With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Honestly, I could see plenty of actors watching what's going on and using the diversion as an opportunity for personal fuckery themselves.

But moreover, when Darkseid started to gain power in the Universe, "Evil" started to triumph over "Good" in the comics. It was a whole thing in Final Crisis due to his being the God of Evil, doing things like uniting other Gods of Evil under his metaphorical banner, using his increasing power to remove the cosmic plot armor aura infecting the universe, ectera. This story has featured more than a few elements from that story in the most recent chapters. So it makes sense.

Darkseid ascending, if treated the same could mean that the cosmic and metaphysical connections that the Heroes enjoyed is fading. They are almost literally losing their canonical plot armor in that situation lmfao.

Which to me is actually pretty entertaining. I'd enjoy that.

 

It seems to be implied that the Reach worked out a deal with Apokolips somehow, based on Hinon saying that the Reach are using fleets that they usually use to deter Apokoliptian forces from attacking.

 

Wow, very good job making the capital letters audible, Ma'am. I take it something else is happening, then. Never rains when it can pour, eh? So, Reach push-back? Qwardians on the rampage? Apokalips moving?

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Yes, possibly worse than whatever's going wrong on your end.

...Do Maltusians have an Edgy Teenager phase? because that's more or less what's happening now. Give or take a few metric tons of depressive feelings...

Oooh, there's a nasty prospect. An Apokaliptian battle fleet rolling through city-sized Boom Tubes on top of all this...

And sadly, the most important target isn't making himself obvious right now.

On the plus column, you have Mister Miracle and the Sphere. ...and Big Barda, once they find her.

One's disposable, and the other... May be able to be subverted if its controller hasn't got a perfect hold of it...

Ah, here comes the other shoe.

Oh, that is the absolute worst thing they could have done right now...

There's probably some clause for coming down like 'a pile of coins in a sack' on outside aggressors. And they can probably make a case for it not being an invasion force if the Greenies push them on it.

And that only because the Controllers are still Maltusians, with their full command of 'fuck you, Reality, here's what's going to happen...' powers...

Gee, I wonder what could be distracting Apokalips.

Ah, another deep-dive deployment run through the Honden? Damn, if only one of OL's apprentices had managed to gain access...

Earth is your homeworld, even in a reality removed from your own.

...Will Dox's plan fail if OL isn't there yesterday?

Well, no pressure, then. less than 48 hours to save the Earth. And you can leave the League to handle cleanup!

...24 hours, then. Flash Gordon managed it in less.

True. If there's a time for busting out the Anti-Godzilla weaponry, then standing at the Godzilla threshold is it.

...Yet.

Would be a bit awkward if those who came to protect the Entity get Anti-Lifed and start trying to cripple it.

And it's not worth risking it if it's less than 100% certain.

Hey, the Controllers shit stinks just as bad as the Guardians' and Zamarons'. Sun-Eaters.

Eh, DC Human society seems to be surprisingly resilient, at least in the comics... Where the power of Status Quo... Well, shit.

Given the shit Violet Lanterns Star Sapphires got up to in the comics, it better be damn good at mitigating the mental effects. Last thing the galaxy needs is a whole corps of Yandere.

Good luck with that. The White Light moves in mysterious ways. You might not like what it does to fix humanity...

Yeah, better to go with the 'make Bruno Mannheim taste boot leather in the back of his throat' plan than the 'call up something you can't control' plan...

Well, just when OL's day couldn't get any worse, huh? Now he has an explicit time limit to get shit done. This is the drawback of havign so many jobs, I suppose. Sooner later, they all need urgent attention. So unless OL can somehow clone himself, he's going to be running around like a headless chicken to get shit sorted...

 

Who could have guessed that backed into a corner the Reach would do something like make a deal with Apokolipse.

Oh wait... The Guardians totally did... Which is why they didn't do what LePaul was trying to do.

 

Is there any realistic possibility that Paul is, basically, Mother of Mercy’d right now? He isn’t talking to Hinon, he has suffered a mental attack which will help ensure Earth falls to Mannheim.

 

Thank you, corrected.

 

They did manage to help renegade with his problem.

They kinda are yandere already.

 

I'm pretty sure it should be "Am I needed right away?"

 

Thank you, corrected.

 

He has a clone stored in Bir Tawil in case he dies and has immediate need of a new body.


Considering the clone is probably getting anti lifted I think his time limit is more pressing than he thinks.


