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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

We're All Mad Here (part 1) New
We're All Mad Here

14th July 2013
08:02 GMT

I stare in confusion at the masked face construct hovering over my ring.

"Forget 'how did you get this number?'. How are you even talking to me?"

"Oh, that's simple, sir. Between Batman's power ring and the Apokoliptian technology built into this station, there's very little on Earth that we can't communicate with."

Huh. I hadn't realised that those could interface in that direction.

"Alright, ah… Who are you?"

"I am a Peace Agent, sir. As you observed yourself, having one man -or even two- oversee the reconstruction of a planet isn't a viable method."

"So in addition to the field agents like Mister Blank, we've got additional administrators."

"Just so, sir. Batman and Mister Atom oversee our work, but unlike before other members of the Justice League could step into their roles. My role is to identify areas of need, and contact Justice League associated assets in order to meet those needs. I can also handle discussions with other agencies concerning operational matters, though obviously higher level negotiations would need to be handled either by Batman or a designated member of the Justice League."

"Mister Blank mentioned that he'd had his memories removed. Do you..? Did you have that done?"

"Of course, sir. That's part of the reason why I wear a full face mask. I could come from any country or ethnic group and no one could know. We can represent all nations."

And none, naturally.

"What about your accent?"

"Since we're essentially using a power ring translation system, it's simple to turn that into whatever the person we're speaking to thinks is appropriate for a functionary. I imagine that you're hearing me enunciate in the manner of an English butler."

"Close." Hm. "So, is there something that you want me to do?"

"No. This is simply one of a long list of introductory calls I will be making today to acclimatise people to the system that the Global Peace Agency will be using going forwards."

"So are you 'my' Global Peace Agent?"

"No, sir. We're completely interchangeable. Any of us can contact you as needed, and you won't know the difference."

"Okay. That's a bit weird, but obviously… Availability is going to be a bit random, and I can see how it's useful to make sure that there's no loss of efficiency if one of you is busy…"

"Oh, that's not why, sir. We at the Global Peace Agency don't believe in personal attachment. That's why I don't have a face or accent."

"That's a bit strange, but I suppose that's true of Hub City's last two superheroes. Is there anything that you need me to do right now?"

"Not at the moment. Your work in bringing Hub City to full functionality takes precedence. However, Justice League affiliate Squire relayed your idea to increase the number of nuclear power plants worldwide, and that's received approval. Orders have been sent out for construction work and raw materials, so in a few weeks we'd like you to collect the fuel rods."

"A few weeks? Feeling optimistic?"

"The time line is perfectly possible to achieve with new technologies being properly leveraged."

"Alright. Yes, I can be available for courier duty."

"Thank you, sir. The only other matter of local concern is the location of The Question. He hasn't been seen for a considerable amount of time. While turning Hub City into an agricultural manufacturing hub is the most useful thing you could be working on, it would also be useful if he could be located."

"I'll keep an eye out. Anything else?"

"Not at this time, sir. Thank you for your time."

The head disappears, and I…

Huh.

The J.L.I. maintained a team structure. Obviously there were people who weren't superheroes in support roles, but they didn't do hero management. From what I remember of the Earth 12 Justice League… Same sort of thing. The staff were just maintenance, communications and… Canteen? Medical? Something like that.

This is novel.

Incoming message from Honour Guard Lantern Guy Gardner.

Answer.

Guy's face takes the place recently abandoned by the Peace Agent. He's frowning disconcertedly. "Hey Paul, did you just get a super-creepy message from a guy with no face?"

"I'm not sure that I'd call it 'super-creepy'. My creep-resistance has increased a great deal over the last few years." Wait. "How long are you back on Earth for?"

"'couple weeks. Make sure Tora remembers what I look like. See if I can get my head 'round some of what Lantern Priest was tellin' me."

"He is the second best Green Lantern ever. You could learn a lot from him."

He grins. "Second best Green Lantern, huh?"

"I… Actually got around to watching Clarissi Dox fight a little while ago. You know how Lantern Kreon makes constructs that stay there for a second and then vanish because they've done what he needed them for?"

"Yeah?" He looks mildly curious. "Dox does that?"

