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The Odious King, and yes.Who was the actual magician who killed Mesmerelda? Is that OWB stuff again?
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The Odious King, and yes.Who was the actual magician who killed Mesmerelda? Is that OWB stuff again?
Having access to knowledge isn't the same thing as having the knowledge. She'd have to know what it is she wanted to know and the context for that information.I'm pretty sure the Ophidian already has basically all the useful magical knowledge. Every avaricious desire to understand a spell is within her Honden.
Sentience is having the ability to perceive the environment and react to it. It isn't strictly required that one recognizes oneself as distinct from the environment, but that's a common sci-fi addendum.
Who did Diana think Hippolyta's parents were? I'm assuming other Amazons knew, so did they all collectively lie about it (by omission, if nothing else)? Not the best thing for a nascent god of truth.
He get's rebuilt.
And AI pathing that keeps him from getting stuck on terrain.'Gentlemen, we can rebuild him. We have the technology. Better than before. Better, stronger, faster.'
That should say 'then'.I mean, if someone asked tem I could sort of see them trying to justify it in those terms, but…
Paragon thinking he's sane and avoided the negative effects of the Orange Light never ceases to amuse."There is no particular reason why the ring could not be returned to him. But our tests showed that those who used it became mentally unstable."
"If you're not ready for it. I used to perform an hour of meditation a day, making sure I maintained an awareness of all of my desires and objectives. It is a risk, but it's a manageable one."
"In our world… A person such as him would not be trusted with a power ring
Ah. No, it was not his genetic background, but his attitude to history and culture. He was imprisoned for a time, but is now free."
No one from here has come to our universe?"
"Not as far as I know
How likely do I think it is that Truggs has… What, provoked a planet full of demon-tainted superheroes into attacking a world with a national socialist-derived society
Karl nods. "Have you attempted to access my universe?"
I shake my head. "We couldn't make sense of the portal Angelika came through. Without any sort of way to track which parallel she came from… I mean, we did try, but the technology isn't there
I think he means before he became enlightened. You could claim he was still sane then.Paragon thinking he's sane and avoided the negative effects of the Orange Light never ceases to amuse.
Didn't think of that. I thought Dr. Sivana Sr. wouldn't be interested due to having learned all he can from demons already, vivisections included.Reminder that the senior Dr Sivana once captured Angelika due to presumptions about her value to Paul. So the Sivana family may participate in the upcoming demon arc. I'm all for that! Especially since Sivana senior is no longer wanted but the law; that means we might see him interact with heroes other than Paul!
Hoorah for the awkwardness.
Yeah this is the point BEFORE you take the Nazi into your base where you make sure the Nazi is aware that this is a world were his philosophy is regarded as probably the worst thing humanity has done and that he is expected to keep his mouth shut around the various black people, Jews, homosexuals and varied other people he will likely encounter.... because Nazi gonna Nazi otherwise
I suspect it's more his political and philosophical views...Due to his ancestry, which would restrict him from political office, or his fight against the Reichsmen?
Didn't think of that. I thought Dr. Sivana Sr. wouldn't be interested due to having learned all he can from demons already, vivisections included.
Thank you, corrected.
Given the timing, and the previous Interlude, I suspect that Krona may be to blame.
I expect both OL and Freeman rejuvenated themselves. So they'd have the same face, if not the same haircut. So, if he's in any way friends with his Paul, this shouldn't be too hard to keep on good terms... Though I expect he'll notice the subtle differences...16th September 2012
20:05 GMT +1
Behind me, Karl clears his throat, prompting me to turn back around. Something-. Yes, I think he recognises me.
"You are this reality's Paul Freeman."
A safe assumption to make, especially since they started with the same colour...I frown. "Half-right."
"Ah, of course. It is not his real name. Are you under the same restriction?"
Heh, checking with his daughter if he can be trusted. Karl's quite a reasonable fellow, if you ignore the National Socialist thing.I nod. "I can't say my name, and neither can any other version of me I've met. And I've met a lot of parallel versions of me, but I don't think I've met yours."
