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Um. What?
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Um. What?
I thought she also sent them across the muliverse to retrieve someone capable of wielding the orange light without going crazy? But it wasn't exact, so a lot of quantum clones were also made.No, because she wasn't. She just made the ring, and has no idea how he got it specifically.
I thought she also sent them across the muliverse to retrieve someone capable of wielding the orange light without going crazy? But it wasn't exact, so a lot of quantum clones were also made.
IIRC she sent the ring into the Bleed. From there, how Paul got it, and how Paul got to Earth 16 is unknown.I thought she also sent them across the muliverse to retrieve someone capable of wielding the orange light without going crazy? But it wasn't exact, so a lot of quantum clones were also made.
Hasn't Shade been clearing a couple of worlds of evil groups? "Acceptable targets"?
No? What?Hasn't Shade been clearing a couple of worlds of evil groups? "Acceptable targets"?
Psions and the like, targets who have been defeated in Paragon!Paul's story. Not the psions specifically though, since Renegade!Blackfire focused on them a while ago? Targets that were too entrenched for young Orange Lanterns? Isn't this what Grayven tasked him with during the Light meeting some time ago, and why they're are on a wrecked planet?
He's not refusing to settile it because it will ruin it. He's hesitant to settle it because it being that beautiful is suspicious.Just settle Odym.
Not wanting to settle a place that you've admitted is a perfect candidate because it's pretty and you think settling it will ruin that is really stupid. Especially considering why they're seeking out candidates for colonization.
Just set them up with cleaner, environmentally friendly technologies and get over it.
Yeah, but the more recent meeting with Shade... No, no. I've. Checked your November 2025 chapters now. I was wrong.No? What?
Grayven suggested that he could earn a place on the Justice League by targetting criminal groups on Earth. He didn't slaughter them; that would have been very counterproductive. Wombworld was something Grayven's Orange Lantern Corps depopulated.
I thought she also sent them across the muliverse to retrieve someone capable of wielding the orange light without going crazy? But it wasn't exact, so a lot of quantum clones were also made.
Also there are too many Richards in this story. Poor Dick Grayson.
It's a pity Orange Lantern lost his genre savyness.
With a slight vocal tic, from the sound of it. Something of a stammer, or perhaps thoughts running too fast for the mouth to keep up. Probably makes her quite endearing to human visitors because it's 'cute'.12th August 2013
12:43 GMT -5
"Hello, NNew friends!"
A g-pooka I don't recognise waves from its position behind the front desk. Cadmus has… Changed a great deal since the last time I was here. Now that they're not merely not hiding but openly advertising what they can do, the lobby is less 'secure laboratory' and more 'corporate showroom'. Bright colours, airy room, and a g-troll lifting a 5-tonne dumbbell without straining off to one side.
Well, that's not good.
Ah. Slight moment of culture shock, perhaps?
Given Amalak is probably working through a translator system right now, that might be easier.I turn back to the g-pooka. "Please, whatever you're doing to him-."
"No NNo! We are not playing GGames while we are working!" The g-troll gently sets down its dumbbell and lumbers towards the desk. "Our new FFriend is not human, yes? Is a telepathic conversation RRequired?"
Ah, his first time seeing Earth Bullshit™ in its natural habitat. Rather than OL bringing the insanity to him.Amalak-. He's gone back to the front door, and he's looking out at the Washington street. And then he turns back around.
"Problem?"
Indeed. It would quite literally drive some alien races mad from the illogical nature of it."The technology required to make a novel intelligent species is far in advance of what your world has on display. It that a security precaution?"
I raise my hands and then waggle them back and forth. "Human technology is all over the place. Don't try and compare us to anyone else because that way lies madness."
Culture shock overcome, for now. Down to business, then.The g-pooka's horns glow for a moment. **Is this BBetter, sir?**
"Yes." He walks closer. "Thank you. Do you know what we're here for?"
OL, please, don't undercut your allies in front of other allies...**No, SSir. Basic telepathic ethics PPrevents us from prying too deeply.**
"And g-pooka aren't very good at it."
And I am picturing a cutesy teenage girl version of Dubbilex now. Cute in that sort of monster-girl manner.It-. She? **[Pouts]** at me. Telepathically, as her face isn't that flexible.