"It doesn't even stick around for long enough for you to see it. I used to think that a fight between me and him would be a coin toss." I shake my head. "No. I thrash him in raw power, but it would not matter. And that trick Priest has of charging without a personal lantern, I can do that now."

"Yeah, me too. You know he told Hal that he'd need a couple centuries to get good enough to do that?"

I grin. "Optimistic, was he?"

"Puttin' it mildly. But serious, what's with no-face?"

"The League got given extraordinary power-. Extraordinary political power to fix Earth. Batman decided to found his own planetary police force. That was one of their phone operators."

"They gunna be telling me what t'do? I don't f-."

"No. But they can suggest things that could benefit from your attention without tying up a League member on communications duty."

"Like a secretary?"

"Perhaps. But less personal. I'm not completely sure how it's going to work in practice."

"Huh. Weird. But okay, I guess. So what you been up to?"
 
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"I… Actually got around to watching Clarissi Dox fight a little while ago. You know how Lantern Kreon makes construct that stay there for a second and then vanish because they're done what he need them for?"
That should say 'constructs'.

"It doesn't even stick around for long enough for you to see it. I used to think that a fight between me and him would be a coin toss." I shake my head. "No. I thrash him in raw power, but it would not matter. And that trick Priest has of charging without a personal lantern, I can do that now."

"Yeah, me too. You know he told Hal that he'd need a couple' centuries to get good enough to do that?"
I'm a little surprised they got that trick off screen. I suppose being enlightened helped them with that?
 
"Of course, sir. That's part of the reason why I wear a full face mask. I could come from any country or ethnic group and no one could know. We can represent all nations."

And none, naturally

Yeah, the lack of a face helps with a lack of accountability to civilians.

"What about your accent?"

"Since we're essentially using a power ring translation system, it's simple to turn that into whatever the person we're speaking to thinks is appropriate for a functionary

So they can change their accent to something that the listener would find pleasing, or displeasure if they're trying to provoke them.

"Thank you, sir. The only other matter of local concern is the location of The Question. He hasn't been seen for a considerable amount of time. While turning Hub City into an agricultural manufacturing hub is the most useful thing you could be working on, it would also be useful if he could be located

Wonder if he's investigating things.

"I'm not sure that I'd call it 'super-creepy

You're not the best judge for what is and isn't creepy.

And that trick Priest has of charging without a personal lantern, I can do that now."

I'm guessing that because you're both so connected to you respective planes that you can just draw it from there.
 
"Oh, that's simple, sir. Between Batman's power ring and the Apokoliptian technology build into this station, there's very little on Earth that we can't communicate with."
'built'
Thought this was Alfred at first.
"I… Actually got around to watching Clarissi Dox fight a little while ago. You know how Lantern Kreon makes construct that stay there for a second and then vanish because they're done what he need them for?"
'they've'
'needed'
"It doesn't even stick around for long enough for you to see it. I used to think that a fight between me and him would be a coin toss." I shake my head. "No. I thrash him in raw power, but it would not matter. And that trick Priest has of charging without a personal lantern, I can do that now."

"Yeah, me too. You know he told Hal that he'd need a couple' centuries to get good enough to do that?"
Extraneous apostrophe?
or
'couple'a'?
I always wondered how important intelligence would be to a power ring user, and whether an overwhelming advantage would be enough to let Dox win a fight. Glad to see that answered.
 
Ah, continuing the Alice theme, I see. I foresee this tying a lot more strongly into the Hatter's status and present location and activities, said title is a comment about the populace of Wonderland, said by the Cheshire Cat concerning the Hatter...

I stare in confusion at the masked face construct hovering over my ring.

"Forget 'how did you get this number?'. How are you even talking to me?"
...Interesting. You'd think the Ring would have something as simple as a spam filter. Or was this call made with high authority?

"Oh, that's simple, sir. Between Batman's power ring and the Apokoliptian technology build into this station, there's very little on Earth that we can't communicate with."

Huh. I hadn't realised that those could interface in that direction.
The worry is if it works both ways. Could a New God memetic Narrative attack backflow into the Rings?

"Alright, ah… Who are you?"

"I am a Peace Agent, sir. As you observed yourself, having one man -or even two- oversee the reconstruction of a planet isn't a viable method."

