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Esquestria: The House of the Sun - A pony cultist experience

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spiderhellian said:
What do we even do if she did?

I don't think we can spend so many bits on them, but also we don't have a clear use for them…

What if we dump them into Canterlot Pt 3 and close the door behind them :V
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We load them up in a wagon and send Biedde off with them into the convenient barren wasteland within walking distance of Ponyville to "defuse".
 
spiderhellian said:
What do we even do if she did?

I don't think we can spend so many bits on them, but also we don't have a clear use for them…

What if we dump them into Canterlot Pt 3 and close the door behind them :V
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They are extremely useful in the sense of having contingency muscle for emergencies.

Besides they only cost as much as Biedde.

We'll just need to actually go have our Names get bits.

If needed we could always just rob rich nobles.
 
Don't worry, don't worry. Last few days, weekday and weekend alike, were very busy. But I am literally writing right now.

I'll do thread-maintenance later, but I think we all agree that cooking is more important.

I hope you are all doing well! And we will reconvene in a few hours, hopefully.
 
Rafuki22 said:
Agree, what's the polling like?
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Task: 【NONE】
— Voters: 32

[X] Plan: Primer and Warning
-[X] You decided to start laundering some Lore-knowledge... (Lores will be picked at Velvet's discretion)
--[X][LORE-ZERO] You only planted some very vague, but educative, information about the Lores. (No specific Lores shared, counts as "one" evidence)
-[X][WINDIGOS] You made it convincing. You made it look secret. You even simulated a burn mark, to pretend they tried to destroy this "document". But in the end, you warned them about the ticking bombs. (Share knowledge about the sealed Windigo's existence. Counts as "one" evidence)
No. of Votes: 17
[◈] Plan: Primer and Warning
[X] Alan975
[X] AuthorTransient
[x] Bakkasama
[X] Cochimetl
[X] DelightedOne
[X] des-pair-2
[X] Greymere
[X] LieutenantSpirit
[X] Limabot
[X] Portec
[X] Potdl
[X] Random Anon
[X] Sintonir
[X] spiderhellian
[X] Steady Gaze
[X] Sveta08
[X] Talon Tiger Dino

[X] Plan: A Paradoxical Riddle
-[X][SABOTAGE] You planted several conflicting, contradictory, and downright false documents. As long as they fall for it, this will cause heads to be scratched. (Attempt to hinder and obfuscate all investigation efforts. Counts as "one" evidence)
-[X] You decided to start laundering some Lore-knowledge... (Lores will be picked at Velvet's discretion)
--[X][LORE-ONE] You planted something that, in its own narrow way, has some practical use. (One Lore shared, counts as "two" evidence)
No. of Votes: 12
[◈] Plan: A Paradoxical Riddle
[X] Anjaxis
[X] BritBiscuit
[X] Demilich
[X] HellFire666
[X] Maer
[X] MisRAR1
[X] Nevermort
[X] Rafuki22
[X] Shaper47
[X] Steady Gaze
[X] Venerable Ro
[X] Zxzx24

[X] Plan: Not Underestimating the Bureau
-[X][SABOTAGE] You planted several conflicting, contradictory, and downright false documents. As long as they fall for it, this will cause heads to be scratched. (Attempt to hinder and obfuscate all investigation efforts. Counts as "one" evidence)
-[X] You decided to start laundering some Lore-knowledge... (Lores will be picked at Velvet's discretion)
--[X][LORE-ZERO] You only planted some very vague, but educative, information about the Lores. (No specific Lores shared, counts as "one" evidence)
No. of Votes: 8
[◈] Plan: Not Underestimating the Bureau
[X] Alan975
[X] Anjaxis
[X] HellFire666
[X] LieutenantSpirit
[X] Nevermort
[X] Rafuki22
[X] Shaper47
[X] Steady Gaze

[X] Plan: A Delay and a Warning
-[X][SABOTAGE] You planted several conflicting, contradictory, and downright false documents. As long as they fall for it, this will cause heads to be scratched. (Attempt to hinder and obfuscate all investigation efforts. Counts as "one" evidence)
-[X][WINDIGOS] You made it convincing. You made it look secret. You even simulated a burn mark, to pretend they tried to destroy this "document". But in the end, you warned them about the ticking bombs. (Share knowledge about the sealed Windigo's existence. Counts as "one" evidence)
-[X] You decided to start laundering some Lore-knowledge... (Lores will be picked at Velvet's discretion)
--[X][LORE-ZERO] You only planted some very vague, but educative, information about the Lores. (No specific Lores shared, counts as "one" evidence)
No. of Votes: 6
[◈] Plan: A Delay and a Warning
[X] DelightedOne
[X] LieutenantSpirit
[X] Maer
[X] Sintonir
[X] Sveta08
[X] Talon Tiger Dino

