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My bad. I forgot he existed and had to edit that segment.
I concur. He did was far more prepared going to witch world than this.Did Paul really build a party for a raid to a demon earth without a single Magic user?
Is he concussed?
The fact they've made no mention of going into space before shifting? They were with Dr. Balewa when he sent them thru. No suggestions of moving it upwards. Then no mention of space or Paul creating a environment shield to explain their ability to talk in a place with no atmosphere. Let alone how Demon Superman speaks to them without air to transfer the vibrations.
Sounds good! Paul should really get those made.See, my first start would have been to drop mega-spelleaters from orbit or something.
Probably should have offered them information in exchange.Points for thinking to ping the local Lantern Corps, though I doubt the bobbleheads will offer you any aid.
The only thing I really think he should have included if nothing else was telling him why they were here. Not that the planet is ruled by monsters but that the planet of monsters has been invading parallel Earth's. Are the GLC fine with other Earth's suffering this fate? They supposedly already fought and loss once. Do they wanna face a force stockpiled with the corrupted versions of their now enemies from hundreds of Earths?"You're in a restricted area, Lantern. Leave now."
"I'm an Orange Lantern from a parallel universe. Please send whatever records you have relating to Earth, and ping the Guardians for the secure stuff."
"I am highly sceptical of your claims."
"You can check whether or not I'm a Green Lantern easily enough and you already know my location. If I'm already on Earth, there's no further downside to giving me information."
"It is a deathworld ruled by monsters."
"Yes, that's why we're here. Anything you can do to help would be appreciated. Thank you, goodbye."
Is Overman referring to Hitler or Ubersmech when he says "He could not raise a child""His sister Helga was the closest I had to a stable mother figure. I found out later that it was deliberate; they did not want their 'Man of Tomorrow' to feel personal loyalty to any one person. Other than the Fuhrer, but it was clear to all but the most ideologically blind that he could not raise a child."
The fact they've made no mention of going into space before shifting? They were with Dr. Balewa when he sent them thru. No suggestions of moving it upwards. Then no mention of space or Paul creating a environment shield to explain their ability to talk in a place with no atmosphere. Let alone how Demon Superman speaks to them without air to transfer the vibrations.
Is Overman referring to Hitler or Ubersmech when he says "He could not raise a child"
16th September 2012
19:26 GMT
Back on Earth Prime, there once was a deal between Marvel and Detective Comics wherein they gave each other the opportunity to use near-copies of each others characters.
DC took Doctor Octopus, Magneto and Doctor Doom and made Gorgon, Doctor Diehard and Lord Havok. I never read any of the original comics, but they were brought back briefly when the Captain Atom version of Monarch went on a rampage in a fairly pointless crossover event that didn't go anywhere.
Marvel took the Justice League and made Squadron Supreme, which I didn't read either. But years later they brought them back in Supreme Power, which started strong and then sort of stopped. I bought the first couple of collections because I liked…
Paragon has spent the past year plus just powering through or ignoring everything that's annoyed him.It feels like a poorly planned and rushed party with the wrong equipment when the only credible magic expert is basically Paul and he's basically a hobbyist.
It is somewhat refreshing to see him make a tactical mistake this large but seems out of character given his typical overpreparedness.
"Pre-Industrial Revolution" -- Yes, I know that it looks like this means a revolution that was pre-industrial. "Pre-Industrial-Revolution" is technically incorrect but sometimes attested as a way to avoid that interpretation. (Pedantically speaking, this ambiguity is resolved by using "Preindustrial Revolution" if you really mean that.)
Comma instead of semicolon.There aren't that many metahumans capable of flight in the world; perhaps a thousand at most.
Thank you, corrected."Pre-Industrial Revolution" -- Yes, I know that it looks like this means a revolution that was pre-industrial. "Pre-Industrial-Revolution" is technically incorrect but sometimes attested as a way to avoid that interpretation. (Pedantically speaking, this ambiguity is resolved by using "Preindustrial Revolution" if you really mean that.)
But hyphen(s) or not, it's still a proper noun, so it needs capitalized.
Comma instead of semicolon.
I'm not sure there was really so much as a deal as a general agreement not so sue each other for 'similar' characters. I mean the separation between your examples of this 'deal', Squadron Supreme from '71 and The Extremists from '08 was 37 year
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought Kryptonians from Earth 16 don't have freeze breath?Superman opts to open his mouth and the air before him turns to ice. It doesn't appear to disable any of our attackers, but the ones exposed to it are backing of in a hurry.
tough. Puts me a little in mind of a little in mind of the manhawks
presumably some else is teleporting them to here. Okay, railgun, load spell eaters,
Okay, railgun, load spell eaters, see if I can get a shot through-.
Though I am wondering how Demon Superman can see us. We're over the horizon, so unless he's firing through-.
According to Greg, not even regular gust of wind super breath.Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought Kryptonians from Earth 16 don't have freeze breath?
I'm not sure but I think you're missing a closing - somewhere in this. Looking at the "-nothing serious " line there's a closing -, followed later by an opening - and, later still another opening -.Two red rays blast from Overman's eyes, precisely trimming feathers from three of the closest and causing them to plummet towards the ground.
