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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

23rd July 2013
11:42 GMT


Mantis rasps disgruntledly as we appear in front of Roy and the serpentine New God, crouching behind a patch of shrubbery. Roy nods and points towards… A camouflage net.

Why a.. net?
Low-tech solution. Suggests a low-tech mind. This will be interesting to see what happens from here. Although I suspect Mantis feels like he left his lunch back at the Primitive's camp. First-time FTL transitions, am I right? 😏

A hologram would be a better disguise… If it was going to be viewed from one direction, and the user was confident that no one with precision electromagnetic sensors was around because holograms can be detected. Magic-. We're on New Genesis. The world's thaumically active, so while magic would work, the use of it would almost certainly get picked up by someone. So they.. go low-tech, and that covers it from casual observation.
Or the creator simply didn't have anything more advanced. I mean, it's entirely possible it could be some steampunk thing, forgotten for years...

Why didn't Supertown detect it? Who owns it? Why did they come here?

"What makes you think it came from Earth?"
All very good questions, especially the identification of its origins.

"I recognize the camo netting. It's NATO-standard."

The ship has landed on a patch on bare rock at the bottom of a cliff, next to the trees it's using as cover. A thin ribbon of water is flowing over the cliff nearby and flowing in a thin stream next to the ship. I can't see any defences or defenders.
Huh. Suggests a fairly modern origin, then. But who would be out here, especially this far from Earth?

Odd.

"You want it?"

Roy lifts his right arm a little, then stops. "I mean, it's a starship, so, yeah."
Assuming the current owner isn't around, anyway. They may well be.

Construct armour, heavy armour and scan in detail… I throw out orange filaments which punch through the outer cases of the dozen sensors scattered around the clearing and subvert them. And… That looks like it's it. Genetic traces in the area… A lot of New God animals. No tracks.
Huh, guess it's up for grabs, because it sounds like the last owner hasn't been around for a while. Or didn't leave any DNA traces.

Ah…

"Is there a problem?" Roy looks mildly concerned. "You're the toughest guy-."

"Just me being over cautious." I fly at a moderate pace towards the vessel. "Ahoy the ship!" Something moves under the camo netting. "Anyone-?"
Best to be polite, never know if someone's present, or possibly injured aboard.

Brilliant yellow bolts blast out from the hull! They have no difficultly at all in tracking me, but… Construct armour seems to be holding. I could attack the ship, but I am fairly intimidating and I don't want to overreact.

Instead I just fly closer. Construct armour getting mildly abraded, but not to the point where I'd actually be worried.
Indeed, casually ignoring energy blasts directed at you tends to put most people off.

"Anyone home? This is jolly unfriendly!"

The guns stop firing, the camo netting having partly burned off to reveal parts of the hull. It's gold, and I think that's a figurehead on the prow. Okay, that-.
Loose like they decided to stop wasting energy on shooting. Although... A figurehead? Flashy.

The turrets are glowing-.

Construct thrusters throw me to the side as beams of golden energy roar past me, cutting through the trees behind me and slicing a swath through the forest!

Not progress, then!
Ah, a charge attack. Might have been effective, had their target been less agile.

The turrets start charging again as construct scissors slice through the remains of the netting, revealing the art deco ship, a sort of strange cross between a galleon and a submarine. The turrets… An effort's been made to make them fit in with the style of the rest of the ship, but they clearly don't. A later addition to an unarmed ship? So I could destroy them without feeling too bad about it-. Except that if they're a later addition they might have skipped surge protectors, or there might cause the an explosion in the capacitors and I don't know for certain whether there's anyone on board or not.
Oh, I think I know what this is. Unfortunately, it's very hard to find a good picture of it...

Entry hatch seems to be on the top-.

I dart up, another volley of high powered shots shooting past me. Not designed for anti-attack craft work then. Or anti-Lantern fire. The dorsal turrets take a shot when they have one, but a simple thruster construct pushes me aside and then there's the hatch. Construct grapple, twist-. Locked. Electronic, or-? No, manual. Lock pick construct-.
Logical, given it was made in the fifties or so. Very Raygun-gothic in design, hence the figurehead.

And dodge.

If there was someone on board they'd be taking off or calling for help about now.
So you're looking at automated defences, or someone on board who can't access the navigation and flight controls. Making it all the clearer who's aboard...

