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First, Essence 6 is a century away in game time. Second, if we get there we can probably make a FotD version of that custom.
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Alexander said:Just to see if you were sure about your choices 8)Sadly to learn a Sidereal Styles you need a Sifu (Sensei) who know the style and...well, While Bright saw Siderals using it she's no expert. She's a monster with a sword, but don't ask her about Martials Arts. So you are limited to Celestial and Terrestrial Martials Arts.
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The problem with this is that Exalted is a setting where "pride goeth before the fall" is virtually a law of physics. Moreso for Solars because of the curse. If we get full of ourselves we're headed for baaaaad places.megrisvernin said:I'd like our character to be the next Sakamaki Izayoi. Prideful & not humble in the least, but with the power to back up his swagger. It's not arrogance if you can match your boasts after all.
Smuthunter said:The problem with this is that Exalted is a setting where "pride goeth before the fall" is virtually a law of physics. Moreso for Solars because of the curse. If we get full of ourselves we're headed for baaaaad places.
Trigger: The character witnesses someone attractive in peril or duress (even if the character himself is the cause of that duress).
"Might makes right" is an extremely dangerous mode of thought for anyone to be having, even with benevolent intentions.megrisvernin said:Really? Isn't it kind of the opposite problem with our Virtue Flaw? Remember our flaw is
If we don't active use our power to rescue people we'll trigger our flaw. The best way to prevent that is to be some overt with our power, if toning it down to maintain the masquerade in front of mundanes, so that bullies & fools know that to commit injustice we will find them & they will lose, utterly & completely.
Hell isn't that what we're doing here? Treating our power as a mandate to go out & impart justice by beating up criminals?
Smuthunter said:"Might makes right" is an extremely dangerous mode of thought for anyone to be having, even with benevolent intentions.
"The greatest madness of all is to see the world as it is and not as it should be." This is the reality that we're facing, but there's a difference between saying "this is a shitty situation and we need to be better than this" and "this is a shitty situation but oh well, that's the way the world works."megrisvernin said:Isn't that sort of the reality we're facing at the moment, de facto if not de jure? The faction, fallen angels?, wants us dead for whatever reason & we've been forced to aligned ourselves with Rias to obtain a measure of protection. There isn't any sort of police or faction that will take steps on our behalf & Rias only took on our character in canon in part because her Peerage is so undermanned. In the end it all comes down to power with the groups we face & we control our character's development.
Of course it's tempting. But that's also the route that has a strong possibility of leading to Issei getting drunk on power and turning into a First Age Solar because he bought into the idea that his power gives him some kind of intrinsic "right" to do things. There's a whole lot of horrible things you can do under the justification of "keeping people I love safe."In short we have no choice but to pursue power even if we want to have justice or rule of law. Besides I've yet to play a SOLAR EXALT, especially one of the First Age(our mentor anyways) in a setting we're not Anathema. A SOLAR EXALT on easy mode with a character who wants to harem. Don't tell me it's not tempting, if only to read some interesting posts.
Smuthunter said:"The greatest madness of all is to see the world as it is and not as it should be." This is the reality that we're facing, but there's a difference between saying "this is a shitty situation and we need to be better than this" and "this is a shitty situation but oh well, that's the way the world works."
Of course it's tempting. But that's also the route that has a strong possibility of leading to Issei getting drunk on power and turning into a First Age Solar because he bought into the idea that his power gives him some kind of intrinsic "right" to do things. There's a whole lot of horrible things you can do under the justification of "keeping people I love safe."
megrisvernin said:But I'm a little weak on first Age Solar mythology so I'll give you a challenge. Given me a few examples of First Age Solars committing atrocious acts or crimes that did so not because of their virtue flaw & I'll relent.
Given that our virtue flaw is seeing someone in distress, without examples to the counter I just feel like we can managing Issei without him falling because of his pride. Almost anyone else would, but as a Solar we have the power to fix the world.
Bad governance you say.megrisvernin said:Hmm. You feel fairly certain that that this well be a bad outcome & I can't help but remember that while the Solars were dicks, the Sidereals decided to just murder them all rather than try to fix the problem. Their rule was unjust at times, but they fell because of betrayal not bad governance.
But I'm a little weak on first Age Solar mythology so I'll give you a challenge. Given me a few examples of First Age Solars committing atrocious acts or crimes that did so not because of their virtue flaw & I'll relent.
Given that our virtue flaw is seeing someone in distress, without examples to the counter I just feel like we can managing Issei without him falling because of his pride. Almost anyone else would, but as a Solar we have the power to fix the world.
cyberswordsmen said:One solar turned an entire city of people into a living biohorror so that their combined screams of agony made pretty music.
Another turned an entire population of a city into crystal statues for art.
They fought entire wars purely for entertainment value. Millions dead for entertainment.
They performed experiments that threatened to destroy reality. When the Sidereals informed them of how close to complete annihilation they brought Creation solars proceeded to design more experiments to maximize the odds of that happening to see what would happen.
They were corrupt in pretty much every way they could be corrupt but were powerful enough that they could rebuild the civilizations they destroy for games, and keep themselves in power.
All of those things require to much long term planning to be the result of a limit break. Frankly the Solars that were despots like Lenin or Hitler were the less destructive ones as they weren't getting all that creative in their destruction.
Don't get me wrong the Sidereals fucked up the way they handled the problem but they were reacting to a very real problem.
Personally I think the smart thing would be to kill off the current generation of solars and educate the next one in a controlled manner to try and prevent shit like this from happening.
Smuthunter said:Bad governance you say.
There's this thing called Operation Wyldhand that happened in the Late First Age when things were starting to get really awful. The Solar Deliberative collectively voted on opening up a huge swath of the Threshold to the Deep Wyld as a training exercise for the celestial exalts. The act of doing this killed billions of mortals who were living in that chunk of Creation, but the Solars apparently shrugged it off because they were all assigned to live in nice places in their next lives. Our very own Bright Shattered Ice was one of the Solars who approved of this massacre.
megrisvernin said:I knew the Solars committed atrocities. What I'm asking is can you confirm that these actions were distinct from those influenced by their virtue flaws? I just feel that with our particular virtue flaw, it won't motivate us to hurt anyone. At worst we'll act like an idiot.