-nothing serious. The claws clearly have magic-enhanced sharpness, but if that wasn't enough of an edge-
Superman opts to open his mouth and the air before him turns to ice. It doesn't appear to disable any of our attackers, but the ones exposed to it are backing of in a hurry.
-to kill them, I think we can be confident that we have their measure. The ones attacking my barrier are piercing the construct but they aren't making it fall apart in the way some magic effects do.
-can't reach around to remove, while not being so heavy that they can't at least somewhat control their descent. I evade another birdman and then wrap him in construct chains.
brakes -> breaks
It's amazing how few metaphysically powered flyers ignore the laws of aerodynamics and gravity like that. Makes it much easier to mess with natural flyers. Same way nearly all fights in space seem to align to one horizontal plane and shared Z-axis...16th September 2012
19:29 GMT
No, not a-
I fly up and invert, putting the flight path of the-
Hmm... Few winged humanoid races in primary DC Earths like this. Northstar's people?-harpy, the head is the wrong shape.
-creature below me. As it completes its lunge I punch down, my gauntlet hitting it in the back just between the wing joints.
Huh, yup. It's believable that they might escape the Daemons predations, since they stick to high altitudes and latitudes."Gwk!"
I didn't feel anything break, but it's flying a good deal less steadily now. Hm, tougher than normal muscle without being super tough. Puts me a little in mind of a little in mind of the manhawks, or the aven from Magic: the Gathering. Bird people. So they fly with wings. Simple enough.
Every downed flier means at least one other has to peel off to rescue them... Smart move.Three fly at Angelika but she pirouettes through the sky, striking wings and heads with relative gentleness, causing them to tumble down through the air without falling to their deaths. The birdpeople aren't wearing the 'S', so presumably they're not on Demon Superman's side.
"Do you have some way-"
Heh. He's kind of spoiled for choice, even with demon magic in the air.She swerves, grabs a forearm and leg and swings her assailant into her neighbour.
"-to bind them?"
Worrying, but not major. I doubt they'd put poison on their talons...Er, okay, amount of lift required to keep a humanoid body in the air… Chains that bind their arms and leg that their claws-
Two scrabble at my construct shield as Overman and Superman recover enough to throw off the bird people trying to dog pile them. I see a few shallow cuts, but-
Ooof, talk about clipped wings. Those ones might be grounded for some time...Two red rays blast from Overman's eyes, precisely trimming feathers from three of the closest and causing them to plummet towards the ground.
-nothing serious. The claws clearly have magic-enhanced sharpness, but if that wasn't enough of an edge-
...Yeah, this seems odd. Unless Supes himself is caught off guard, it might work better if Overman tries the breath and Supes the beams. Or have Supes looks surprised for a moment, as if he didn't realise he could do that... Or maybe it's something he learned via Torquasm classes?Superman opts to open his mouth and the air before him turns to ice. It doesn't appear to disable any of our attackers, but the ones exposed to it are backing of in a hurry.
-to kill them, I think we can be confident that we have their measure. The ones attacking my barrier are piercing the construct but they aren't making it fall apart in the way some magic effects do.
Boy, talk about multiple trains of thought. Interesting that the ring isn't translating, unless they aren't really saying anything...-can't reach around to remove, while not being so heavy that they can't at least somewhat control their descent. I evade another birdman and then wrap him in construct chains.
"Gkhhharrr!"
That works. At least he isn't falling outright, so... Mercy win?Okay, titanium with carbon nanotubes should be strong enough, lock his forearms behind his back, bind them to the base of his wings to make flapping awkward and add iron weights and release. As required, the birdman falls but with one bitter glance up at me gets his wings into a glide position.
"It's a bit-"
Heh. Does it happen to look like a Thanagarian mace, for that ironic 'Only I get this joke' moment?I generate a construct mace and thump a birdwoman in the chest.
"-of a fiddle, but I can-"
Sounds like a friendly mage on their side. Might want to try and talk them down, then. The fact you're not killing anyone might help in that respect.Another bird shimmers into being behind Superman. He catches it around the throat and hurls it at one of its ice-coated colleagues. That's… Interesting. How are they teleporting here? They aren't teleporting around the combat zone themselves, so presumably some else is teleporting them to here. Okay, railgun, load spell eaters, see if I can get a shot through-.
"Orange Lantern." Superman gets hold of another bird person and-
Ow. Okay, not killing, but that has to hurt. Guess Supes is kind of okay with getting rough if they aren't human...Snap!
"G-caw!"
-brakes their wing part way along its length before dropping the owner. Another semi-controlled descent to the ground.
Like father, like daughter. Why do I get the feeling this is something they've done before?"Focus on undoing whatever demon magic-"
Angelika checks over Overman's wounds before copying his attack of choice, burning feathers with flashes from her eyes.
The Kryptonians seem to have things well in hand, after all..."-is controlling them. We can fight them just fine."
"Sir."
Al-right then. I fly down, catching up with the birdman I chained up.
Ah, OL. Only you could casually chat with someone trying to kill you not a moment ago so easily."Hello there. Can you understand what I'm saying?"
