fountains with six planters. three would have tuilps and three would have chysanthemum and they would be set in an alternating pattern.

We can go for the Jedi approach and make sure that everything we tell her is true , from a certain point of view.

We shouldn't bring up our knowledge about the supernatural aspect at all. Casually telling her about the fertility charms of the shrine should be enough to get her interested , and we can pretend to be a human who believes in the supernatural , but has no actual experience with it.

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she likely knows about our involvement so hiding it is not a good idea.

 

[Megaolix]

Guys, about deciding flowers...

Today is the decisive day. It wasn't much, but you spent a couple of hours yesterday night preparing a rough outline of your project and how it should work, complete with the best plants to use.

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No need to think about that.

 

[Silversun17]

Guys, about deciding flowers...

No need to think about that.

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Alexander, are we writing in what we what the floral display to be like or just how to convince her?

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Both.

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[Brandark]

okay here's what i'm thinking for a mix of flowers

Pink, purple, and violet tuilps
Bronze and white chrysanthemum

the display would ring the fountains with six planters. three would have tuilps and three would have chysanthemum and they would be set in an alternating pattern.

she likely knows about our involvement so hiding it is not a good idea.

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Good choice . I would like to add Dianthus , Hydrangea and Dahlia as well . also , if possible we can ask for small pond in the middle of the garden , with Water Lilies in it.

I don't think she knows of our involvement . Rias wants to include us in her peerage. She won't like competition.

 

[Silversun17]

Good choice . I would like to add Dianthus , Hydrangea and Dahlia as well . also , if possible we can ask for small pond in the middle of the garden , with Water Lilies in it.

I don't think she knows of our involvement . Rias wants to include us in her peerage. She won't like competition.

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the floral display is supposed to go around the school's fountain.

 

[Alexander]

Guys, about deciding flowers...

No need to think about that.

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No, you need: I am letting you decide what Issei decided.

 

[Brandark]

the floral display is supposed to go around the school's fountain.

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Oh , OK. We can put the Water Lilies in the fountain itself , then.

and when I say Dianthus I mean Sweet Williams , of the Heart Attack variety.

 

[Silversun17]

Oh , OK. We can put the Water Lilies in the fountain itself , then.

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I wouldn't, the fountain should be kept easy to clean and the water lilies would complicate that.

 

[Megaolix]

Anyway, for arguments...

I say we first tell her about the restored shrine and that we've helped. And that while the shrine is ready, it lacks people coming to visit it. And that we thought we could help out in this matter. Obviously, pregnancy is a serious matter and you know better than to use that. But the shrine also gave blessing to crops before and we wanted to use that side to promote the shrine using a floral display.

Then, if Sona start speaking about more supernatural motives, we can admit it's to help Tomofuri gains more faith. We can admit Rias is involved and it's a deal we brought to her between her and Tomofuri, but the shrine needs more followers and since Rias already at it restored, we can't just ask her for help again.

At least that's how I would go as a base.

Also guys, about deciding flowers... remember to keep costs not too high. It's not like we'll be the one maintaining it after all, so it will be a factor for Sona to approve it or not.

 

[Brandark]

Okay , I will drop the water lilies , then. For now , let's have some pics of the flowers mentioned so far.

Dahlia:-

Dianthus:-

Hydrangea:-

Tulips:-

and lastly , Chrysanthemum:-

 

[noahgab1133]

should we do something like this?

or like this?

here are some other good ones

 

[Brandark]

Damn , that third one especially is beautiful . But considering the limited space and the even more limited money in our pockets , it would be best to keep the arrangement simple.

Actually , do we have to determine the arrangement ourselves ? Aren't there any gardeners in Kuoh ? a big academy like that should have some stuff to take care of the grounds.

 

[ShadowAngelBeta]

Don't forget to take into account the various meanings Flowers can have, especially when you start mixing them and the order in which they are mixed and arranged.

 

[Silversun17]

Don't forget to take into account the various meanings Flowers can have, especially when you start mixing them and the order in which they are mixed and arranged.

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I know, i tried to create a mix that symbolized the four virtues of exalted but none of them worked for a display around a fountain.

 

[Brandark]

If you want the four virtues of Exalted , you can have Tulip for Compassion , Iris for Valor , Azalea for Temperence , and if you are willing to stretch the meaning a bit , Gladiolus for Conviction.