He glances at Angelika, and she nods.
Because family history was a big thing for the hardliners..."In our world… A person such as him would not be trusted with a power ring."
"Is this about our great grandfather? Because Angelika said it wasn't that big a deal."
And the likelihood of him having anywhere near the same life in this universe, if he existed at all, is slim."I do not understand. Did your great grandfather fight in the Second Great War?"
"It's more that he wasn't Anglo-Saxon." I frown. "I think he'd have been too old for the regular military in the Second World War, but I can't say that I ever checked."
Yes, that might do it.Though in that timeline, if he existed, he would probably have been in a Home Guard unit. And probably killed during the invasion of Britain. Or given his likely appearance, shortly afterwards.
"Ah. No, it was not his genetic background, but his attitude to history and culture. He was imprisoned for a time, but is now free."
I rather doubt it's been over a year since she disappeared. I don't see Karl being that patient looking for her. Wonder if she ever read any of 'Paul Freeman's' articles?Angelika looks puzzled. "I have never met him." Karl looks slightly awkward. "Did you find him after I… Left?"
"I did not want you… You know that I did not like to expose you to that part of-."
Ah, right. What with the daemonic invasion hanging over Earth-16's head..."And look what happened!" Angelika spreads her arms out wide, indicating Germany. "Do you know how many people I carelessly insulted when I came here?"
"Ah, you two clearly need time to catch up, but is there anything that we need to talk about right now?"
And the hypercognitives who could have looked into it were busy with other things, like preparing for the Sheeda.Karl nods. "Have you attempted to access my universe?"
I shake my head. "We couldn't make sense of the portal Angelika came through. Without any sort of way to track which parallel she came from… I mean, we did try, but the technology isn't there."
And yet Truggs managed to, it seems. If not Earth-10 directly..."No one from here has come to our universe?"
"Not as far as I know." I shrug. "We haven't been completely open with the general public about where Angelika comes from, but they know that she's not from here originally. If someone from the Justice League has found time to open a portal they haven't told us about it, same with independent laboratories. Heck, we had worldwide jammers up in an attempt to prevent this sort of thing."
Thanks goodness for traumatised politicians making hasty decisions, in this case at least. And before anyone asks, the latter world was presumably Witchworld, and the 'man' Melmoth."You have had previous encounters with parallel universes, then?"
"I've met literally hundreds of different versions of me. We've had a couple of encounters with a parallel universe where the dominant super powered group was an international crime syndicate and a… Another without native human life which a man from the far future was using for biological experimentation, but I think we got international agreement on the jammers because people conflated parallel universe invasions with time travel invasions, and that was the big one."
And given Earth-10's reigning philosophy, the Sheeda might never exist there. Short of a total societal collapse altering things..."A time travel invasion?"
"The Sheeda. Humans from the far future, who I assume you haven't met because they're not in your future. But there's a reason why advanced physics research is getting very focused funding and people are being firmly discouraged from opening gateways to parallel universes. Why do you ask?"
<head-desk> Oh, goddammit, Truggs. What's the bet Earth-Hell tried to force a portal to Earth-16 open, and it bounced to Earth-10? I mean, it's not like they'd care what world they had found as long as they could invade..."We have been attacked by demonically… Corrupted superhumans. I had feared that that was where Angelika had been sent, but even though I am-" He smiles at her. "-overjoyed that she is safe, that leaves open the question of where they come from."
Oh, boy... He's going to be very curious about that, isn't he?I generate a construct of Demon Supergirl and the sarcophagus we found her in.
"Did they look like this?"
Welp. Hey, OL? Next time you see Truggs, assimilate his ass without pause? He deserves it for all the shit he's caused. This is just the topping on a shit sundae...Overman flickers as he moves around the images to better study them.
"I do not recognise the sarcophagus, but the distortion of the mouth? Yes, that is what they look like. Who was she?"
Interesting that he recognised the name. Historical records from the looted Kryptonian tech, or a meeting from one of his prior visits to alternate Earths?"We think she is Kara Zor-El."