"So in addition to the field agents like Mister Blank, we've got additional administrators."
Makes sense. I expect there's medical staff too, to oversee the care of the field agents and the superhero community, who often have special medical needs.

"Just so, sir. Batman and Mister Atom oversee our work, but unlike before other members of the Justice League could step into their roles. My role is to identify areas of need, and contact Justice League associated assets in order to meet those needs. I can also handle discussions with other agencies concerning operational matters, though obviously higher level negotiations would need to be handled either by Batman or a designated member of the Justice League."
Well, I see they have considered the possibility of either top man being nobbled. And the delegation makes it easier to distribute the authority needed.

"Mister Blank mentioned that he'd had his memories removed. Do you..? Did you have that done?"

"Of course, sir. That's part of the reason why I wear a full face mask. I could come from any country or ethnic group and no one could know. We can represent all nations."
...Well, that isn't worrying at all. What if some of them get subverted somehow?

And none, naturally.

"What about your accent?"
Or lack of one, given they could be from anywhere. I bet there's even an aspect of it that can obscure their gender, to make them even more anonymous...

"Since we're essentially using a power ring translation system, it's simple to turn that into whatever the person we're speaking to thinks is appropriate for a functionary. I imagine that you're hearing me enunciate in the manner of an English butler."

"Close." Hm. "So, is there something that you want me to do?"
Huh. Well, it's a clever use of the system. But could be another avenue for subversion. Who's to say what they're saying and what is heard are the same thing, after all?

"No. This is simply one of a long list of introductory calls I will be making today to acclimatise people to the system that the Global Peace Agency will be using going forwards."

"So are you 'my' Global Peace Agent?"

"No, sir. We're completely interchangeable. Any of us can contact you as needed, and you won't know the difference."
Heh. Effectively a first-day orientation session, then. But still... Anyone could contact him using their disguise. I hope they included unforgeable security certifications.

"Okay. That's a bit weird, but obviously… Availability is going to be a bit random, and I can see how it's useful to make sure that there's no loss of efficiency if one of you is busy…"

"Oh, that's not why, sir. We at the Global Peace Agency don't believe in personal attachment. That's why I don't have a face or accent."
Okay, that's going just a bit past the pale. Why would they decide such a thing? Was it unanimous?

"That's a bit strange, but I suppose that's true of Hub City's last two superheroes. Is there anything that you need me to do right now?"

"Not at the moment. Your work in bringing Hub City to full functionality takes precedence. However, Justice League affiliate Squire relayed your idea to increase the number of nuclear power plants worldwide, and that's received approval. Orders have been sent out for construction work and raw materials, so in a few weeks we'd like you to collect the fuel rods."
Hopefully not just OL. Though it is fitting he'd be hauling some of the first loads, given it was his idea.

"A few weeks? Feeling optimistic?"

"The time line is perfectly possible to achieve with new technologies being properly leveraged."
...And what would those be? I would expect it involves rapid construction methods, but there are hard limits on some things, like the drying rates of mortar or concrete. Unless Power Rings are involved...

"Alright. Yes, I can be available for courier duty."

"Thank you, sir. The only other matter of local concern is the location of The Question. He hasn't been seen for a considerable amount of time. While turning Hub City into an agricultural manufacturing hub is the most useful thing you could be working on, it would also be useful if he could be located."
I'm impressed he could just disappear like that. I guess he checked himself out of whatever medical facility they were holding him in and went 'poof' like he'd never been.

"I'll keep an eye out. Anything else?"

"Not at this time, sir. Thank you for your time."
That's gonna take some getting used to...

The head disappears, and I…

Huh.
I mean, OL, you kinda suggested something like this way back. Like you told the League, a mere couple of dozen people can't protect the world by themselves.

The J.L.I. maintained a team structure. Obviously there were people who weren't superheroes in support roles, but they didn't do hero management. From what I remember of the Earth 12 Justice League… Same sort of thing. The staff were just maintenance, communications and… Canteen? Medical? Something like that.
Probably because of the implicit independence of costumed vigilantes in the first place. A fair few of them don't really take being told what to do well.

This is novel.

Incoming message from Honour Guard Lantern Guy Gardner.

Answer.
Oh, hey, Guy! Been a while since we saw him.

Guy's face takes the place recently abandoned by the Peace Agent. He's frowning disconcertedly. "Hey Paul, did you just get a super-creepy message from a guy with no face?"

