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[X] Chitchat
-[X] Do NOT take your eyes off her, it's impolite to not look someone in the eyes while talking to them after all.
--[X] Offer info goblinization indirectly.*
--[X] Subtly fish for information about the split in the Empire, she'll never be able to figure us out!
 
[X] Chitchat

We shall leave Hollow Man in awe of our flawless interrogation technique!
 
[X] Chitchat
-[X] Do NOT take your eyes off her, it's impolite to not look someone in the eyes while talking to them after all.
--[X] Offer info goblinization indirectly.*
--[X] Subtly fish for information about the split in the Empire, she'll never be able to figure us out!
 
[X] Chitchat
-[X] Explain that you're looking for Duchess, and ask if she can tell you where to find Empire people.

We don't know about the Unwritten Rules, do we?
 
[X] Talk about
-[X] When baking tegether you talk about children right? You have two of your own, and are a proud mother. Children also need a safe environment to grow up in.

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[X] Talk about
-[X] Family
--[X] Ask the Shy Stalker how she met her Husband.
---[X] Ask her for relationship advice on how to win the Transporter's heart.
 
[X] Head out
-[X] When you get that 'gut feeling' the second you turn away to leave...
--[X] Attack her
---[X] Nonlethally
 
Shy Stalker isn't going to attack us. This is because she feels like she is in control. Don't fight it.

[x] Talk about
[x] Stall for time.
[x] Discretely summon up a spirit to keep an eye on her. Also back up if things go pear-shaped.
[x] Look for chances to escape.
 
[X] Talk About
-[X] Ask her if she wants to be able to be happy again
--[X] Tell her how you helped Hollow Man as an example
[X] Have a spirit watch Shy Stalker to keep an eye on her as you do so. That gut feeling wasn't pleasant.
 
Nai said:
[X] Talk About
-[X] Ask her if she wants to be able to be happy again
--[X] Tell her how you helped Hollow Man as an example
[X] Have a spirit watch Shy Stalker to keep an eye on her as you do so. That gut feeling wasn't pleasant.
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What Necros did with Hollow Man won't help. Night's problem isn't with her power. It's brainwashing by the Gesellschaft. Same with Fog.


[X] Talk about
-[X] The Cookies
 
[X] Attack her taking with here was nice and all but shes clearly up to something you better make the first move
-[X] Nonlethally maybe you can capture her and convince her to join the merchants that way none of here cookies would have to end there lives on the bottom of a bin anymore.
 
[X] Talk About
-[X] Ask her if she wants to be able to be happy again
--[X] Tell her how you helped Hollow Man as an example
[X] Have a spirit watch Shy Stalker to keep an eye on her as you do so. That gut feeling wasn't pleasant.
Fishyface said:
What Necros did with Hollow Man won't help. Night's problem isn't with her power. It's brainwashing by the Gesellschaft. Same with Fog.
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Deep memory dive and/or (depending on when they got her) the deaging ritual.
 
It's pretty morally abhorrent to change someone's memories/personalities though. Isn't that the same as killing them? Emma was pretty bad, but acceptable because it was the only way to help her. Let's not go down this route again.
 
[x] Talk about: Never make a deal with a dragon.
->[x] Offer to kill all the men who fixed her OR to heal her body. In exchange, ask for information on E88.
->[x] Prove you can actually do so.
 
[x] Talk about: Never make a deal with a dragon.
->[x] Offer to kill all the men who fixed her OR to heal her body. In exchange, ask for information on E88.
->[x] Prove you can actually do so.
 
Nai said:
[x] Talk about: Never make a deal with a dragon.
->[x] Offer to kill all the men who fixed her OR to heal her body. In exchange, ask for information on E88.
->[x] Prove you can actually do so.
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We're pretending to be normal.... it's werking!
[X] Talk about
-[X] how hard it it is to connected to world, when everything keeps changing around you.
---[X] Fish out what her interests are.
 
The time for games is over. We hold all the cards now. It is time to strike.

1) Our spirit watches her, ensuring no nasty surprises. She is alone, bereft of mental or emotional support. She isn't thinking clearly.

2) We know what makes her tick. If she hates the men who hurt her, offer her revenge. If she wants to have children offer her a child.