[X] Plan: Forge Lore One
-[X] You decided to start laundering some Lore-knowledge... (Lores will be picked at Velvet's discretion)
--[X][LORE-ONE] You planted something that, in its own narrow way, has some practical use. (One Lore shared, counts as "two" evidence)
-[X][FORGE-RITUAL] You planted a set of instructions, on how to perform a miraculous feat. (Share "The Forge's Redemption". Counts as "one" evidence)
No. of Votes: 5
[◈] Plan: Forge Lore One
[X] LieutenantSpirit
[X] MisRAR1
[X] Pittauro
[X] Potdl
[X] Steady Gaze

[X] One Lore and Warning
No. of Votes: 3
[X] Sintonir
[X] Cochimetl
[X] Greymere

[X] Plan: Safe and Sound
-[X] You decided to start laundering some Lore-knowledge... (Lores will be picked at Velvet's discretion)
--[X][LORE-ZERO] You only planted some very vague, but educative, information about the Lores. (No specific Lores shared, counts as "one" evidence)
No. of Votes: 3
[◈] Plan: Safe and Sound
[x] Bakkasama
[X] Shaper47
[X] Steady Gaze

[X] Plan: Forge and bombs
-[X] You decided to start laundering some Lore-knowledge... (Lores will be picked at Velvet's discretion)
--[X][LORE-ONE] You planted something that, in its own narrow way, has some practical use. (One Lore shared, counts as "two" evidence)
---[X] Forge
-[X][WINDIGOS] You made it convincing. You made it look secret. You even simulated a burn mark, to pretend they tried to destroy this "document". But in the end, you warned them about the ticking bombs. (Share knowledge about the sealed Windigo's existence. Counts as "one" evidence)
No. of Votes: 2
[◈] Plan: Forge and bombs
[X] Rafuki22
[X] Sintonir

[X] Plan: Just lore
-[X] You decided to start laundering some Lore-knowledge... (Lores will be picked at Velvet's discretion)
--[X][LORE-THREE] You planted a small trove of useful information. More than enough to hook in the curious and the brave. (Three Lores shared, counts as "three" evidence)
No. of Votes: 2
[◈] Plan: Just lore
[X] Arrkhon
[X] Steady Gaze

[X] The bureau starts being useful.
-[X] You decided to start laundering some Lore-knowledge... (Lores will be picked at Velvet's discretion)
--[X][LORE-ONE] You planted something that, in its own narrow way, has some practical use. (One Lore shared, counts as "two" evidence)
No. of Votes: 2
[x] Earth-Destroyer
[X] BritBiscuit

[X] The bureau starts being useful.
No. of Votes: 2
[X] Quaxotia
[x] Bakkasama

[X] Nothing. (Absolutely no evidence was planted. Better safe than sorry.) (Counts as "Zero" evidence)
No. of Votes: 1
[x] Bakkasama

[X] One Lore and Warning
-[X][WINDIGOS] You made it convincing. You made it look secret. You even simulated a burn mark, to pretend they tried to destroy this "document". But in the end, you warned them about the ticking bombs. (Share knowledge about the sealed Windigo's existence. Counts as "one" evidence)
-[X] You decided to start laundering some Lore-knowledge... (Lores will be picked at Velvet's discretion)
--[X][LORE-ONE] You planted something that, in its own narrow way, has some practical use. (One Lore shared, counts as "two" evidence)
No. of Votes: 1
[X] Quaxotia

[X] Plan: Everything Bagel
-[X][SABOTAGE] You planted several conflicting, contradictory, and downright false documents. As long as they fall for it, this will cause heads to be scratched. (Attempt to hinder and obfuscate all investigation efforts. Counts as "one" evidence)
-[X] You decided to start laundering some Lore-knowledge... (Lores will be picked at Velvet's discretion)
--[X][LORE-ZERO] You only planted some very vague, but educative, information about the Lores. (No specific Lores shared, counts as "one" evidence)
-[X][FORGE-RITUAL] You planted a set of instructions, on how to perform a miraculous feat. (Share "The Forge's Redemption". Counts as "one" evidence)
-[X][WINDIGOS] You made it convincing. You made it look secret. You even simulated a burn mark, to pretend they tried to destroy this "document". But in the end, you warned them about the ticking bombs. (Share knowledge about the sealed Windigo's existence. Counts as "one" evidence)
No. of Votes: 1
[◈] Plan: Everything Bagel
[X] Steady Gaze

