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So Renegad's ally and subordinate defeated one of his enemies in his name and for his benefit?
That's basically conquest.
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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)
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So Renegad's ally and subordinate defeated one of his enemies in his name and for his benefit?
That's basically conquest.
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Which doesn't really matter given Paul had already been destroyed at that point.
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Except for the fact that he was still in Grayven and Artemis managed to pull him out until he took over.
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Paul was destroyed the same way the Ophidian was destroyed when Paragon merged with her. You keep harping on this but it's just not how it works and demonstrably not what happened in the story. They merged. Had Artemis not done what she did it's entirely possible that original Grayven would have won out and yes, consumed Renegade, but she tore apart his soul in a way specifically designed to help Renegade which allowed him to take over the body.
And this is reminding how much I liked their interactions and miss them. Hope she shows up again soon
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Victory via a valued ally is still victory, even in the face of a personal defeat. Renegade won vs Local Gravyen, even if it was Via Artemis. Friendship IS Magic after all.
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20th August 2013
11:08 GMT -7
"Sinestro?"
"I can't detect them, Lantern Grayven."
"Why not? Neither of them use stealth equipment."
"I don't know. My first guess would be some manner of device which disrupts power ring scans over a wide area, but few civilisations have ever developed such a technology and none of them would have a reason to leave it on a barren world like this."
"You don't think this is a qwardian testing planet, do you? Apokolips has a few places we leave fallow to train parademons on."
"I can detect qwa matter. It's fairly distinctive. And while I can't promise you that I can detect every form of matter/anti-matter transition technology they could invent, I can't detect any sign of the known ones. Besides, the qwardians are not a subtle people."
I nod. "A giant snake isn't very subtle." But he's right. And copying an alien's work? I'm not sure there's enough money in the universe for even a mercantilist like Varnathon to accept that. "And where did it go?"
"Are we certain that it wasn't a multi-sensory illusion of some kind?"
I hold out my right hand. Come
The remains of my daiklave fly into my hand, grip delivering itself into my palm and what's left of the blade jutting out sadly from the guard.
"Something broke this off. Something tougher than my armour."
"Do you believe that it was a Provider created with New God technology?
"No, because that's nonsense. Tron lines are part of how our machines channel our divine power. There are plenty of engineered monsters on Apokolips, but they don't look like that. Even our independent robots don't have them."
"So we're back to an illusion. Or a projection with a physical component.
"Alright, but I hit something."
"Programmable matter?"
"All programmable matter systems I know about have limits. And not trying to sniff my own farts here, but I'm pretty strong. Tanking the daiklave and vanishing when I used the Sword of the Fallen? No system I know could do that."
"Which leaves magic."
"A known issue with a thaumically active world, not one that should be a problem with one that's uninhabited."
"Why assume that we would be able to detect the magician better than we could the Provider?"
"Because that's not how conjuring works. Summoning something that powerful would require it to already exist in the thaumosphere, and then a ritual to bring it forth. We all recognised it as a Provider, and I can tell that the thaumosphere is blank. A really powerful and skilful magician might have been able to pull something right out of the Dream, but the chance of a Dream manifestation being that powerful and looking exactly like a Provider is… Basically zero. Morpheus himself couldn't do that."
"Are you certain that we're on the planet?"
"Are you asking me if I'm dreaming?"
"Or if we could have physically entered the Dream."
"Theoretically possible, except that I've been resonating with other New Gods, and Luna isn't here. Resonances can occur when one party is asleep, but since they can't consciously respond it feels very different. And Luna can enter my dreams whether she's asleep or awake."
"As I recall it, she still has yet to pay you back for that 'disappearing star' trick."
Um.
He's right, unless you count-.
"No, I'm pretty sure that whole retirement village thing was supposed to be a prank. I think I was a reasonable sport about playing along, but I don't… I don't think she'd use a cannibal snake for something like that."
"What, then?"
"I don't know." I start walking in the direction of the impact crater. "I do know that we're lucky that Iname speaks good English."
"And that I do."
I frown. "Translation is down for you, too?"
"Relk tan chall dan."
"Sorry, I never learned Korugari."
"That's not what the language is called."
"See?"
Okay, Iname should be at the impact site now. She'll do a visual assessment at high speed, find… Probably nothing, and then move in for a closer look. There shouldn't be much there; an impact that size doesn't leave a crater so much as mountains, but if there is then she's got sensor goggles and her own New God abilities. Magic users generally struggle with the combination of speed and exotic resistance.