Something about him -probably the magic running through his skin- is keeping me from getting a precise scan, but as far as I can tell he should be a sophont. The cranial volume and humanoid frame, combined with the tactical abilities and purpose they've displayed are strongly indicative, and I can't see any sign of remote external control.
Getting the feeling Empathic Vision will be very unreliable here, because of the demonic taint..."I've been authorised to experiment on you with magic. If you verbally respond, it's much likely to be a productive exchange."
Still nothing, though he tries to alter his flight path away from me and his eyes are moving around as he desperately looks for a way out. I'm not seeing fear, but that might just be due to the disruption.
...And Demon-Superman sticking his oar in. Goes to show you how powerful he is, at least.Well, I've still got this railg-.
The sky above me turns red, the shield construct I had up there is destroyed and about a dozen birdmen are incinerated. Huh. Well-.
Can't really blame them for messing up, as unprepared as they were."You! You have brought his wrath!"
"Possibly." I shoot him in the chest, and the runes on his claws fade away. "But there's not much you can do about it other than persuade us to leave."
...Really powerful, it seems. More evidence that the demon controlling him doesn't give a shit about the planet any more.Though I am wondering how Demon Superman can see us. We're over the horizon, so unless he's firing through-.
Ring?
Oh. He's firing through the planet's crust. I can see the line of steam where he's boiled the waters of the Pacific. Right, there's nothing stopping him seeing me, but if he's using some sort of magic detection then he's blind to me.
Hmm... some manner of shamanic ally, then. Probably a priest of their god or a hedge-wizard."What did you do to my blessing!?"
"Nullified it. So is this your natural form?"
To be fair, three of you were wearing a variation of the S-badge. Not on your foreheads, true, but still, what did you expect?"Yes! We are not weak humans!"
"And not a demon. Interesting. Why did you attack us?"
I don't think he's too concerned about collateral damage. As in, he'd laser an entire island to kill one person..."We cannot survive the Demon Superman's wrath! You are drawing it!"
"But if he just kills us, what's the problem for you?"
Huh, an actual 'Orcus on his throne' moment... Still, better than Darkseid on your sofa or the like..."For years he has just sat there! The last thing we want is for him to awaken!"
"And you couldn't have just told us that?"
Win-win all round. You won't have to deal with OL, for a start."Mortal beings fighting amongst themselves amuses him. He would be content to watch."
"You don't appear to have the force to bring us down. Given that, would you be prepared to call the attack off? You can send us somewhere more dangerous and give someone else a chance to kill us?"
And that's something they can get behind, if it stops the madness. Though it probably sounds mad to try and fight..."Why are you even here?"
"Someone in this parallel opened a portal to the alternate reality we live in. We're here to stop the problem at the source."
Let's hope it's a 'blue beam to space' scenario, where stopping Demon-Superman turns off all the other demon-stuff instantly... Wouldn't be easy, and shit would probably still be effed up..."You want to fight the Demon Superman?"
"Purify him, ideally. But yes."
Well, that was easy. Then again, birdman here probably wants them gone either way. Help them or not, at least they won't be drawing the bad guys' attention to them.The bird man considers that.
"Unbind me, and I will take your words to our leader. He may make decide to deal with you. Or he may destroy you himself."
I smile. "Deal."
Worrying, but not major. I doubt they'd put poison on their talons...
Ow. Okay, not killing, but that has to hurt. Guess Supes is kind of okay with getting rough if they aren't human
Like father, like daughter. Why do I get the feeling this is something they've done before?
Superman opts to open his mouth and the air before him turns to ice. It doesn't appear to disable any of our attackers, but the ones exposed to it are backing of in a hurry
Oh... Well... That's several levels of power above Paragon...Oh. He's firing through the planet's crust. I can see the line of steam where he's boiled the waters of the Pacific. Right, there's nothing stopping him seeing me, but if he's using some sort of magic detection then he's blind to me.
Thank you, corrected.Remove one 'a little in mind"
'and legs'
'someone'
I though he used mage slayers for the railgun.
Multiple lines of thought were interrupted.I'm not sure but I think you're missing a closing - somewhere in this. Looking at the "-nothing serious " line there's a closing -, followed later by an opening - and, later still another opening -.
Thank you, corrected.
Yes. It basically involved him stopping molecular vibrations in his lungs and then exhaling. It's something he's learned precisely because it's low lethality....Yeah, this seems odd. Unless Supes himself is caught off guard, it might work better if Overman tries the breath and Supes the beams. Or have Supes looks surprised for a moment, as if he didn't realise he could do that... Or maybe it's something he learned via Torquasm classes?
Awesome! Is Superboy kryptonian enough to also do this after some training? Or will we only see Superman, Kara Zor-El, Match, Kara Zor-L, Overman, and Overgirl do this?Yes. It basically involved him stopping molecular vibrations in his lungs and then exhaling. It's something he's learned precisely because it's low lethality.
They teleported to where Paul and the others are. I wouldn't be surprised if where they came from constantly keeps an eye on the world's undisputed ruler and decided to attack the things that seem to have gotten him to stop sitting around and do something.If demon Superman is an ocean away how do the hawk-people know he's awake.