**I would NNot anyway.**
Which does say something about Earth technology. Or rather, the gifted scientists that managed to create the process that made them."Very.. well, then." He approaches the desk, looking up at the g-troll as it stands at the ready. "You and.. he are the same species?"
**We are genomorphs. Designed by CCadmus Laboratories, based upon alien genetic material recovered from SSouth America.**
Amazing how adaptable their genome is, though. So many variations of humanoid from one distinct sample.He's frowning in bewilderment. "Were the multiples forms encoded in the original genetic material?"
**NNo! The original form were g-prometheans. They were larger than I am, thought LLess intelligent. They are all dead now.**
Something of a 'Face' for the business, in the adventuring party sense. Engineered with considerable social skills, if not all the experience needed to make good use of them."And you are modified based on their physiology?"
**Yes! [Smile!] TThat is what we are! I am a g-pooka, specialising in outgroup interaction!**
I'm guessing they employ near-magical levels of charm. And maybe some 'cute monster-girl' wiles as well."The g-succubae not ready to replace you yet?"
**We do NNot interact in the same way.** She shudders, apparently involuntarily. **They cheat.**
...Have they ever met J'onn J'aarkin? Or did they develop them based on the Internet?"Succubae?"
"G-succubae are psychic erotic entertainers. Weird, but safe. Actual succubae are a type of demon, and you should avoid them."
Aw, no cute genetics pun? Then again, some of their guests may not get the jokes."Very.. well. Do you have a name?"
**I am sometimes called Lisa.**
It's a strange concept, yes. Being a part of something greater, yet each part is its own being. Nameless, yet sophont. "I Am, therefore I Think.""That's not your name?"
**WWe have a group mind. We always know who other genomorphs are. Why would we have SSpoken names?**
An interesting way to explain it. And yet it makes sense. And goes some way to explain each new subtype they make, bringing something the whole lacks to the collective."But you have a sense of self. You refer to yourself in the singular. And you are assigned to the task you were designed for, rather than acting through some sort of drone."
**II have more parts when there are other genomorphs within range. Further away, I am less.**
Security, for a start. Would you act-up with him looming like that?"Genomorphs share schema and capacities more than personalities. For example, having Lisa in range lets other genomorphs understand the behaviour of other species better."
Amalak nods, turning to the g-troll. "And this one?"
They aren't Slivers, you know. A physical buff doesn't carry over.**G-trolls IImprove our spatial awareness.**
He continues to take the g-troll in. "Not your physical strength?"
Yeah, I suspect Amalak's curiosity would have them nattering for hours.Lisa blinks. **How WWould that work? We share minds, not bodies.**
"I'm sure they'd be happy to give you the full tour whenever you like, but since we're here on business..?"
An interesting question will be how many will they need to take along for a stable group mind."Yes, yes." Amalak turns back to Lisa. "I have concerns that someone who is about to be placed on trial for his life may have had his mind altered by an external force. Your people have been recommended to me as having the ability to determine whether or not that is true."
Are they tentacle-y things that read minds?**YYes. We have yet to encounter a form of mental AAlteration that we cannot detect.**
"I was told that I would need g-gnomes and g-lusca?"
Interpretation, no doubt. That is their function, both from the collective to Humans, and vice-versa.
Picture the difference between a phone call... And a modem call. Lots of information too fast for your brain to interpret right.**G-Gnomes do not understand people. SSometimes they give false results. They follow the thoughts, NNot the logic.** Her horns glimmer. **AAlso, g-gnomes and g-lusca cannot talk.**
"They're telepaths, though. Why would they need to?"
Honestly, OL is rather something of a natural telepath, for some reason."Because they'll be operating too far from the other genomorphs to draw on their knowledge, and you're not trained to share your mind with individuals whose minds are that different from yours."
"Are you?"
Far too often, sadly. Far more than the average person would get into altered states of consciousness..."I'm a party to the case. I could handle it, but… I'm trying to cut down on adopting inhuman mental states."
He nods. "Do you do a great deal of this work?"
Well, Wonder Woman can't be everywhere at once, after all.**Yes-mhm. Many places are using genomorph mental interrogation to accelerate legal PProcesses. We have the approval of BBatman and Mister Atom.**
"Is that simply a matter of revealing lies, or is it more complex?"