Dream of the endless next host is currently getting anti lifed, a clone of Paul is getting anti lifed, the thaumosphere is infected and through it life in general as well (black orchid is targeting the green directly). The embodiment of life itself is also in danger.

 

You reminding me that the Green might be getting a direct infusion of Anti-Life makes me worried about Euanthe. On the plus side, if she is being effected, then Paul can help her recover, and maybe end up being worshipped by the people who worship her.

 

I don't know, it's the same for Harry Potter and how Voldemort always waited to the end of the school year to do anything. It confused the heck out of me!

 

Get a hold.

I'm 90% sure, either that or "get ahold".

 

So that would be the time limit now Paul can't drag this out with the slow and easy approach, and he knows he isn't strong enough right now to overwhelm Mannheim and the protections that hide. Him Zoat I know you like to always do this methodically but this would be a very good time to go with rare overwhelming force to solve this problem blow through whatever new god tech hides Mannheim, and wreak this shit. Please stop holding the MC back when brute force is sometimes the answer, or can be written to be the answer easily enough.

 

Oh boy, the Reach working with Apokalypse, or at least making a deal. That's gonna have major consequences.

 

No, I think that's alright.

 

I’m pretty sure it was already mentioned that Paragon doesn’t want to risk exposing Ophidian to Anti-Life unless he really has to.

 

That's just author fiat though. Paul has no problem resisting the Anti-Life, so why would the Ophidian do worse than him?

 

He's not resisting it. At the moment, he isn't feeling it at all.

 

Part of that is because Paul's soul is contrustructed. It has a chance of not whammying Ophidian, but if Ophidian is whammied...

 

You know, everybody going "Apokolips and the Reach working together" and that's true, but also Darkseid is not to be trusted. I wonder if the Reach are being suckered. This thing with Manaheim is an invasion done on the cheap. One possession, a bunch of insect monsters they basically were done with anyway, one giant robot. But it's mostly subverted local elements that are serving as actual on the ground troops. No Elites, no fleet elements. So where are they? Well....

The Reach get convinced that Apokolips is going to be "tied up" with this Earth thing. "Oh sure, it's totally safe to send your Inner Circle Fleet off. We'll be taking over Earth and dealing with the Illustres. You go take out the anti-Reach alliance at the same time."

And now the Inner Circle Fleet is out of position, and the Apokoliptian fleet is in an unknown location. The Elites are in an unknown location. Didn't we already see Grayven wiping out a Reach fleet some time ago? Wonder where Grayven's fleet is. Mmmmmhmmmm.

I would say "who is the real target here" but it's probably everyone. Take out Earth, take out Reach, take out the anti-Reach alliiance all at the same time with a single move. Exactly the sort of "fuck over everybody" move that would make Darkseid laugh and laugh.

 

Oh no doubt. I'm assuming it's probably not as strong a deal as even Vandal had with Darkseid, and we all know Vandal is probably the sucker in that situation. Point is a deal was probably made

 

If he manages that, imagine all the horrified screaming from the "Black Magic" oriented entities before they wind up incinerated.

 

Oh, if he were successful, they wouldn't scream.

They'd just 'go home and reconsider their lives'.

 

What makes the Controllers so much more appealing to the unaligned Maltusians?

 

They live on the same planet. Also, the Controllers only got the OCPB fairly recently and haven't got anything like as stuck in their ways.

 

Oh my god, the anti life is using the thaumosphere. Paul’s tattoos are absorbing it! Just like with the hell energies!

 

I still like plan Flip the Bird. Three Embodiment team-up, maybe call up a fourth if Dr. Mist can help that out.

 

Seems unlikely, certainly not impossible, but seems unlikely.

The ALE has been depicted in various ways, but "it's a mind control agent" and "it warps reality itself" are two different modes.

"Mind control agent" has never caused a hallucination that I can recall, it's too subtle for that sort of thing. And what would be the point? If it could leave Paul hallucinating while catatonic, it could make him think joining the New Gods is a perfect way for humanity to achieve transhumanism.

And if Mannheim has unlocked "warp reality itself" mode than I very much doubt he'd limit it to just screwing with Paul.

Anyway, anyone else amused that Paul's Reach functionary nemesis apparently decided to go Captain Barbarossa with "“The holy writ is more what you’d call ‘guidelines’ than actual rules?” I know I find it amusing.

 

We've seen what the other canon lanterns have done with the white light. Time to see what Paul can do.