"
I'm not sure that I'd call it 'super-creepy'. My creep-resistance has increased a great deal over the last few years." Wait. "How long are you back on Earth for?"
Sounds a bit of a leap, but given they called him, he'd mostly likely have been on Earth at that moment.

"'couple weeks. Make sure Tora remembers what I look like. See if I can get my head 'round some of what Lantern Priest was tellin' me."

"
He is the second best Green Lantern ever. You could learn a lot from him."
...Who was his first-place, again? Medphyll for his comportment? EDIT: Ah, Lord Malvolio, whose raw power and remarkable applications of Will are very impressive...

He grins. "Second best Green Lantern, huh?"

"
I… Actually got around to watching Clarissi Dox fight a little while ago. You know how Lantern Kreon makes construct that stay there for a second and then vanish because they're done what he need them for?"
That's an impressive display of rapid formation and deconstruction, then.

"Yeah?" He looks mildly curious. "Dox does that?"

"
It doesn't even stick around for long enough for you to see it. I used to think that a fight between me and him would be a coin toss." I shake my head. "No. I thrash him in raw power, but it would not matter. And that trick Priest has of charging without a personal lantern, I can do that now."
Although, if you had the opening, you could pull the 'You will not use my Light' trick the Ophidian does.

"Yeah, me too. You know he told Hal that he'd need a couple' centuries to get good enough to do that?"

I grin. "Optimistic, was he?"
Hey, Hal isn't that bad. At least he isn't the habitually-concussed, ever-jobbing Superfriends Hal. Or the original comics. Man, how many times did he get knocked about?

"Puttin' it mildly. But serious, what's with no-face?"

"
The League got given extraordinary power-. Extraordinary political power to fix Earth. Batman decided to found his own planetary police force. That was one of their phone operators."
...Oh, yeah, Guy and Hal have probably been offworld during all that.

"They gunna be telling me what t'do? I don't f-."

"
No. But they can suggest things that could benefit from your attention without tying up a League member on communications duty."
Kind of like a superheroic version of 911, effectively.

"Like a secretary?"

"
Perhaps. But less personal. I'm not completely sure how it's going to work in practice."

"Huh. Weird. But okay, I guess. So what you been up to?"
Nice how easily Guy rolls with it. 'Huh, that's weird. Anyway, how you been, bud?'

I suppose Guy's probably more accustomed to a central dispatch contact, from the Corps. While mostly a Lantern is just supposed to patrol, surely their Clarissi would alert them to notable emergency situations. And hopefully this will lead to better organisation during disasters and emergencies for Earth's Heroes, uncomfortable with it as some may be about it...
 
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Reappearing my question from before, why don't they ask the tamarians or the thanagarians for help?
 
That should say 'constructs'.
'built'
'they've'
'needed'
Thank you, corrected.
Extraneous apostrophe?
or
'couple'a'?
I'm not sure if it's correct to use an apostrophe to replace a whole word. Guy isn't saying anything between 'couple' and 'centuries'.
I always wondered how important intelligence would be to a power ring user, and whether an overwhelming advantage would be enough to let Dox win a fight. Glad to see that answered.
Fighting Dox is odd, because it forces you to fight in a stupid way that you've probably trained yourself out of. Normally, it's good to detect threats and respond efficiently, but against him you can't. You're forced to put up a general defence all of the time.
...Who was his first-place, again? Medphyll for his comportment?
Lord Malvolio. By a lot.
 
The worry is if it works both ways. Could a New God memetic Narrative attack backflow into the Rings?

It can.

After renegade branded Desaad, Darkseid used the Omega Beams to get rid of it.

He was almost able to take control of renegade's ring.

And what would those be? I would expect it involves rapid construction methods, but there are hard limits on some things, like the drying rates of mortar or concrete. Unless Power Rings are involved...

I'm guessing that they're finally utilizing various pieces of schizo tech.

Who was his first-place, again? Medphyll for his comportment?

Malvollio.

Reappearing my question from before, why don't they ask the tamarians or the thanagarians for help?

The Tamaraneans may still be rebuilding their own civilization, so they wouldn't really be able to help.

The Thanagarians are imperialistic and would take over the planet if they came.
 
