On that part is was really on Real Grayven side, Renegade really need to learn self reliance, he had the right idea by upgrading his body using the Cobra-Venom at the very start but since then he didn't seem to have the same spark.Sinest-?
"Learn." He grabs my left arm and tugs me towards him. "Self." Two punches.. to my face… "Reliance." The Strong are Strong Alone.
Real-Grayven said it.You do have to wonder how Renegade knew what it was then since it would have been impossible for him to have meta knowledge of this Zoat created version...
"Sinthia, take Muliebria and Ovula and activate the Orrery. Lay waste to Vega. I will destroy the pretender." Hear and Obey.
a version of the Omega Effect with Elements of Harmony warping ("Love Love Love Me Beam!")
. True Grayven is likely dominant because he has actual millennia of memories and experiences to smother Fake Grayven's 30-something years with
Have a bookmarklet that works on both sites:Edit: I used to have an addon that put a small border around invisitext to make it easier to see.
Maybe that only work on SV? Not sure.
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Hard disagree. The Renegade has been making an active point of defining Conquest in terms of creating alliances with himself in charge and the power of willing subordinates extending his own, instead of defining it in terms of creating a dominion with only himself able to exercise power.On that part is was really on Real Grayven side, Renegade really need to learn self reliance
While the Renegade is far older than a calendar would suggest, no age has been given for Grayven 16.
Grayven 16 was there when Darkseid made his deal with Vandal Savage which was in the year 1227 or before.
While Zoat differed from YJ canon in that Vandal here wasn't Genghis Khan, there's no reason for particular Zoat to make Gravyen younger.
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"No."
Eyes flash purple and the construct's gone and I try to raise my arms defensively and-
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Thanks, fixed it. Must have been too enthusiastic trimming dead lines...Broken quote. Added a quotation mark so you would see what I see, rather than it breaking in mine as well.
YES!I can dimly feel her, their relationship… Not an agent. I think he… Is this..? Love? I have no direct experience with it, but their bond is clearly not the domitor-subservient relationship that I'm used to.
feeling out the hole in her metaphysique left by the pretender's absence. She feels strong, and their relationship stable. She can't be a Fury; Granny would never allow one not emotionally stunted to be deployed with a New God of any significance. Where is she from?
By My Will, Be Still.
I feel the comparative lack of resistance due to the pretender's absence. A moment more and I.. connect to what he built. The patterns of devotion and loyalty. Strange, but still compatible.
Clothing Is To Be Worn, Not Heard.
Hunter's Eyes.
Arrow Of Collegiality.
Arrow Of Fellowship.
Arrow Of Diplomacy.
Arrow Of Uplift.
Arrow Of Self-Depreciation.
Arrow Of Humor.
The pretender's agent looks stunned, and without him interfering… I can dimly feel her, their relationship… Not an agent. I think he… Is this..? Love? I have no direct experience with it, but their bond is clearly not the domitor-subservient relationship that I'm used to.
I walk slowly towards her feeling out the hole in her metaphysique left by the pretender's absence. She feels strong, and their relationship stable. She can't be a Fury; Granny would never allow one not emotionally stunted to be deployed with a New God of any significance. Where is she from?
Though now that the pretender is dead, the destruction of his nascent empire in Vega is no longer necessary. Indeed, it may be counterproductive, especially if the Controllers take advantage of the situation in order to take full possession of the Orange Central Power Battery. By My Will, Be Still.
The Orrery responds, the movement of the arms and the spinning of the spheres slowing. I will rearrange the interior later when I have their compliance.
I feel the comparative lack of resistance due to the pretender's absence. A moment more and I.. connect to what he built. The patterns of devotion and loyalty. Strange, but still compatible.
Lantern Grayven, I would appreciate an-.
Clothing Is To Be Worn, Not Heard.
"What exactly is the difference between him and you?"
"From what I have learned, I am more authoritarian. I do not tolerate alternate sources of authority in my domain. No lesser kings, no nobles with hereditary titles and no democracy. Authority flows from-"
Hunter's Eyes.
"-me."
"Good. That will be helpful-."
Arrow Of Collegiality.
There's an arrow in my chest, and… Total autocracy is impractical in an empire of any size, what was I-?
"And that tell me where to shoot."
Arrow Of Fellowship.
Another in my arm. She's bypassing my armour. Ring, obey me!
I think not.
I stare-. No, this is Artemis, I'm not going to-.
Arrow Of Diplomacy.
An arrow appears in my left leg as I run towards her.
"Grayven was kind of an ass, but he was better-"
Arrow Of Uplift.
"-than-"
Arrow Of Self-Depreciation.
"-you."
Arrow Of Humor.
NO-!
than was -> than it wasYour armour's more like his than was, and the bits of your face where you got hurt
Damn, I was hoping for a sick burn in god-speech to go with the verbal component."And you've got his Mother Box and his rings. Shame about the personality."
I love how as soon as he gets the memories to understand it, his opinions on the Sword go from "you are ridiculous for having this" to "this thing is bullshit"
Not sure exactly how this bit should go. "than how yours was before"?Your armour's more like his than was, and the bits of your face where you got hurt…
"GrayvenOS is undergoing a required update. Please do not turn off or unplug your New God until the update is complete."
"GrayvenOS is undergoing a required update. Please do not turn off or unplug your New God until the update is complete."
And the Godspeech continues.
(Took some doing, with all that character flowing in...)The pretender's agent looks stunned, and without him interfering… I can dimly feel her, their relationship… Not an agent. I think he… Is this..? Love? I have no direct experience with it, but their bond is clearly not the domitor-subservient relationship that I'm used to.
I walk slowly towards her feeling out the hole in her metaphysique left by the pretender's absence. She feels strong, and their relationship stable. She can't be a Fury; Granny would never allow one not emotionally stunted to be deployed with a New God of any significance. Where is she from?
Though now that the pretender is dead, the destruction of his nascent empire in Vega is no longer necessary. Indeed, it may be counterproductive, especially if the Controllers take advantage of the situation in order to take full possession of the Orange Central Power Battery. By My Will, Be Still.
The Orrery responds, the movement of the arms and the spinning of the spheres slowing. I will rearrange the interior later when I have their compliance.
I feel the comparative lack of resistance due to the pretender's absence. A moment more and I.. connect to what he built. The patterns of devotion and loyalty. Strange, but still compatible.
Lantern Grayven, I would appreciate an-.
Clothing Is To Be Worn, Not Heard."What exactly is the difference between him and you?"
"From what I have learned, I am more authoritarian. I do not tolerate alternate sources of authority in my domain. No lesser kings, no nobles with hereditary titles and no democracy. Authority flows from-"
Hunter's Eyes.
"-me."
Something about that made me less able to feel her, and her expression is changing.
"Good. That will be helpful-."
Arrow Of Collegiality.
There's an arrow in my chest, and… Total autocracy is impractical in an empire of any size, what was I-?
"And that tells me where to shoot."
Arrow Of Fellowship.
Another in my arm. She's bypassing my armour. Ring, obey me!
I think not.
I stare-. No, this is Artemis, I'm not going to-.
Arrow Of Diplomacy.
An arrow appears in my left leg as I run towards her.
"Grayven was kind of an ass, but he was better-"
Arrow Of Uplift.
"-than-"
Arrow Of Self-Depreciation.
"-you."
Arrow Of Humor.
NO-!
(And ninja'd! Make your choice.)