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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

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Mr Zoat said:
Oooh. Sailor Venus. Sailor Mercury like the planet! Sailor Moon-. I… Suddenly wish I actually knew something about the series.
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Wait. Paul pushed Artemis into wearing a canonically accurate SM costume… and he isn't even a fan of the series?

I mean, I bounced off the first episode hard, and know basically all of what I know about it from Dungeon Keeper Ami, the Dark Lords of Nerima, and of course, Ryuugi and his rants/fics like Queen of the Moon and Lovehammer. Not really knowing SM isn't really a flaw, however many people feel it's a classic. But he insisted on keeping her skirt short and it wasn't even fandom pedantry?

I mean, I guess it was regular pedantry, but damn, early Paul and Artemis were creepy as fuck, huh? Even once the Wager Incident was over.

It's probably for the best that she never finds out his real age.
 
NightmareWarden said:
I wish I'd watched Sailor Moon (subbed?) instead of Negima as a boy. I'm not sure if I'd give up much of the other Funimation shows that introduced me to anime...
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Negima is actually peak, the problem is that the anime is a shit adaptation that only focused on the first volume of the manga and played the pervert angle way too hard in order to sell figurines.


My avatar is literally the best character in Negima and amongst my favorite characters in fiction and I compare him to the likes of Flash or Spiderman.
 
boo600 said:
Wait. Paul pushed Artemis into wearing a canonically accurate SM costume… and he isn't even a fan of the series?
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He didn't push her, he offered and she didn't think it would be quite that accurate.
Not really knowing SM isn't really a flaw, however many people feel it's a classic. But he insisted on keeping her skirt short and it wasn't even fandom pedantry?
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View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23_WMMZV6m0
 
CrazyNoVa said:
Maybe it IS schlock for those female authors, and they're attracted to men who are much older than themselves?
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Older men, besides being physically larger and more powerful than boys, are more mature, have found their purpose, have established roles in society, have experience in sex and relationships, have houses and cars and a 401k. They have also had time to live off screen that could make them interesting or mysterious.

This is why the 300 year old vampire is the ideal mate most women are looking for. He keeps his youthful vitality and virility on top of all the benefits of age.
 
CrazyNoVa said:
What is it with Sailor Scouts having (usually) one-sided crushes on men who are too old for them? Is it like a tradition, or something?

Come to think of it, didn't the main heroine of Cardcaptor Sakura also initially have a crush on a boy who was way too old for her too? Is this a common occurence for Magical Girls?
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timeForced said:
I would say it's old male writers writing schlock for themselves but I think most of the seinen genre and magical girl writers are actually women so...I guess that fantasy isn't as one sided as I thought?
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CrazyNoVa said:
Maybe it IS schlock for those female authors, and they're attracted to men who are much older than themselves?
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It's not at all uncommon for younger women to be interested in older men, the reasons for such are sometimes debated amongst psychologists, but the usual explanation is that older men tend to be wealthier and more stable, thus making them better propositions than younger men who haven't gotten their shit together yet.

Rebu said:
I had the impression that having crushes on older people was fairly common for teenagers in general.

Yes, that includes me. Even though I didn't recognize it at the time.
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It's less common with younger men towards older women, but definitely by no means unheard of.
 
As long as the Silver Crystal is undamaged and Sailor Moon is alive, then this is still fixable thanks to deus ex machina rules.
 
GhostKing 666 said:
Why would Pluto have a contingency? She's not a seer nor is she manipulating events to reach a desired outcome. That's all fanon. Her job is to guard the Door of Space and Time(which is a means of time travel only) and protect the Silver Millennium from extra-dimensional threats and from those who would reach it across time.
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Such as the SI that ended up there?
 
Coltsguy said:
As long as the Silver Crystal is undamaged and Sailor Moon is alive, then this is still fixable thanks to deus ex machina rules.
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Sailor Moon was barely able to survive doing what she did in canon, if she tries to reverse things after this long she would realistically go the way of Queen Serenity.

And that would mean Pharaoh 90 or Galaxia destroy Earth.
 
Yeah it is legitimately hard to imagine how they're getting out of this situation in a way that isn't futile thanks to what happens later, unless Usagi is actually still alive somehow or can be revived.
 
Well, there's the Out Of Context options

Say....Tossing the offending Queen into the Bleed to be devoured by the Chaos between Realities...given we got that checkov's gun with their passage to this universe.
Then there's the Not Local magic using Elf that might have a short circuit for things....if the Sailor Scouts are Dead, well...that's just very late first aid to a Necromancer.
I'm rather hoping some Other Paul comes wandering by for unrelated reasons and goes 'not this again'. The Yellow Protector one was messing with an alternative earth when he wasn't having adventures with the thundercats, and there is of course Blue Power Ring wandering about.
And of course Maz and Angelica are powers in their own right, and are SOMEWHERE here abouts. And they are not the types to be Damsels in Distress.
 
Chojin Patriarch said:
Ah, the blonde bastard. Seriously, unless he was a mean one before the change, the darkness really made him nasty.
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IIRC, the Four Heavenly Kings were at least heavily implied, if not outright stated, to have been Prince Endymion's best buds squad in the Previous, Far Past Before Time.

So yeah, presumably Zoisite got the short end of the corruption stick even compared to his peers.
 
Vaermina said:
Sailor Moon was barely able to survive doing what she did in canon, if she tries to reverse things after this long she would realistically go the way of Queen Serenity.

And that would mean Pharaoh 90 or Galaxia destroy Earth.
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If it gets done in the same manner, yeah, but that's why we've got Paul here.
 
CrazyNoVa said:
Come to think of it, didn't the main heroine of Cardcaptor Sakura also initially have a crush on a boy who was way too old for her too? Is this a common occurence for Magical Girls?
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Oh, the fucking charts you need for Cardcaptor Sakura.

So let's start with Sakura.

She, age ten btw, had a crush on her brother's boyfriend Yukito.

Incidentally, Sakura's eventual love interest, Li Syaoran also had a crush on Yukito.

Meanwhile, Sakura's best friend Tomoyo has a crush on her.

As the cast expands, you get more and more unrequited love and ties of affection and attraction. Like, for example, Tomoyo's mother was in love with Sakura's mother and in turn hates her father as the man who "stole" her away.
 
Coltsguy said:
If it gets done in the same manner, yeah, but that's why we've got Paul here.
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There's nothing Orange Lantern should be able to do unless Zoat rewrites how several things work.

The Silver Crystal is an Infinity Gem level artifact, its so far above anything he's ever dealt with he shouldn't even have any inkling of where to start.
 
Chaoswind said:
Negima is actually peak, the problem is that the anime is a shit adaptation that only focused on the first volume of the manga and played the pervert angle way too hard in order to sell figurines.
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Eh, the second Anime is a good and very funny Anime, it's just a crap adaptation.
 
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