I'm more worried about Persuader.
She's tough and armoured, but that's it. For a magician who can conjure monsters, she's an easy target.
I look at the broken remains of my most recent daiklave again. And then I toss it away.
Okay, the atomic axe should survive better, but…
"Luna?! If this is a prank, you have outdone yourself! Well done! I am genuinely worried!"
"I don't think that's likely."
"Me neither."
"I can understand not flying if you fear that the flight aura of your rings and your aero-discs might stop working, but why are you walking at a normal pace?"
"So I don't miss anything. And so that Persuader can catch up."
"Given the way she vanished, I suspect that whatever mind directed that magic manifestation is more likely to blame than her getting lost on a flat piece of rock a few metres from your position."
"I agree. Still, even if she was dragged into some sort of pocket universe, she should be able to cut her way out with the atomic axe. But…"
Yeah, if she didn't do that right away, then she's probably not going to.
I shrug, lean forwards and start to r-.
The clouds above me part, stars beyond them seem to wheel, a shape manifesting from the night sky.
It's-.
"Luna?" I stare up at her, dumbstruck. "It actually was you? Damn, I'm-."
The blast from her horn hits me in the chest, smashing me to the ground!
"Die, butcher!"
11:08 GMT -7
"Sinestro?"
"I can't detect them, Lantern Grayven."
"Why not? Neither of them use stealth equipment."
"I don't know. My first guess would be some manner of device which disrupts power ring scans over a wide area, but few civilisations have ever developed such a technology and none of them would have a reason to leave it on a barren world like this."
"You don't think this is a qwardian testing planet, do you? Apokolips has a few places we leave fallow to train parademons on."
"I can detect qwa matter. It's fairly distinctive. And while I can't promise you that I can detect every form of matter/anti-matter transition technology they could invent, I can't detect any sign of the known ones. Besides, the qwardians are not a subtle people."
I nod. "A giant snake isn't very subtle." But he's right. And copying an alien's work? I'm not sure there's enough money in the universe for even a mercantilist like Varnathon to accept that. "And where did it go?"
"Are we certain that it wasn't a multi-sensory illusion of some kind?"
I hold out my right hand. Come
The remains of my daiklave fly into my hand, grip delivering itself into my palm and what's left of the blade jutting out sadly from the guard.
"Something broke this off. Something tougher than my armour."
"Do you believe that it was a Provider created with New God technology?
"No, because that's nonsense. Tron lines are part of how our machines channel our divine power. There are plenty of engineered monsters on Apokolips, but they don't look like that. Even our independent robots don't have them."
"So we're back to an illusion. Or a projection with a physical component.
"Alright, but I hit something."
"Programmable matter?"
"All programmable matter systems I know about have limits. And not trying to sniff my own farts here, but I'm pretty strong. Tanking the daiklave and vanishing when I used the Sword of the Fallen? No system I know could do that."
"Which leaves magic."
"A known issue with a thaumically active world, not one that should be a problem with one that's uninhabited."
"Why assume that we would be able to detect the magician better than we could the Provider?"
"Because that's not how conjuring works. Summoning something that powerful would require it to already exist in the thaumosphere, and then a ritual to bring it forth. We all recognised it as a Provider, and I can tell that the thaumosphere is blank. A really powerful and skilful magician might have been able to pull something right out of the Dream, but the chance of a Dream manifestation being that powerful and looking exactly like a Provider is… Basically zero. Morpheus himself couldn't do that."
"Are you certain that we're on the planet?"
"Are you asking me if I'm dreaming?"
"Or if we could have physically entered the Dream."
"Theoretically possible, except that I've been resonating with other New Gods, and Luna isn't here. Resonances can occur when one party is asleep, but since they can't consciously respond it feels very different. And Luna can enter my dreams whether she's asleep or awake."
"As I recall it, she still has yet to pay you back for that 'disappearing star' trick."
Um.
He's right, unless you count-.
"No, I'm pretty sure that whole retirement village thing was supposed to be a prank. I think I was a reasonable sport about playing along, but I don't… I don't think she'd use a cannibal snake for something like that."
"What, then?"
"I don't know." I start walking in the direction of the impact crater. "I do know that we're lucky that Iname speaks good English."
"And that I do."
I frown. "Translation is down for you, too?"
"Relk tan chall dan."
"Sorry, I never learned Korugari."
"That's not what the language is called."
"See?"