Click.

Open the hatch and inside-

Bztzap!

-and I take one last shot to the face from the interior turret, which… Visible power cable. Snip that, and use a construct to siphon power just in case-.
Heh. That's almost petty, both the shot and the dismissive disabling.

That's cosmic energy. I thought the shots looked familiar. The owner's using Doctor Theodore Knight's technology. Which is notoriously safe, and… One of the few competitors that my Bleed torsion generator has as far as modern electrical generation goes. Definitely from Earth, then, because there are no records of that form of power generation from anywhere else that I've got records for.
And there we are. The original Starman, Ted Knight, created a space-vessel using his technology. I want to say it was called the 'Starfarer'? Been quite a while since I read the Trades that Starman Volume 2 was collected into... 🤔 We saw its design used in the Renegade's timeline to create Lex's spacefleet. But here...

And… He wouldn't had built in a self-destruct, but if the turrets were added…

The interior looks a little like a first class train carriage from a century ago. The furniture is carved wood and richly upholstered, but the sleeping area and galley are tiny. The control computer is…
Say what you will, Ted have a sense of style.

Is that a Mother Box?

Ping.
"Well, then. This is a fine mess. How to sort all this out, I wonder?" Not just any Mother Box, you'll find. This one...

"Ah. Well, good. Do you mind me taking control of the compu-"

Theodore Knight appears in front of me and swings at me with his fight fist!

"-tor?"
...Has a copy of a younger Ted Knight's mind imprinted on it like a personality engram.

It-. Goes through me, because it's a hologram. Why-?

Distraction. I shove filaments through the outer casing of the ship's control system and grab…
I have to wonder how much of a kludge the computers are, given it would likely have been made with vacuum tubes and...

What the heck is this? Half of it's some sort of Babbage engine, and-. Okay, that's the modern bit, take that. And… Reset the user permissions…

The Theodore Knight hologram flickers, then appears to relax, theatrically mopping his brow. "Thanks. I thought I was going to be stuck like that."
...Huh, a mechanical computer. I see someone else did the equivalent of hacking by plugging in newer tech, though.

I peer at him. "You're not Doctor Knight. He died years ago."

"Ah." The hologram nods. "I didn't know that, but I guess it's been long enough that I shouldn't be surprised. I'm a computer program designed to think and act like him."
Young, healthy in mind and hopefully not suffering any of the mental issues some versions did. At least one version of Ted took part in the Manhattan Project and its result nearly broke him.

"Pleased to meet you. What are you doing here?"

"Here? Couldn't tell you. But I've been stuck flying Vandal Savage around ever since be brought this ship out of mothballs and I'm sick of it."
Just to be specific: How long ago was this? Anytime after the last couple of years, and, well...

I sigh. "He's not dead, then?"

"He's immortal."
Why do I get the feeling he recovered, went to the ship and fucked off from Earth for a while? Perhaps in search of alien allies...

"Yes, but sometimes that doesn't stop them being killed if you're really thorough." I sigh again. "Do you know who I am?"

"You said 'Orange Lantern'. Is that anything like Green Lantern?"

I nod. "Alan Scott is one of my mentors, and a good friend."
Joy of knowing the right people.

"Do you know what my son Jack's doing now?"

"He retired from being Starman to look after his children. Aside from an emergency six months ago he mostly just runs his shop. Okay, how about you tell me what you're doing here, and I'll fill you in on everything else?"
That emergency would have been the Anti-Life, wouldn't it? Wonder if he or Shade took over Star City?

Ah, this is going to be a fun time. Stealing the ship Vandal Savage already stole, and letting Roy have some space adventures in the meantime. That does raise the question of what Vandal was doing here on New Genesis, and where he is now? Remember, he was canonically playing stupid games by working with Apokalips by Season 2. Perhaps this is how he gained a meeting?
 
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Well when they show Cadence was Twilight's babysitter Cadence does look noticeable younger.

So Cadence wasn't an adult when Twilight was a child, so yeah, I'd say Cadence and her husband are at least relatively close in age.
 
At least the technology is being used to some degree in the Paragon timeline. Guess Savage felt he actually needed it enough that setting on it just to spit an old enemy was no longer practical.

Here's hoping that Paul can make sure the technology of that ship gets replicated, modernized and started putting into use by people other than Vandal Savage.
The tech is already bring used on Earth.