3) Make sure she understands this is a one time deal. A limited time offer. Put on a show, throw around some lightning.

"Would you like to make a deal?"
 
cjl said:
1) Our spirit watches her, ensuring no nasty surprises. She is alone, bereft of mental or emotional support. She isn't thinking clearly.
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She's in her home, she knows the battlefield, where to run and hide and where the guns and knives.
cjl said:
2) We know what makes her tick. If she hates the men who hurt her, offer her revenge. If she wants to have children offer her a child.
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your making assumptions that could blow up in Necros's face, she was brainwashed into being a soldier.... what do soldiers do? they follow orders!
cjl said:
3) Make sure she understands this is a one time deal. A limited time offer. Put on a show, throw around some lightning.
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:rolleyes: This is a recon missio, my god! all this would do is cause Oni Lee to come in and blowing things up, thus unifying both Nazi factions into going to war with the Merchants Guild.

We can try playing this mess into a secret diplomatic scenario between Purity's crew and the Guild or turn Night into our spy by holding her wish hostage and killing her when she's served her use.
 
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[x] Talk about: Never make a deal with a dragon.
->[x] Offer to kill all the men who fixed her OR to heal her body. In exchange, ask for information on E88.
->[x] Prove you can actually do so.
 
Flabbyknight One question: Do we have any skills/abilities that would let us heal her so she could have kids again, not counting the de-aging ritual.

Vote to be determined depending on the answer.
 
[X] Talk about
-[X] How good we are at healing people, explain that we might be able t let her have children again with some time to research. (if she asks what it would cost her, well OBVIOUSLY it's going to be more of these delicious cookies!)
-[X] More cookie recipes.


The reason she was fixed was as part of the brainwashing. A woman's instincts are VERY strongly geared towards having children, and removing that ability leaves the woman open to dozens of avenues of attack for the brainwashing. Just the hint that she could have children again might put a very large crack in the brainwashing as a whole... It wouldn't be an instant thing, but it could pay off big later on, once the seed of doubt's had time to sprout.
 
Flabbyknight said:
Also could someone clarify why you put the line 'Never make a deal of a dragon' in what you will talk about. I get that it is a Shadowrun reference, but are you referencing to yourself as the dragon in this scenario, not actual say anything about dragons and you are just saying that Taylor is acting like a scheming dragon or are you telling Dorothy not to make deals with dragon. It is really unclear.
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I wouldn't call Taylor a scheming dragon, but she is definitely offering a deal. And it probably not be a good idea for Night to make a deal with the insane Taylor, so it's some advice to her too.


To be clear this is not a very nice thing to do to someone. But keep in mind that the person in question is a professional murderer for a gang, regardless of whatever brainwashing may have occurred. Would someone like that be interested in mundane offers?

Don't feel pity for the murderer. All you're offering is to fulfill her deepest desires for information on a split and defunct organization. Is that really so bad, that your morality won't allow it? Can't killers have wishes too?

Well, don't take it too seriously. Honestly it's just a cool phrase thrown into the choice to make it sound cooler.
 
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edale said:
The reason she was fixed was as part of the brainwashing. A woman's instincts are VERY strongly geared towards having children, and removing that ability leaves the woman open to dozens of avenues of attack for the brainwashing. Just the hint that she could have children again might put a very large crack in the brainwashing as a whole... It wouldn't be an instant thing, but it could pay off big later on, once the seed of doubt's had time to sprout.
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Overgeneralizing much?
 
edale said:
The reason she was fixed was as part of the brainwashing. A woman's instincts are VERY strongly geared towards having children, and removing that ability leaves the woman open to dozens of avenues of attack for the brainwashing. Just the hint that she could have children again might put a very large crack in the brainwashing as a whole... It wouldn't be an instant thing, but it could pay off big later on, once the seed of doubt's had time to sprout.
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Aleh said:
Overgeneralizing much?
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Indeed, even for me besides sounding overly sexist and sophistic, why can't we just try finding out what she wants instead of openly blowing our cover of civility.
 
That was about as subtle as a sack of hammers. But, oh well, you gotta start somewhere. Good luck, Dragon Taylor!

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What's our charisma by the way?
 
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