Reappearing my question from before, why don't they ask the tamarians or the thanagarians for help?
The Tamaraneans may still be rebuilding their own civilization, so they wouldn't really be able to help.

The Thanagarians are imperialistic and would take over the planet if they came.
Sort of. Tamaran doesn't really have the spare resources, and they're a fairly long way away. Thanagar at this point is reluctant to spread themselves that wide, especially if it means getting involved in Earth shenanigans.
 
Strange way to go about creating a spooky organization. The congregation's infiltration was way better, having obviously identifiable local liaisons kept in the dark, a clear and reachable personality in charge, and a door gooder message.

Maybe that's the point? The congregation might be putting people off "a local friendly face"?
 
"Thank you, sir. The only other matter of local concern is the location of The Question. He hasn't been seen for a considerable amount of time. While turning Hub City into an agricultural manufacturing hub is the most useful thing you could be working on, it would also be useful if he could be located."
Oh yeah the question is exactly the kind of parapsychic likely to get bowled over by the anti-life. Do wonder if there's an interesting direction to go with what he's doing and what say, john and the synchronicity pilgrims do. - Now I'm half expecting he's one of John's empowerees.

"I… Actually got around to watching Clarissi Dox fight a little while ago. You know how Lantern Kreon makes constructs that stay there for a second and then vanish because they've done what he needed them for?"

"Yeah?"
He looks mildly curious. "Dox does that?"

"
It doesn't even stick around for long enough for you to see it. I used to think that a fight between me and him would be a coin toss." I shake my head. "No. I thrash him in raw power, but it would not matter."
Maybe? I feel like even then the deciding factor would be how much his advantages translate when paul can just nope out of there into the honden and attack from there. It's probably possible to boom tube the honden but I'd expect his advantages to apply a good deal less in there, and it's possible he could lose him and just attack from 'out of range'. But yeah woof that's a nasty thing to even try to fight.
That being said, it's hardly a suprise, in a way - even krona with what was probably a degraded guardian body had something similar that he definitely would have expected to lose to 1v1.
"And that trick Priest has of charging without a personal lantern, I can do that now."

"Yeah, me too. You know he told Hal that he'd need a couple centuries to get good enough to do that?"


I grin. "Optimistic, was he?"

"Puttin' it mildly. But serious, what's with no-face?"
Hype! This does seem like it's a good step towards green lantern corps continuity planning - if guy (and hopefully chaselon) can learn a trick like that that gives more options for limited functionality of the corps. Also glad to see that there's a second super lantern available to help protect earth - seems like there's certain esoteric forces that are best dealt with by that that would be very difficult to replace. I hope if he's gotten that down that he's close to getting down the 'giant green door' trick (or something like it, since it seems like that might be a particular quirky manifestation of Malvolio rather then 'the green way to do it'), since at least the way paul does it seems to suggest that the recharge trick is very much about interfacing with the honden's connections to physical reality in a related way to the teleportation trick. Though I wouldn't be suprised if priest's trich has a basis other then the central power battery, given his attitude.
and yeah, good to see guy again.
- Now I'm curious about the green lantern 'power rankings'. malvolio, priest, guy, chaselon, probably? Not sure how the guardians compare to malvolio in adeptness with the more esosteric elements of the green light - paul has a higher mastery of the spiritual component of the orange light then the orange bonded-controllers, but the dynamic could very easily be different given how long the guardians have been working with the green light compared to the controllers.[/quote]
I'm a little surprised they got that trick off screen. I suppose being enlightened helped them with that?
We saw him do his own version of it here.
This should be doable. I recreated Larfleeze's ring from pure avarice because it had existed for so long that it imprinted on it. My personal lantern has only been orange for a couple of years, but the orange light fountain has existed about as long as his ring. Not sure if Hinon dismantled it as part of building the Orange Central Power Battery, but the imprint should still be there.

I make a fist with my right hand and raise it slightly, contemplating the ring.

And it should be tied to this ring.

Just outside the-. Ooooh. It's actually a little easier to see things here without straining. No, no, not the desires of individual people. I want to see the distortion left by an object, things not tied to a particular person or mindset. A device that used to cage the Ophidian. There are Kon's desires and Cernunnos's desires and Tlaltecuhtli's desires and pull out pull out pull all the way out. There's the whole of the orange but it doesn't all flow from the desires of individuals. Behind that, there's the desires of groups, species, things existing beyond the individual. But aside from that, there are structures which emerge from the thing itself…

I reach out with my right hand and touch my ring to the structure.