I can't remember which chapter, but it was mentioned that because Paul released those Bleed generators other companies also released their own stuff.

The cosmic energy was released by Stagg Industries.
 
excellent update. and i agree that vandal savage needs assimilated... but didn't that cause Grayven to delete him or purge him from the ring somehow? something to do with an immortal's life being too big of a data packet for the human brain to absorb, and it was causing some problems. or was it the combo of assimilating both Savage and Ras AlGul and having two functionally immortal memory banks?

regardless, i do miss OL using assimilation as a weapon.

Arsenal getting Theodore Knight's ship gives me Tom Paris vibes and i'm here for it
 
excellent update. and i agree that vandal savage needs assimilated... but didn't that cause Grayven to delete him or purge him from the ring somehow? something to do with an immortal's life being too big of a data packet for the human brain to absorb, and it was causing some problems. or was it the combo of assimilating both Savage and Ras AlGul and having two functionally immortal memory banks?

regardless, i do miss OL using assimilation as a weapon.

Nope, Renegade Savage is still a construct same with Ra's (the only ones he's confirmed to have removed were Sportsmaster, Bane, and Nabu via the Sword of the Fallen). Paragon OL did mention he was going to look for non sapient creatures to assimilate after he got the Hydra Heads.
 
At least the technology is being used to some degree in the Paragon timeline. Guess Savage felt he actually needed it enough that setting on it just to spit an old enemy was no longer practical.

Here's hoping that Paul can make sure the technology of that ship gets replicated, modernized and started putting into use by people other than Vandal Savage.
I think Roscosmos actually already has at least a few ships based on that technology.
 
The turrets start charging again as construct scissors slice through the remains of the netting, revealing the art deco ship, a sort of strange cross between a galleon and a submarine. The turrets… An effort's been made to make them fit in with the style of the rest of the ship, but they clearly don't. A later addition to an unarmed ship? So I could destroy them without feeling too bad about it-. Except that if they're a later addition they might have skipped surge protectors, or there might cause the an explosion in the capacitors and I don't know for certain whether there's anyone on board or not.
'it might cause an explosion'?
And… He wouldn't had built in a self-destruct, but if the turrets were added…
'have'
"Ah. Well, good. Do you mind me taking control of the compu-"

Theodore Knight appears in front of me and swings at me with his fight fist!

"-tor?"
'right'?
'-ter?'?

The linked image made me guess we were seeing some more time travel, but Savage makes sense too. Wonder what he's up to on New Genesis.
 
"So 'Cosmic Energy' is probably one of those power sources that most species discover as party of standard technological progression, right?"

"Nope, just Earth! Nobody else knows what the fuck Cosmic Energy even is."

Earth do be crazy. I wonder if "Cosmic Energy" is another way of tapping into the Source. Source stuff seems to break the rules on not being explicable by science, but not 'magic' in that it's not tied to planetary thaumospheres.
 
If Vandal is still around it's time for OL to turn him into a construct for the good of the species.
That's a bit risky to OL's psyche. I suggest having a different Orange Lantern be brought in to assimilate Vandal, one that won't be affected by incorporating a living memory as deep as humanity itself.

Remember, you have to plan for the worst here, and the worst is that something manages to trick OL into summoning Construct-Vandal, and then successfully *pop* Construct-Vandal to force OL to absorb the entirety of his experiences.
 
So Vandal Savage either qualifies as an Old God thru his power or is fucking around with the Source? Not sure which is more unpleasant for OL
 
I went back and searched the dialogue and I cannot find OL actually saying "Orange Lantern" in the presence of the ship, though he might have said something offscreen.
I'll edit that, then.
'it might cause an explosion'?
'have'
'right'?
'-ter?'?
Thank you, corrected.
Actually, My Little Pony: Rise of Cadance reveals Cadance was still a pegasus when she came to Canterlot. She became Twilight's foalsitter not long after she became an alicorn, though she and Shining did see each other in passing but didn't properly have a conversation until after she ascended.
Wait... So someone was stealing love out of people with a magic amulet in the capital city, and their preparations for fighting a species that does the exact same thing were still non-existent years later?
So Vandal Savage either qualifies as an Old God thru his power or is fucking around with the Source? Not sure which is more unpleasant for OL
Huh? Not sure how you reached that conclusion.
 

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