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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Discussion in 'Creative Writing' started by Mr Zoat, Jan 27, 2019.

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  1. Windona

    Windona Beetle Queen of Crackshipping

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    Oh boy, so the question is now if the mucking about was to get Paul's attention, part of a greater scheme, or both
     
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  2. Chojin Patriarch

    Chojin Patriarch Veteran Lurker

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    Yeah, I don't think they're really listening to your lecture, OL. Except maybe to wonder what will make you happy and leave. Though given prior demonstrations, that would probably require their deaths. Hence the fear for their lives...

    Though, if they're unfamiliar enough with anthropomorphic species like humans, it probably looks more like you're baring your teeth.
    "D-Does he want to eat us?"

    Like an ulcer, but supercharged, eh? Well, given the state of his planet, I can understand him being stressed.

    And I'm sure the Vegan Spider Queen can help them find inoffensive culinary options...

    Well... What do they get out of eating sapient creatures? Is there some spiritual aspect to their consumption that's critical, or is it just that the meat tastes nicer? :rolleyes:

    Something many people who've dealt with OL have felt, though not so loudly.

    Oh, I bet the discussion will be sharp. Like, knife-sharp. And heated.

    Ah, I guess they just needed the little push off the starting line to get it in gear. Though OL can get a little pushy...

    'Well? He's one of your types, isn't he? You deal with it.'

    Ah, the joy of discussing people using ambiguous titles.

    I hope things have been going well, between her and her Orange Princess. :p

    Well, the Vegan fleets do have lots of guns. I'm sure they'll agree with that much intimidation...

    On the one hand, do you know how long that would take, especially if you want the planet in usable condition afterwards? On the other... Well, the question of 'do you want the planet in one piece?' still applies.

    The alternative is destroying all their ships, to maroon them on their planets. That fleet you're overseeing could probably help keep them contained...

    Clever, especially since you don't really want to be stuck here for years lugging Spider Guilders hither and to.

    Do you want to get close to them, especially while they're having to learn people are not food? Ever seen those cartoons where a hungry character looks at someone and sees a great, big steak or drumstick? That'll be them towards your troops...

    Or their tech level is so much higher that a few troops can massively overpower whole nations. Like, for example, Lanterns.

    Oh, dear. Looks like someone's upset they aren't going in hard? Did they have their hearts set on committing some atrocities on people that may have eaten a loved one or two?

    Not included: the sound of spittle and froth dripping off their lips as they go kill-crazy rabid...

    Ooh, a mystery! But who could manage that sort of impulse manipulation?

    Yeah, that's get you some nasty looks in the Officer's Club later, I suspect. Especially if the people you had to smack down survive.

    It'd have to be someone powerful to manage it on that scale, if every sailor on those ships is experiencing the same drive to punish the Spiders...

    ...Uh-oh. Did he somehow trigger a live feed?

    :eek: Oh, dear...

    Well, well. Desire makes their return to the story. If anyone remembers, the last time we saw them was at the end of the Ophidian's possession of OL. Called him a 'delightful mess', if I remember right. So, what does the androgynous Personification of universal Want, er... Want from OL, I wonder. Has his mucking about been giving them an unpleasant itch somewhere? :p
     
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  3. DrThoth

    DrThoth I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    All this brought to you by an episode titled Uncomplicated Good Works.
     
  4. Duke Long

    Duke Long Glomerulus

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    ’heads’

    This doesn’t really seem uncomplicated. By throwing infrastructure at the planet he probably killed some innocent livestock. I mean, I think attacking the Spiders is good even despite that, but in no way uncomplicated.

    Also, I love the whole ‘person in still image turns to look at the viewer’. Always enjoy it. Only thing better is when the person attacks from the image.
     
  5. Ciber

    Ciber Know what you're doing yet?

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    Just to be clear, Desire is not Avarice. They are related, but it's an important distinction. OL's ring is powered by Avarice, not Desire. You can Desire something because of love or hate or compassion.

    The Lights of the rings are unique to a single universe. There are many universes where a different set of Lights are fundamental. But the Endless are a constant across the multiverse.
     
  6. NightmareWarden

    NightmareWarden Versed in the lewd.

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    Why does everyone think that this is Desire? I’m not seeing any hidden links in the text.
     
  7. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    He already had two. Naturally, he remembers neither of them.
     
  8. Old Knife

    Old Knife Not too sore, are you?

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    Is/are Desire/Despair/Delight/Delirum the emotional spectrum?
     
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  9. Handlewithcare

    Handlewithcare Versed in the lewd.

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    I think "is Desire a friend or foe" is a case of "yes" or perhaps "YES"

    Aww I want to read that :(


    I bet they get along great. Both need friends completely unimpressed by the other.
     
  10. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    He never said he was good at it.
    Thank you, corrected.
    People not remembering the conversations is part of Death's thing.
     
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  11. Ngamer11

    Ngamer11 Experienced.

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    Let me rephrase that then. I hope we can actually read the two interacting at some point.
     