This is my cause, this is my fight,
Shine through the void with orange light,
I've claimed all within my sight,
To keep what is mine, that is my right.


Something moves, and the previously empty ring becomes full again as I return to the realm of the gods and toss Kon a replacement kinetic barrier.
 
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Strange way to go about creating a spooky organization.

Who would think that Batman, a man mainlining yellow power ring, would create a spooky organization?

Maybe? I feel like even then the deciding factor would be how much his advantages translate when paul can just nope out of there into the honden and attack from there.

Paul doesn't use short range honden teleportation nearly as much in fights as I would have thought. I'm not sure exactly why not; it may be that summoning up the required mindset takes too long in a combat situation.


More teasing of the Mad Hatter. If wonder if the reason he's disappeared is that Batman has him in a lab somewhere building... something.

"No. This is simply one of a long list of introductory calls I will be making today to acclimatise people to the system that the Global Peace Agency will be using going forwards."

I wonder if the GPA will issue a secure communicator to people who don't already have them. Not like everyone ha a power ring to call in the first place.

The J.L.I. maintained a team structure. Obviously there were people who weren't superheroes in support roles, but they didn't do hero management. From what I remember of the Earth 12 Justice League… Same sort of thing. The staff were just maintenance, communications and… Canteen? Medical? Something like that.

Is that meant to be JLI as in he's thinking of some version of the Justice League International from comics/media, or was that supposed to be "J.S.I" for the Justice Society International he met in that one parallel?

I recall the JSI having an army of super cyborgs which seem kind of close to the GPA. Though weirdly in some ways the JSI was actually more hierarchical. Commander Scott was officially in charge, though he answered to a Board sort of like a CEO. Despite all the authority that Batman has taken for himself, he's not officially "in charge" of the Justice League and has not claimed the right to order any League members around. Merely to make suggestions and requests.

"Just so, sir. Batman and Mister Atom oversee our work, but unlike before other members of the Justice League could step into their roles

"No. But they can suggest things that could benefit from your attention without tying up a League member on communications duty."

"Like a secretary?"

I think what's most unclear is to what degree requests can flow in the other direction. Other members of the League "could" oversee the Peace Agents. Does that mean that theoretically Batman could hand that authority over, or does it mean that the Peace Agents will take supervision and/or orders from any League member? If Plastic Man calls up the GPA and tells them he wants something done, does he have to justify it as a request or do they assume he knows what he's doing and comply?
 
You know... You'd really think the rest of the league would be more concerned given this is just the Justifiers by another name...

I know, right? Granted, the difference here is that unlike the Justifiers, these people are (apparenty) willing volunteers, so maybe that's why the League is okay with it?

"It doesn't even stick around for long enough for you to see it. I used to think that a fight between me and him would be a coin toss." I shake my head. "No. I thrash him in raw power, but it would not matter. And that trick Priest has of charging without a personal lantern, I can do that now."

Makes sense. For all intents and purposes, Dox is like an ultra-advanced alien supercomputer, so his brain must be able to process thoughts and information much faster than human brains can. Being able to create constructs and make them last exactly as long as he needs them to must come easier to him than Paul or Guy.

Although, this begs the question: Can Lantern Priest do it? He's an enlightened lantern who has been using the green light for at least centuries, so can he make constructs last only as long as they need to, like Kreon and Dox can with their own constructs?

"Thank you, sir. The only other matter of local concern is the location of The Question. He hasn't been seen for a considerable amount of time. While turning Hub City into an agricultural manufacturing hub is the most useful thing you could be working on, it would also be useful if he could be located."

Maybe he's working with Anarky? I don't know what this version of The Question is like, but if he's anything like in the comics or the DCAU, I could see him take this version of Lonnie under his wing as an unofficial sidekick.
 
How do we know they were willing? They had their memories erased.
Batman may be going into some dangerous territory, but he probably isn't crazy enough to give enhancements to people that were unwilling, since if their conditioning is somehow undone then he has to face them.
 

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