He looks mildly surprised. "She is alive?"
Welp, Earth-Hell's presumably lost quite a few named superheroes and supervillains, then... A Superman fighting without holding back can make quite the bloody mess."Yes? By a combination of kryptonite and theurgy, we were able to take her down without… Lasting physical damage. She's still completely out of it mentally, so there isn't much point in trying to question her at this stage and I wouldn't want to risk a telepath's sanity to force the issue. We also might have captured their version of Nabu. Doctor Mist is interrogating him now." I frown. "You haven't captured any of them alive?"
"The cultists have suicide devices in their heads. I have not wanted to risk the lives of my soldiers in trying to take them alive. And I have not wanted to risk civilians by pulling my punches when I stop their superhumans."
At least her friends haven't been hurt too badly? So there's that as an upside...Angelika's face falls. "How many have their been?"
"Fourteen with superhumans. Dozens without. Your team are all well, but there have been many deaths. We do not even know what they want."
Planning to do a little recruiting, OL? That'd be interesting, having another you running around Earth-16 (since I suspect he'd rather leave Earth-10, whatever connections he's made there...)"Your version of me. What power ring did he have when he appeared?"
"Orange, like you."
Admittedly, it takes a little practice to get to that level..."If you want to find out what motivates someone, orange power rings have some rather useful functionality in that regard."
A mild frown. "He did not mention that."
Well, the trick is making sure they go wibbly in useful ways..."There you go. I like to think that I'm pretty good with-" I hold up my rings. "-my rings, but I didn't get this good in two days. After two days I was struggling to maintain my focus in combat situations, let alone do anything clever."
"There is no particular reason why the ring could not be returned to him. But our tests showed that those who used it became mentally unstable."
Pfah. That's no trouble."If you're not ready for it. I used to perform an hour of meditation a day, making sure I maintained an awareness of all of my desires and objectives. It is a risk, but it's a manageable one."
"He also does not have a lantern to recharge it with."
More likely Truggs fucked up hard, and just didn't care. If he's got any historical context for National Socialism at all, it's probably modern, where the opinion is 'It's bad!'"I can sort him out there. I can make my.. own."
How likely do I think it is that Truggs has… What, provoked a planet full of demon-tainted superheroes into attacking a world with a national socialist-derived society? I mean, if someone asked them I could sort of see them trying to justify it in those terms, but… As Angelika said, the genocide was conducted before she was born. You could justify it if the people you were unleashing the demons against were the people who carried it out, but I hardly think that it's the same when the people you're attacking are their great grandchildren.
Evidently some time, given there's been dozens of incursions, especially ones Karl's been involved in.And it's not as if the demons would care anyway.
"How long has it been happening for?"
I rather suspect any meeting between the Reichsmen and the Justice league would be... Tense at best."It began not long after Angelika vanished. That was why I assumed that the two events were linked."
"Is anyone going to be following you?"
Kind of trusting, but if what Karl says is true, you have a common enemy to handle."No."
"Okay, then I think we need to head back to the Watchtower and find out what Dr. Mist has learned."
Angelika's face falls. "How many have there been?"
Heh, checking with his daughter if he can be trusted. Karl's quite a reasonable fellow, if you ignore the National Socialist thing.
I rather doubt it's been over a year since she disappeared. I don't see Karl being that patient looking for her
And given Earth-10's reigning philosophy, the Sheeda might never exist there. Short of a total societal collapse altering things...
Welp, Earth-Hell's presumably lost quite a few named superheroes and supervillains, then... A Superman fighting without holding back can make quite the bloody mess.
Planning to do a little recruiting, OL? That'd be interesting, having another you running around Earth-16 (since I suspect he'd rather leave Earth-10, whatever connections he's made there...)
I'm impressed he lasted that long. Guessed he tried to keep his head down
Do you ever feel like giving it up?Paragon thinking he's sane and avoided the negative effects of the Orange Light never ceases to amuse.
Thank you, corrected.