[X] Plan: Forge Alone
-[X][FORGE-RITUAL] You planted a set of instructions, on how to perform a miraculous feat. (Share "The Forge's Redemption". Counts as "one" evidence)
No. of Votes: 1
[◈] Plan: Forge Alone
[X] Steady Gaze

[X] Plan: Forge Bagel
-[X] You decided to start laundering some Lore-knowledge... (Lores will be picked at Velvet's discretion)
--[X][LORE-ZERO] You only planted some very vague, but educative, information about the Lores. (No specific Lores shared, counts as "one" evidence)
-[X][FORGE-RITUAL] You planted a set of instructions, on how to perform a miraculous feat. (Share "The Forge's Redemption". Counts as "one" evidence)
-[X][WINDIGOS] You made it convincing. You made it look secret. You even simulated a burn mark, to pretend they tried to destroy this "document". But in the end, you warned them about the ticking bombs. (Share knowledge about the sealed Windigo's existence. Counts as "one" evidence)
No. of Votes: 1
[◈] Plan: Forge Bagel
[X] Steady Gaze

[X] Plan: Forge Lore Zero
-[X] You decided to start laundering some Lore-knowledge... (Lores will be picked at Velvet's discretion)
--[X][LORE-ZERO] You only planted some very vague, but educative, information about the Lores. (No specific Lores shared, counts as "one" evidence)
-[X][FORGE-RITUAL] You planted a set of instructions, on how to perform a miraculous feat. (Share "The Forge's Redemption". Counts as "one" evidence)
No. of Votes: 1
[◈] Plan: Forge Lore Zero
[X] Steady Gaze

[X] Plan: Forge Sabotage
-[X][SABOTAGE] You planted several conflicting, contradictory, and downright false documents. As long as they fall for it, this will cause heads to be scratched. (Attempt to hinder and obfuscate all investigation efforts. Counts as "one" evidence)
-[X][FORGE-RITUAL] You planted a set of instructions, on how to perform a miraculous feat. (Share "The Forge's Redemption". Counts as "one" evidence)
No. of Votes: 1
[◈] Plan: Forge Sabotage
[X] Steady Gaze

[X] Plan: Forge Windigos
-[X][FORGE-RITUAL] You planted a set of instructions, on how to perform a miraculous feat. (Share "The Forge's Redemption". Counts as "one" evidence)
-[X][WINDIGOS] You made it convincing. You made it look secret. You even simulated a burn mark, to pretend they tried to destroy this "document". But in the end, you warned them about the ticking bombs. (Share knowledge about the sealed Windigo's existence. Counts as "one" evidence)
No. of Votes: 1
[◈] Plan: Forge Windigos
[X] Steady Gaze




Total No. of Voters: 32
 
spiderhellian said:
What do we even do if she did?

I don't think we can spend so many bits on them, but also we don't have a clear use for them…

What if we dump them into Canterlot Pt 3 and close the door behind them :V
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Glorious ritual sacrifice for... something, I don't know.

Or we slam them into the proto-hive despite the LB having eyes on it in a fit of madness.

Maybe we can feed them to Ash, as a treat!

Maybe we can feed them to Mareinette, as a treat!
 
Pittauro said:
I really don't get why the lore zero plan is winning, instead of a lore one plan.
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I'm expecting them to find other Lores as part of their evidence when investigating Copper's Cult. To me, it makes more sense to provide a grounding to those discoveries than to add more on top.

This is a good opportunity to introduce a baseline understanding. We can "nudge" them in a certain direction later.
 
I'm disappointed that we opted for lore 0 instead of 1 but oh well.

[X] Plan: A Paradoxical Riddle
[X] Plan: Forge Lore One
[X] One Lore and Warning
[X] The bureau starts being useful.

Possibly some votes that don't have "Plan:" in them are getting counted separately when they shouldn't but it doesn't change the outcome.
 
Pittauro said:
I really don't get why the lore zero plan is winning, instead of a lore one plan.