And that is the essential question. Kryptonians may look human, but do their minds function the same way in terms of compatibility?**Humans constantly change what they RRemember about the past. Memories are reinterpreted and simplified and linked to OOther things. We have to learn how to undo those CChanges and recover the original memories, without damaging their minds.**
"Are you competent to work on species other than humans?"
That's new. And helpful. Wonder if Mister atom employs their aid to increase productivity - not having to waste time talking would be more efficient.**Machine-thoughts are difficult, but we are mentally flexible. We have AAdapted to every species we have encountered.**
I raise my eyebrows. "You can do A.I.s now?"
Preferably without triggering some manner of mental backlash in him. Last thing we need is to put him into a coma or a psychotic rage.**Yes! G-gremlins can use their magic to bridge the gap. Martian Manhunter was QQuite impressed!**
Amalak nods thoughtfully. "Would you be willing to provide a demonstration?"
'Is'"The technology required to make a novel intelligent species is far in advance of what your world has on display. It that a security precaution?"
'multiple'He's frowning in bewilderment. "Were the multiples forms encoded in the original genetic material?"
Me said:
Thank you, corrected.
Amalak is just upgrading Earth from "maintain good relations" to "maintain very good relations from a significant distance" in his head.
also i think they don't take Paul comment about Earth too seriously until they came to Sol in person and realize that nope, Paul was underselling it to not scare them"Alien comes to DC earth and realises how fucked it is" is always fun.![]()
WTR already did that plot arc. Nothing happened.Edit: Also Earth is going to need a minister of trade/secretary of commerce for off world customers fast. In Amalak's position I'd be trying to buy whatever world breaking nonsense they have on the relative cheap.
If you're talking about Manga Khan... The SI got a hew house out of it? I'm not sure that was really long enough to be called an arc.
"I'm not a practitioner, but I'm friends with a few kryptonians who are. Telepathy is one of an empowered kryptonian's few weaknesses, and the theta wave state is an obvious way of countering that."
"A little less spiritual than how my former instructor would have put it, but substantially true. Hm."
Did they ever find that g-succubus that stole a chunk of OL's skin?
Found the reference, it was last mentioned in Retribution Part 18, and a G-Oni not G-Succubus:
No. No. I'm in hell, and something is affecting me. I'm pretty much immune to direct magics, but something is still changing the way I think and feel. Why does fighting alongside Har-. With William Hayes feel like just the right thing to do? What are my vulnerabilities? The tattoos don't stop direct, manually aimed attacks, but I haven't been exposed to one of them. I had them checked after that G-Oni damaged it in Argentina and they're still working fine.
But what happened to that G-Oni? Chances are it died with the rest when Angelica burned them, but we knew that we didn't get them all. That… Could mean that there's a fragment of my soul around somewhere. I saw Ambrose bind the essences of those demons. I didn't see the G-Oni do that, but they were rather focused. Any loose fragment of my soul should have either returned to me or gone onto a thematically-appropriate afterlife. Thana hasn't passed on any messages…
Good work.Found the reference, it was last mentioned in Retribution Part 18, and a G-Oni not G-Succubus:
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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Thirteen)
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Linguistically correct, but punny enough for us to give you the side-eye.
Yeah, they grew Conner and Mitchel from scratch, and telepathically educated them, so they're probably the only living experts on Kryptonian neurology.As for assisting with the trial... Ideally, they're familiar enough with Kryptonian brains (Through the Super-family) to work on Zod easily, too.
Everything the Genomorph's are doing should be throwing up red flags in Orange Lanterns mind.
In and of itself, I don't think OL would mind the Genomorphs using their telepathy for the pursuit of law enforcement finding out the truth. In fact I think he'd encourage it as one of the many ways Genomorphs can integrate with society and he was already aware of the G-Succubus and has repeatedly promoted getting a symbiote.Everything the Genomorph's are doing should be throwing up red flags in Orange Lanterns mind.
Random thought: I don't recall the exact timeline, but if you want a neat way to wrap this up, perhaps Boss Smiley used the G-Oni as an insurance/enforcement mechanism to make sure OL's first death went to the silver city. I also remember that Hades had a spell to overcome the issue, which he offered to OL, who then passed it on to the Atlanteans for review but I don't think it was ever actually applied.Good work.
Assuming that that is indeed the relevant part, there is no further information. Nothing relevant has happened off-screen.
Everything the Genomorph's are doing should be throwing up red flags in Orange Lanterns mind.