 

[Fellgar]

Okay we should definitely drop all exalt related theme's for this. We aren't trying to lay a claim to the school or anything with this. Its all about drawing in more people to the shrine. Not stroking our own ego.

So a shrine dedicated to fertility? Not going to go over well with a highschool audience without a lot of creative reintrepreting. So we should rephrase it more as a get your significant other more interested in your or simply making it a great spot to just look at and drop the undertones entirely for something else.

The shrine should have flowers blooming 12 months out of the year and get butterflies gallor to gather I'm thinking, a great breading ground for beautiful butterflies to congregate around to awe the people?

I don't know a thing about flowers so I leave that up to experts but we should refrain from the fertility aspect. The only place I could think of that being a proper draw for is setting up at all teh local clinics or local hospital. specifically teh clinics with a specialty in child birth?

 

[megrisvernin]

A couple remarks.

I think whatever we say to Sona we shouldn't lie. She's smart & perceptive & being caught in a falsehood is a mistake. Omit facts sure. Lie to her? No.

I'm willing to bet Sona knows all about the incident with Asia. Rias probably couldn't conceal her movements in attracting Shariel & certainly Sona knows he went to Kuoh academy with three of his "fallen angels".

So consider from her position.

1) A human who has allied himself with Rias wants to meet with her. He has in the past defeated fallen angels in single combat & displayed the use of a Sacred Gear

2) The human is coming alone, without Rias or anyone else present.

3) His stated goal is ask about a Flower Display.

What can we say without mentioning devils or anything else?

1) We have an IC reason besides her status as a Devil to have her uncomfortable with us. Our nature as a member of the Idiot Trio who is unremarkable in other qualities, thus someone she only knows from the grapevine & heard bad things.

2) We had a chance to visit the shrine & we know that two of underclassmen are involved there. It's not having much luck attracting attendees

3) Despite our reputation we do appreciate beauty in the world around(mostly women) us & we know just how important nature & life can be(girls love flowers & the outdoors can be a nice dating scene).

4) Culturally Japan has a strong appreciation for nature, but may people our age never have a change to really appreciate it. With a lot of population flight towards the larger cities, the changes for enjoying nature & natural beauty is few & far between. Having had a chance to visit the shrine we strongly support it's focus on nature & life & wish to cultivation this attitude among our fellow students.

5) Why this matters to Sona. Students these days are always connected, constantly thinking about social media, talking to friends & the latest gossip. Even when they're unable to use such devices in class, they are more likely then not planning on using them between classes & a post they'll make online. While we consider technology to have it's place we believe that they're underappreciating the value of the real world in favor of some virtual one with its own artificial values. We think by promoting nature displays & increasing the opportunities for students to view flowers, that they'll be more inclined to stop & appreciate the world around them. Creating a relaxing atmosphere which we feel would help alleviate the stress that naturally occurs in a learning environment & giving them a quiet moment to stop & process everything they've learned that day increasing their ability to recall & use it. Perhaps even encourage students to hold meetings outdoors where they'll be free of computers & other distracting elements, & better able to take certain lessons to heart.

 

[ShadowAngelBeta]

Okay we should definitely drop all exalt related theme's for this. We aren't trying to lay a claim to the school or anything with this. Its all about drawing in more people to the shrine. Not stroking our own ego.

So a shrine dedicated to fertility? Not going to go over well with a highschool audience without a lot of creative reintrepreting. So we should rephrase it more as a get your significant other more interested in your or simply making it a great spot to just look at and drop the undertones entirely for something else.

The shrine should have flowers blooming 12 months out of the year and get butterflies gallor to gather I'm thinking, a great breading ground for beautiful butterflies to congregate around to awe the people?

I don't know a thing about flowers so I leave that up to experts but we should refrain from the fertility aspect. The only place I could think of that being a proper draw for is setting up at all teh local clinics or local hospital. specifically teh clinics with a specialty in child birth?

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Or we could go with the Nature Fertility aspect. Who wouldn't love to see a bunch of baby animals running around? Get a lot of female students there, then maybe we can spread it to those looking to start a family and have them pray there once that gets going. (Students would offer up prayer and donations without expecting much in return, while the older women would and thus would require power being spent on them as well.)

 

[megrisvernin]

I have an idea how to defuse tensions with Sona. Writing it up.