I'd have preferred introducing Redemption of the Forge too, but that can always come later I suppose.
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I guess people got really, really concerned about windigos all of a sudden. It is what it is.
 
Pittauro said:
I really don't get why the lore zero plan is winning, instead of a lore one plan.
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I presume it's a combination of not wanting to accidentally hand Celestia Lantern 1 on a silver platter, wanting to only have 2 plants rather than 3 to lower the risk of detection, and Lore 0s simply being easier to digest, so to speak, than 1s.
 
Talon Tiger Dino said:
I presume it's a combination of not wanting to accidentally hand Celestia Lantern 1 on a silver platter, wanting to only have 2 plants rather than 3 to lower the risk of detection, and Lore 0s simply being easier to digest, so to speak, than 1s.
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we've been told lantern is only a risk ABOVE Lore 1 picks
 
Venerable Ro said:
I'm pretty sure I wound up snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Sad that, I will be vexed if Mareinette really did loot the windigo jars, and I fully reserve the rights to laugh at people complaining about being saddled with demands to find and secure the bloody things.
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Acceptable.
And should that happen, you have the right of it
 
Sveta08 said:
Acceptable.
And should that happen, you have the right of it
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Well I am a dragon, that means I'm always right by default, even when I'm not.

I do admire your passion mind, that was some good speechifying you did on this vote, fine rhetoric. Now to figure out what to do about windigo jars.
 
Venerable Ro said:
Now to figure out what to do about windigo jars.
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If we have them, its good and we should keep them.

Being able to throw a bunch of Windigos at a problem is a good card to keep hold of. Especially in the face of outside threats.

Equestria has been kept safe from outside forces due to the threat of Celestia. That reputation has probably taken a few blows due to her being alicornnapped till the Master saved her and having her kingdom burned.

If Celestia is unavailable for a while due to say being fillynapped there's going to be problems.
 
Shaper47 said:
Being able to throw a bunch of Windigos at a problem is a good card to keep hold of. Especially in the face of outside threats.
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Well they might've been, if we hadn't gone and told our secret police to be on the lookout for murder constructs in jars.
 
Venerable Ro said:
Well they might've been, if we hadn't gone and told our secret police to be on the lookout for murder constructs in jars.
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Remember some of those possible threats mentioned on very hard expeditions.

Having some Windigos to throw down would be very helpful if we decide to go on them.

Besides their good in time sensitive emergencies.
 
Venerable Ro said:
Well I am a dragon, that means I'm always right by default, even when I'm not.

I do admire your passion mind, that was some good speechifying you did on this vote, fine rhetoric. Now to figure out what to do about windigo jars.
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Thank you. I don't like to at times, but I will if I feel I should. And here, I did.

But, should they be in our horde of items stolen, then we can handle them as may like.
If they are not, and the detectives do not find them, then again, we can hunt and find them.
If they are not, and the detectives do find them, then it is somewhat more complicated, yes. Depending on how many are found and so on. Whether they are taken away as with a bomb squad, or perhaps one sequestered away amidst the secrets of Eclipse, or should The Sun seek to banish them herself, or any number of things that will inevitably have to happen if this is the case.

But I would risk that complication for not risking our Bureau, the potential ire of Celestia at a breach and failure, and the citizens of Manehatten besides. But I won't belabor my point more than I already have.
 
[X] Plan: A Paradoxical Riddle
[X] Plan: Forge Lore One
[X] One Lore and Warning
[X] The bureau starts being useful.
 
Raises an eyebrow

What a confused. And confusing plan. Especially since we are... well an ice person. In the eyes of some of our agents.

To say nothing of what might happen if mareinette did loot windigos
 
For Harmony and Love! – A Princess Cadance Quest​

You are Princess Mi Amore Cadenza.

You are Cadence.

And right now you are barely able to drink the hot tea your dear friend has placed in front of you.

Even now your eyes keep glancing to Velvet's revealed body.

Her flank flawlessly there in front of your eyes.

Besides you Auntie Luna seems to be doing much the same.

Then the mare you are watching so closely places down her cup.

"Now let's talk about what comes next."

At her word you focus forcing yourself to move past the shock at what you have so recently witnessed and the desperate hopes ignited in you for the future.


[Your dear friend Velvet Covers has revealed skills you have had no knowledge of, what should she aim for next with her abilities]

Due to knowing very little about what exactly Velvet can do you can not suggest write-ins. You can try and suggest a course but technically Velvet is under Princess Luna's authority. This is thus mainly a heads up only what Velvet will be focusing on rather then an opportunity to give orders. That does not however mean you are without influence.

