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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

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Korttihai said:
Yes actually. The separate o is commonly combined in the name in english. it is sometimes spelled Susanō to indicate the long o. Source wikipedia.
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It's correct. The problem is that DC and Sandman, where the character appeared, have it written incorrectly. As such, the iteration of Susanoo no Mikoto that appears in DC properties has his name wrong and is actually called Susano.

Or at least, that's how I understand it.
 
Chojin Patriarch said:
...Well, shit. Is that you, Drax?
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Nope while this has deviated a lot, this is earth 16 young justice. Also duding the source of the Photo used, it should be the corrupted combined form of the Forever people, who didn't show up when they canonically did due to Paul merging with the Ophidian and them being cautious due to the Orange Entity and not going to earth
 
Chojin Patriarch said:
And he would be dreadfully annoyed that you aren't using his full title.
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Then he should have a punchier name, like Zeus.
Or longer, given that the good doctor himself is still alive, and barely looks middle-aged.
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Wrong Danner. He was refering to Abednego Danner, who is definitely dead.
"You are here to bear witness to a statement of power."
...and though I could totally throw her off I decide to go along with it.
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Thank you, corrected.
Korttihai said:
Yes actually. The separate o is commonly combined in the name in english. it is sometimes spelled Susanō to indicate the long o. Source wikipedia.
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Neither the SI or Adom know that.
 
Korttihai said:
Yes actually. The separate o is commonly combined in the name in english. it is sometimes spelled Susanō to indicate the long o. Source wikipedia.
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No, because that's how DC spelt it and it being one of the correct ways to write it due to the inherent difficulty of romanizing a gods name written in Japanese. Susano, Susanoo and Susano-o are ALL valid ways of writing it but it in this case Susano or Susano-o are best and Zoat has chosen Susano.
 
Would the SI distending from his human form and flaming the Avarice in every human being in the planet not 'help' with the anti-life? At least in trying to resist it. Not even considering trying to eat and then spit out the new form of anti-life from everyone?

also, THIS seems like the Godzilla threshold to fuse with the Ophidian again and do all of the above.

Maybe get Alan and Guy to do the same /attempt to with Hope and Will respectively.

seems weird it was time it the SI's options.

shouldn't he have contacted Grandma Controller already?
 
Shotiegun11 said:
Would the SI distending from his human form and flaming the Avarice in every human being in the planet not 'help' with the anti-life? At least in trying to resist it. Not even considering trying to eat and then spit out the new form of anti-life from everyone?
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In the most conservative story to ever feature in Hellblazer (including the one where he dressed up as Margaret Thatcher), it turned out that the First was behind consumerism and FOMO. John countered that by making a couple of young people it affected dream their grandfather's life. When they awoke, they compared their own shallow existences with what they just saw, and straightened out. When the First said 'okay, but what about everyone else?' John basically indicated that he didn't really care.

I'm fairly sure that you're using 'distending' wrongly.

Flaring the avarice of every human being might help a few with their Anti-Life exposure, temporarily. It would make far more worse.
also, THIS seems like the Godzilla threshold to fuse with the Ophidian again and do all of the above.

Maybe get Alan and Guy to do the same /attempt to with Hope and Will respectively.

seems weird it was time it the SI's options.
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Simple, really. They're not sure that they Ophidian is immune. The Ophidian getting Anti-Lifed would be worse than the Earth getting Anti-Lifed.
Shouldn't he have contacted Grandma Controller already?
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To paraphrase Dr. Hopkins, 'If we knew how to stop the Anti-Life, don't you think we'd have already done that?'
 
Chojin Patriarch said:
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You know the way you say this actually makes sense.

In Obloquy's story, they said that New Gods choose their named based on what they wish to do with their godhood, so Darkseid choosing his name makes sense, since he wants to bring out the worst in everyone.

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Sloppy, OL. You're usually better about that sort of thing. Is the sheer stupidity of people getting to you?
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Paul has acted like this before, so it's nothing new.

Chojin Patriarch said:
Man, the kids of the DC Earth must be in constant therapy with all the disasters...
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Everyone is going to need therapy after this.

The most lucrative job you can get on Earth 16 is being a therapist.

You'll never run out of work.

Too bad you're also going to need therapy.

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Ah, Lois. Still resisting. Good on you
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Thanks, I was wondering who that was.
 
Darko said:
You know the way you say this actually makes sense.

In Obloquy's story, they said that New Gods choose their named based on what they wish to do with their godhood, so Darkseid choosing his name makes sense, since he wants to bring out the worst in everyone.
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In DC comics it was shown that New Gods choose their god names out of a book.

Uxas chose Darkseid because he was being chuuni.

"None had dared choose Darkseid as a name, but I, the awesomeness that I am, will be the first to choose it!"

Note that Darkseid's whole schtick is basically overcompensating for feelings of inadequacy because he had stupendously crappy parents.

Hence his mother killing his wife. He stopped feeling the need to brainwash everyone in the universe into pretending his shit didn't stink because his wife looking at him with love made him feel like a worthwhile being for the first time in his life.
 
