There's been a long-held rule that you can't repost other people's English stories without very explicit permission and now the rule is being applied to translated works. It's not really about plagiarism.
Yes.
That's not really about the translation aspect imo; the same arguments would apply to the same commentary posted on a copy of the work in the original language. In particular, the "substitution/it removes the need to buy/access a copy of the original" argument, which in my understanding of US copyright law would be the knockout argument.
It was in response to a specific post that referenced plagiarism.
No. Urging you to read the definition of plagiarism.
I would bet actual real money that any small time internet author's stories being more widely posted always gives them more benefit, not less. As long as appropriate credit is given of course. Your argument holds about as much water as the nonsense spouted by the record industry.
There's been a long-held rule that you can't repost other people's English stories without very explicit permission, for good reason, and now the rule is being applied to translated works.
I see these kinds of arguments everywhere these days and they make my skin crawl.
YouTube has a decay rate somewhat above average, as all banned users have their entire video histories torched and they're quite banhappy. It's typical-ish of megaplatforms (I don't go on megaplatforms, but I have a vague recollection of some of Reddit/Twitter/Facebook doing this also), but mid-sized platforms last longer.
Is that a bot or something?
There are a lot of weird dynamics in scientific writing & universities that comes from perverse incentives pushed by the academic publishers. This was of course also made worse by copyright and its interplay there.
Damn that was a reality check. May the author rest in peace.
No, you were arguing that the point was irrelevant because not plagiarism. I went back to the beginning of the thread of argument, as I should have in the first place, since the point wasn't really about plagiarism, it was about why would QQ have the new rule.
Did you, like, not read my posts? A few replies ago I go on about why fanfics in general are fair use and translations aren't. Although technically you're not wrong; claiming fair use is basically saying, "yes I'm taking your stuff, but it's justified."
If you actually believed that, you'd ask for permission. If you were right, you'd get permission. Presumably all the people that ask for, and get, permission are cases where the original authors agree that they'll get more benefit from the repost/translation. But that is, always, the original author's call to make.
"If A wants to say/write something that C wrote first and A copied from C, and B wants to listen to/read it, B should listen to/read C's version unless A gets C's permission" is traditionally considered a different thing than censorship. (Arguing whether something is censorship is fundamentally misunderstanding how words work, namely, words mean what people use them to mean. "Censorship" is generally used for prohibiting a thing from being said by anyone at all.) And if you're going to appeal to restraint of trade, then the right to own one's original work is kinda important to having any trade at all.
The reason most translations are crap is because of the original copywrite owners.
This isn't the only site that is getting that translation, though whether it is the same person posting at different places idk, but if this discourages them from translating in general then that is sad.
There's a reason quite a few small bands put their music up for free on Bandcamp or the PirateBay.
Censorship (through a number of laws they pushed) and lawfare (in general, even without a "legitimate" case) is commonly used by monopolies to maintain their position.
Go back to your dumb IRL stalker/yandere forum if you want your absolutist free speech nonsense (oh wait it got nuked off the net because you were "Kinda sodomizing the Proboards TOS" as you put it).
Dude, it's not plagiarism, you're talking about copyright infringement, it's not the same thing.
They still do links to works; you just need to have an account on there to see it. It's really shitty, but it is what it is.
He can also be found here, if anyone wants to find him!
I haven't actually seen a consensus definition of plagiarism; what I've seen is that it's context-dependent. What's ok in undergrad essays is different from what's ok in published academic papers, both presumably different from what's ok in online articles, fiction books, etc. The one common thread I've seen is "plagiarism means taking too much of someone else's stuff without a legitimizing reason", and in this context the two reasonable definitions of "too much" are either (a) copyright infringement, or (b) what you, for hopefully well-supported reasons, think copyright infringement should be.
You are confusing "plagiarism" and "copyright infringement".
Write a fanfic, as in 'completely write up a different story' or translate the fanfic?
They really shouldn't have any say in whether two or more people decide to share cultural works with one another.
Translate the fanfic but add some original content. So add some new characters, or change them. Change the setting, change some names, adjust the plot. Big enough changes to call it a fanfic but not so much that you are creating completely new work.
My being right has no bearing on whether or not whatever author would give permission, because people are weird.
Censorship is the action of preventing or limiting access to communication and/or information. Your ABC scenario qualifies. Check a dictionary some time.
Even if we ignore you being overly general here, you're still way off. People can and will trade all day long without need for any sort of copyright monopoly enforcement.
Have you considered checking a dictionary? They typically contain consensus definitions. Wild idea, I know.
Ah, but people who subscribe to Patreon aren't paying for the author's fanfiction; they're paying to get early access, to vote on what they write, and/or to support their original works.
Honestly it is a clash between western and eastern values. I remember situations where a korean author asked for fan translators to stop translating even though they were willing to pay the author and said author had no plans to have it translated themselves.