Okay, Iname should be at the impact site now. She'll do a visual assessment at high speed, find… Probably nothing, and then move in for a closer look. There shouldn't be much there; an impact that size doesn't leave a crater so much as mountains, but if there is then she's got sensor goggles and her own New God abilities. Magic users generally struggle with the combination of speed and exotic resistance.
I'm more worried about Persuader.
She's tough and armoured, but that's it. For a magician who can conjure monsters, she's an easy target.
I look at the broken remains of my most recent daiklave again. And then I toss it away.
Okay, the atomic axe should survive better, but…
"Luna?! If this is a prank, you have outdone yourself! Well done! I am genuinely worried!"
"I don't think that's likely."
"Me neither."
"I can understand not flying if you fear that the flight aura of your rings and your aero-discs might stop working, but why are you walking at a normal pace?"
"So I don't miss anything. And so that Persuader can catch up."
"Given the way she vanished, I suspect that whatever mind directed that magic manifestation is more likely to blame than her getting lost on a flat piece of rock a few metres from your position."
"I agree. Still, even if she was dragged into some sort of pocket universe, she should be able to cut her way out with the atomic axe. But…"
Yeah, if she didn't do that right away, then she's probably not going to.
I shrug, lean forwards and start to r-.
The clouds above me part, stars beyond them seem to wheel, a shape manifesting from the night sky.
It's-.
"Luna?" I stare up at her, dumbstruck. "It actually was you? Damn, I'm-."
The blast from her horn hits me in the chest, smashing me to the ground!
"Die, butcher!"
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Ah, so one of those places that pulls things out of your head.
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Its Planet Silent Hill!
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I enjoyed them thinking through what could possibly be happening. Good chapter.
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Is someone attacking the Renegade for Grayven's actions?
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Not ruling out the 'illusion strong enough to fool Power Rings' theory just yet. But it would have to be a very powerful illusion indeed. It's got to be something different... Something the Renegade hasn't encountered before...
That could account for the environmental damage, and the new thaumosphere, but there's be traces of such a source.
...Huh, I guess my mental image of the Provider was off. More Mawloc than Haruspex, then.
Right, sword's still broke, despite it being cast aside. An illusion might have missed that continuity.
The question would be why? Why make something like that?
Force-field projections? They'd have to be immensely powerful to resist the Renegade at full force. At which point it'd be easier to simply crush him between two flat planes instead.
There'd be some trace of it after he stabbed it, surely?
Ah, but there's the rub. The Renegade specialised in magic, unlike OL's focus on tech and Orange Light shamanism. So he'd feel the difference, surely.
New God senses, of course. By their nature, New Gods are magical.
Though invoking his name might get his attention now. And I suspect he'd be very curious about this place too.
Not an impossible theory. There are places on Earth where that can happen, in the comics.
Even this far away? You're a long way from Wilson, after all.
I wish I could remember what that was, but I get the feeling her response would be far more clever than this.
Not really cannibalism if you're not also snakes. More predation of a very organised form...
How's the orange Ring doing, then? Or has the Renegade chosen to give up using that as much these days?
I don't know what he just said, but I'm fairly sure it was something rude.
It's a pity Ringnestro can't produce constructs by himself, or he'd be making so many rolling eye emotes...
And if she can track the caster down, if there is one, they're going to be disabled or dead before they even know she's spotted them...
Especially if said monsters are resistant to her axe. Which given their reaction to his daiklave...
That's a big if. Better hope you can sort this out quickly, Renegade.
But just in case, do offer her your compliments.
Do you really want to be hulk-leaping about when something might appear with open mouth right where you're about to land?
There is that, true. I'm sure she wouldn't have been KO'd for that long.
Unless whatever separated you also creates explosive backfires when she tries that again.
That seems concerning.
I'm mashing (X) to Doubt right now. We've seen this place create one thing out of nowhere...
Definitely not the Luna he knows, unless he's deeply afraid of some random fit of outrage and this is a manifestation of it.
Is it me, or is there a common thread forming here? Both manifestations came down out of the sky or the clouds. And it's still raining, too, isn't it? Could there be something about the water of this planet, whether it be in the oceans or the air? ...Or I could just be imaging a connection. At any rate, I expect the Renegade will find out one way or the other what's going on around here eventually...
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Thank you, corrected.
No, they enable cannibalism by feeding on members of a species and then being fed to members of that species in turn.
Please. Sinestro is entirely too professional to do something like that.
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So snide and or sarcastic, but politely.