We do see that there are counters to it, or at least stuff than can slow anti-life down. But the previous time Paul broke anti-life it was a piece that avarice could counter. I feel like each colored emotional entity power can counter an aspect of anti-life but only white light can counter all. (Okay, Sandman says Hope is more powerful than Anti-life but my point stands).

Strength of Amun is helping to endure, but it doesn't seem to do more than that. Might need Gaia, or another entity to be able to undo it. (Huh, I wonder if the Rot or any entity that's associated with decay could help- turning death into the material for new life)
 
Kinda wondering what Boss Smiley is doing during all this, since he has stepped in a couple times so far. I'm a little unclear on all his goals, but "the entire Earth gets anti-lifed and serves Darkseid forever" probably isn't in line with them.

Actually, didn't they free Uncle Sam after the stuff with Johnny Reb and Boss Smiley? Given independence and rugged individualism and all that are parts of the classical American ideal, could Uncle Sam not be a good entity to contact to help protect the US?
 
CTrees said:
Kinda wondering what Boss Smiley is doing during all this, since he has stepped in a couple times so far. I'm a little unclear on all his goals, but "the entire Earth gets anti-lifed and serves Darkseid forever" probably isn't in line with them.

Actually, didn't they free Uncle Sam after the stuff with Johnny Reb and Boss Smiley? Given independence and rugged individualism and all that are parts of the classical American ideal, could Uncle Sam not be a good entity to contact to help protect the US?
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He could... Probably be a part of the solution, or at least of the recovery. But from his point of view he just dug his way out from under a mountain of shit, only to get two mountains' worth dropped on him.
 
So quick question, back when they just defeated John Quinn and all the various Johns fused together, Sanderson sort of vanished. And then the narrative said that it looked like Constantine was wearing some of Sanderson's gear.
So what happened to Sanderson?
 
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So quick question, back when they just defeated John Quinn and all the various Johns fused together, Sanderson sort of vanished. And then the narrative said that it looked like Constantine was wearing some of Sanderson's gear.
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Now that I look over it again I realise that it wasn't clear, but Sanderson was carrying combined-John. I'll just edit it.
So what happened to Sanderson?
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Right now he's in the Tower of Fate, since he has no particular resistance to Anti-Life and they might need him for magic rituals.
 
GodKiller999 said:
Man, haven't posted here in a couple of years, but felt like catching back up in the story, gotta say I'm not sure what's more impressive after all this time, Chojin Patriarch posting his detailed commentary or Vaermina still hate watching and making inane comments.
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I vote for option 3: Mr Zoat continuing to post daily after god knows how many years.
 
Pete Tong (part 21)
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    • 31st December 2012
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    I set William down on the Belle Reve helipad and put my right hand on his left shoulder to support him as he slumps.

    "Are you managing?"

    "Ah… Managing? I think so." He tries smiling, but it doesn't look right, and he picks up on my reaction. "It really… Doesn't feel good, though. Are you sure you don't need me to do anything?"

    "You're a child who can block the Anti-Life. No one here is going to care about anything else."

    He nods. Must be frustrating to be treated as an adult as Captain Marvel and then be routinely dismissed as William Batson. Even though Captain Marvel is a good deal more intelligent than when he's in William mode.

    "Orange Lantern to Warden Waller." I march in the direction of the entry point. "Ring, put that on repeat until she answers."

    "Compliance."

    William cautiously follows me towards the fortified gateway that would lead into the prison. Usually, this would be constantly manned night and day, but under the circumstances I shouldn't be too surprised that it's not. I am mildly impressed that the guards managed to retreat inside. If that's what happened: the wards are blocking my empathic vision. They might have fled, or-.

    "Lantern. What the hell is going on?"

    "Anti-Life broadcast. We can't stop it yet. I'm here to perform an evacuation."

    "You can't stop it? Then how am I thinking straight?"

    "Metahuman, but he can only block it over a small area. As soon as he leaves-."

    "I get the picture." I hear the clacking of keys in the background. "Security's fucked. I can't open the door, just override the emergency response."

    "I can break in. But I have orders for you."

    "From who?"

    "The President."

    "Horne or Knight?"

    "Adams."

    "Who?"

    "There's a giant super-robot in Washington and the entire population is forming neat lines under the orders of their mind control helmets." I smash the door apart with a crumbler ram, and the alarm sounds only once. "Including the former President and the President Elect. Proven unnatural mental influence automatically removes someone from the line of succession."

    "Shit. Who's Adams? How far down-?"

    "The highest ranking air force officer we could find who wasn't completely non-functional." Thank goodness he was on the Watchtower when this happened. Apparently it's too high up to be affected easily by the corruption of the thaumosphere. "Can you get the guards together? I'm heading towards the prisoners now."

    So many wonderfully effective security systems battered aside. I wince a little as each one crumbles.

    "I can do that. We're in lock down, so they're in their cells. Or should be. What's your plan?"