[The winning option has already been picked. What you can do is pick a secondary goal for Velvet to potentially work towards.]

What is it you desire for Velvet to do?

[X] Victory is found in Strength
-"If my foundations are weak then I shall crumble."
-Velvet shall focus on growing in power in the lores
-This will grant more time till Celestia can piece her mask due to her mask being stronger (Celestia realizing Velvet's knowledge before Luna acts will result in Velvet's death)
-This will benefit in all future actions and goals by Velvet Covers due to her improved abilities

Luna heavily supports this

[] Smother the Eclipse
-"It's not about overpowering an enemy. It's about taking away what power they have. And we will, in time."
-Velvet shall focus on sabotaging the Eclipse the most heavily guarded ponies in all of Equestria
-Nightmares will shatter their minds
-They will die alone frozen from the end she brings
-An Agonising End will stalk their desperate efforts
-As this is done by rituals safely far away Velvet will come under no suspicion
-They have no shield, no wards that can stop what is coming for them
-What little they might see will not be enough to save them
-Celestia will not have any researchers into the lores
-This will grant more time till Celestia can piece her mask due to it being harder for Celestia to increase her own lore abilities (Celestia realizing Velvet's knowledge before Luna acts will result in Velvet's death)
- Velvet and thus the Luna Bureau will be and take the authority of the Lore experts in Equestria

[] Kindle the Flames
-"They shall be my finest ponies, those who give of themselves to me."
-Velvet shall focus on training the Luna Bureau in the lores and ensuring their loyalty
-The competency of the Bureau will increase
-The Bureau will be better able to deal with events regarding the lores
-Velvet will be able to use Luna Bureau resources to a steadily increasing degree in regards to lore preparations
-Speed makes suspicions, even with Velvet's skills going fast with this will arise suspensions especially given the skills of the Bureau members
-Potential shaky grounds for loyalty. Loyalty is like a seed, it takes time and care to grow. Time of which is lacking.
-The Bureau will sooner be able to use rituals like Forge's Redemption officially such as for the Secretariat Shinning Armor
-The Eclipse is likely to gather some of the lore knowledge Velvet would be sharing
-This will mean less time till Celestia can piece her mask due to it being easier for Celestia to increase her own lore abilities (Celestia realizing Velvet's knowledge before Luna acts will result in Velvet's death)

Luna heavily opposes this

[] Decisiveness is Crucial
-"We can't just cling to fillyish things as evil just grows closer."
-Velvet shall focus preparing for attacks on Equestria by enemy forces
-Wendigos shall be bound to be released immediately as necessary
-Preparations for future summoning of Wendigos and Ash Ghouls shall be undertaken
– Artifacts shall be gathered
– Reagents shall be made
– Pony sacrifices shall be found
– Materials (corpses) shall be prepared
-This is a potential force of much higher quality though less quantity then the royal guard
-A very strong contingency in the case of an attack
-Likelihood of an attack is greatly increased in the case of Celestia being temporarily unavailable



Alright, so things to remember. The primary option has already been picked and it's "Victory is found in Strength", mainly because Luna would much prefer for Velvet to both be safer and to be better able to teach her. Whatever you pick is mostly the secondary option, i.e. what you want Velvet to do. She may or may not get around to doing it, she is a very busy mare afterall!

Also just because it's not Velvet's Primary concern doesn't mean she'll stop acting towards these goals. She'll still be gaining the loyalty and introducing the lores to the Luna Bureau even if you don't urge her to do that. It will just be slower and more carefully done.

As you can probably gather from the options Velvet is running under different rules. Older rules. But that's what happens when you have a ruthless mare who basically comes from part of an eldritch horror setting. Trust me when I say you are lucky she's both on your side and not a whole lot worse.

Still Velvet is just a mare for now. A mare who is very busy with her day and partial nightlong job running the Luna Bureau. She's also having to fund all this by herself. So there's limits on just how much she can do.
 
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Sveta08 said:
Thank you. I don't like to at times, but I will if I feel I should. And here, I did.
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Admirable! Speaking up for convictions, even and especially literary ones, is never pointless effort. I know I at least come across as quite the curmudgeon (I am one after all) but there's a firm difference in my mind between subjects or topics of rhetorical debate and the participants thereof.

Which is to say, no hard feelings and congratulations on a well-persuaded vote.
 
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