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  12. Finagle007

    Finagle007 [Verified Great Old One]

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    It's the exact same font used by Desire earlier on, during the wrap-up of the Paulphidian arc.
     
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  13. DAT_NOOB

    DAT_NOOB Accused of writing in a far away land

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    What was the second one?
     
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  14. egooo

    egooo Getting sticky.

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    Archangel decapitation and Reach qwa-matter bomb?
     
  15. Diraniola

    Diraniola I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    What do you mean? I don't see any change of font in this section.
     
  16. Finagle007

    Finagle007 [Verified Great Old One]

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    Take a closer look.

     
  17. cereal_lurker

    cereal_lurker Getting sticky.

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    Aww, does that mean he'll never meet her again (and is officially immortal)? I remember a story where a fortune teller got her to leave on their second meeting and thus became immortal.
     
  18. rdfox

    rdfox Know what you're doing yet?

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    And now, for some reason, I'm pondering an AU In Praise of Eros update where Paul isn't with Jade and Death decides she really needs a chance to relax and blow off some steam, and she's gotten to know Paul pretty well, so...

    And, of course, even if she knew there would be no risks, I'm pretty sure she'd insist on Paul using protection. ;)

    I think Zoat meant that he's died twice already. Probably just forgot that, technically, everyone meets Death for the first time when they're born. (Or, maybe, since he wasn't born in the DC multiverse, he never met her at birth.) Given that superheroes and supervillains keep coming back from the grave, I suspect that having your conversation with her at death and then coming back doesn't make you officially immortal. I haven't read the story in question, but I suspect that the fortune teller became immortal by persuading her to let them live forever, not merely by having continued living after talking with her.
     
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  19. Dragonhulk

    Dragonhulk Versed in the lewd.

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    Congratulations you just got to the attention of Desire of the Endless. You are now fucked. Now let's see if it's in the fun way.
     
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  20. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    It wasn't a decapitation, but I don't think we ave a single word for 'the sword pierced his cranium'.
     
  21. Darko

    Darko Connoisseur.

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    She still eats meat.

    I think it's cultural since they ate a sapient species even before they left their world.

    An accurate description.

    Paul better scratch that then.

    And then disinfect his hands just to be safe.
     
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  22. Khettien

    Khettien Perpetually confused

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    The only answer anyone but Zoat could authentically give you is "That's complicated." and I suspect Zoat would rather save it for the story. Spoilers and such.
     
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  23. Assblaster5000

    Assblaster5000 I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    Both are considered a part of The Collective Unconscious, beyond that what relation they have in the comics is vague at best. And usually poorly thought out from what I know.
     
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  24. Bud-E

    Bud-E Stand up so I can push you down!

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    Gaiman has gone on record saying he doesn't like how most other DC writers portray the Endless so most writers/creators leave them alone and as a result, they aren't really shown outside of the Sandman series or whatever else Gaiman writes about them. To answer your question they could be but they are mostly their own thing unconnected to the rest of the DC universe.
     
  25. Vaermina

    Vaermina Well worn.

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    Not exactly.

    https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Endless
     
  26. Stsword

    Stsword Versed in the lewd.

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    Literally, the Flashpoint event ended with the Vertigo universe merging with New Earth and Wildstorm, which would not be possible if Vertigo and New Earth were the same universe in the first place.
     
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  27. Lord Ernest

    Lord Ernest At the End...

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    All those excuses/explanations of characters being multiversal sound like bullshit to me and just on principle I don't take it seriously. Like Darkseid or, I think I read Brainiac at one point?

    The Endless one moment can be at the top of the conceptual pyramid, in other times because they're mostly self-contained or because authors prefer to leave them alone then they're inconsecuential.
     
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  28. Stsword

    Stsword Versed in the lewd.

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    Post flashpoint the Spheres of the Gods is singular for the mainstream DC multiverse- So there is ultimately just one Darkseid and Daniel for all 53 of those universes, but that doesn't make them special or powerful, because the same holds true for every single god. According to the wiki, gemworld, the realm of chaos, the realm of order, fairyland, and Hell are also situated in the Sphere of the Gods.

    So I guess Baytor is also a multidimensional being while being a barback in Gotham communicating in Pokemon speak. So being multidimensional and 5 bucks worth of tips would get Baytor a cup of coffee at Starbucks.

    And since it was established that there are multiple multiverses in DC, there's absolutely no reason to believe that those other multiverses don't have their own sphere of the gods or a different cosmology altogether.
     
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  29. DAT_NOOB

    DAT_NOOB Accused of writing in a far away land

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    not deaths? meeting desire I remember the first one was when he was unboned from the Orange snek but the second one?
     
  30. Lord Ernest

    Lord Ernest At the End...

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    I don't believe there was a second encounter with Desire. When you quoted Mr. Zoat he was referring to his two encounters with Death, i.e. the two times he died, which he doesn't remember like all people that die and it doesn't stick, not encounters with Desire.
     
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