    "Task Force X has been approved."

    "You said-."

    "We're it, Warden. Most superheroes in America who weren't part of the League joined the Alliance of the Just. That's where it started. As far as we can tell, every single one is now working for Apokolips."

    "Ah, hell."

    "So your plan is back in action. They fight and they get a pardon. They don't, they can stay here and take their chances."

    "And if they try anything?"

    "We don't have the resources to waste. If they fuck around and survive, they get to be our test subject. I don't know if removing someone's soul makes them immune to the Anti-Life, but it would be interesting to find out. Kadabra's class in session?"

    "It was. I'll get the staff organised."

    "Orange Lantern out."

    "Ah, hey."

    I stop, turning to see William kneeling next to a collapsed guard. William shakes his shoulders, and the guard looks up at him with a thousand yard stare.

    "What?"

    "I know it's awful, what it does to your head. But right now the world needs you to get on your feet. Can you do that?"

    "I..?" He shakes his head as if in a daze. "It's… It's all…"

    "We're leaving in twenty minutes whether you're on your feet or not. Do you want to go back to feeling like that?"

    "Nono ohGod."

    He scrabbles against the wall to pull himself upright, clearly not right in the head but at least in motion. William flashes me a disappointed look before taking the guard's right hand.

    "This way, mister."

    "Ri-right."

    A little way down the corridor… And the door is missing.

    Sonic projector.

    "Kadabra, it's Orange Lantern. We're here to get you out."

    There's a brief delay, then the door appears and Thomas very cautiously sticks his head out. I've never actually seen him look scared before, but he's doing it now. He's half-cringed and tense as a cable. After seeing that it's really me he relaxes a little.

    "Hey, man."

    "Thomas."

    I walk up to him, push the door the rest of the way open, and hug him. It's a sign of how off-kilter he is that he actually hugs back. For about two seconds. I let go the instant I spot him getting uncomfortable, and he steps back into the room.

    Kadabra's class is a little larger than it used to be. Or as I should say, the educational program. These days, he's not actually the only teacher. The privileges that come with actually teaching the other inmates useful skills are good enough that several inmates with useful skills have volunteered, and if they're not a total psycho Waller generally lets them.

    "Kadabra."

    He's sitting on his desk, looking a little more together than the other students. Looking, because I can see that it's due to his implants.

    "That was Anti-Life, wasn't it?"

    "It still is. We're not out of the woods. The world is infected and we can't turn it off. Who wants out?"
     
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    • Mr Zoat said:
    "The highest ranking air force officer we could find who wasn't completely non-functional." Thank goodness he was on the Watchtower when this happened. Apparently it's too high up to be affected easily by the corruption of the thaumosphere. "Can you get the guards together? I'm heading towards the prisoners now."
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    Thanks for the update.

    Quick question for ya. Does the quoted bit mean that anyone on the Watchtower can't do magic? Because they're no longer linked to Earth's thaumosphere? As Earth born organisms, is there no link maintained even over just a minor remove from the planet? How would the moon be affected? Does that fall under the Thaumosphere?

    This is interesting, because I thought the connection to the thaumosphere was part proximal, but also part metaphysical through things like the Dreaming linking everyone together.
     
    AR760 said:
    Thanks for the update.

    Quick question for ya. Does the quoted bit mean that anyone on the Watchtower can't do magic? Because they're no longer linked to Earth's thaumosphere? As Earth born organisms, is there no link maintained even over just a minor remove from the planet? How would the moon be affected? Does that fall under the Thaumosphere?

    This is interesting, because I thought the connection to the thaumosphere was part proximal, but also part metaphysical through things like the Dreaming linking everyone together.
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    They can still do magic, bit it may be weaker.
     
    Mr Zoat said:
    "The highest ranking air force officer we could find who wasn't completely non-functional." Thank goodness he was on the Watchtower when this happened. Apparently it's too high up to be affected easily by the corruption of the thaumosphere. "Can you get the guards together? I'm heading towards the prisoners now."
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    When did the League reveal the Watchtower's existence?
     
    AR760 said:
    Thanks for the update.

    Quick question for ya. Does the quoted bit mean that anyone on the Watchtower can't do magic? Because they're no longer linked to Earth's thaumosphere? As Earth born organisms, is there no link maintained even over just a minor remove from the planet? How would the moon be affected? Does that fall under the Thaumosphere?

    This is interesting, because I thought the connection to the thaumosphere was part proximal, but also part metaphysical through things like the Dreaming linking everyone together.
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    Nabu managed to ward the Watchtower. That its in orbit just means that magic is harder.
    In this case it likely means that there is Anti-Life exposure happening on the Watchtower, but its weak enough that you can just work through it.
     
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    wait, did Atom got promoted to President

    he the only air force person who have any reason to be on the Watchtower who name is Adam
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    It's "Adams" so I think so. As everyone on Earth is Anti-Life'd Captain Atom is de facto the highest, least infected, member of the US Government.
     
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