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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Raven's father, a demonic god who rules over at least one universe in its entirety, traditionally worshipped by the Cult of Blood, ie the all but official religion of that country mentioned.
I know who Trigon is, I was asking about the connection between him and Zambia. Thank you for telling me.

I wonder what has stopped the Cult of Blood from calling Trigon in so far, if that's what they're trying to achieve.
 
I know who Trigon is, I was asking about the connection between him and Zambia. I wonder what has stopped the Cult of Blood from calling Trigon in so far, if that's what they're trying to achieve.

That country is apparently the headquarters of the Church of Blood, so it's kinda like their version of Vatican City.

And they also might not be able to call in Trigon either due to lacking a Raven, or because Rakkar was preventing it somehow.
 
Two corrections needed.

16th September 2012
21:05 GMT -5


Pain!

"Con-tact."

Hellfire burns around my armour and scorches my body. And inside, I can feel it burn at my metaphysique, my constructs and environmental shield shimmering as it's attacjed directly. And I realise that Michael Holt is a lot more intelligent that any demon.

"Fuel for Him."

16th September 2012
21:09 GMT -5



-Baroness Reiter twitches the twitch of someone used to moving fast who has now stopped moving.

"I've got this. You can-."

"I need to stay in case Crusader need to be repositioned."
 
I know who Trigon is, I was asking about the connection between him and Zambia. Thank you for telling me.

I wonder what has stopped the Cult of Blood from calling Trigon in so far, if that's what they're trying to achieve.

I imagine Raven died in the apocalypse or she got going before the demonic ether turned her into Daddy's Little Girl.

Because Demonic Raven is very very bad. Raven jobs and jobs hard.

At one point a demon tells her "You could devastate it (the world). Turn the Heavens to ash. Destroy planets. Consume fire and air. Make dark the eternal night. Blot out every star in the sky!"
 
Two corrections needed.

16th September 2012
21:05 GMT -5


Pain!

"Con-tact."

Hellfire burns around my armour and scorches my body. And inside, I can feel it burn at my metaphysique, my constructs and environmental shield shimmering as it's attacjed directly. And I realise that Michael Holt is a lot more intelligent that any demon.

"Fuel for Him."

16th September 2012
21:09 GMT -5



-Baroness Reiter twitches the twitch of someone used to moving fast who has now stopped moving.

"I've got this. You can-."

"I need to stay in case Crusader need to be repositioned."
Thank you, corrected.
 
So, smartest humans. I don't know who Mr. Zoat thinks the two smartest humans are, but I would guess Dr. Sivana and Lex Luthor. Dr. Sivana has the best scientific and technical mind. So much so that he has no need for the benefits of conventional society, and no desire to pursue them, so he acts in a very anti social manner. Then there is Lex Luthor. He has an excellent mind for business, strategy, and political manuevering, while also having few failings in terms of technical knowledge. But he is incredibly prideful and paranoid, making him prone to becoming obsessed with defeating or removing of anyone he deems a threat. In the same section that Paul was talking about the smartest humans, he listed Batman. I don't know if this was an unrelated mention, or if the implication was that Batman was a super genius. They call him the world's greatest detective, and I can't exactly say that he isn't. He is an incredible sceptic, and probably has countermeasures against most things he could reasonably be expected to have countermeasures against.

Any other obvious smartest human contenders?
 
I'm kind of hoping Mr. Holt got Alan's old ring, one not connected to the Guardians. Otherwise, there will be problems because whatever he does, the Guardians will not like. It's just the way they are built!
 
"Nabu of Cilia, you belong to the Orange Lantern Corps."
I wonder if they managed to separate the Assimilated Corrupted Nabu yet. I would love to see Paul making use of the construct a bit more. Especially since recalling Nabu into his ring should also give Paul all of Nabu's thaumaturgical knowledge. Fun.
 
So, smartest humans. I don't know who Mr. Zoat thinks the two smartest humans are, but I would guess Dr. Sivana and Lex Luthor. Dr. Sivana has the best scientific and technical mind. So much so that he has no need for the benefits of conventional society, and no desire to pursue them, so he acts in a very anti social manner. Then there is Lex Luthor. He has an excellent mind for business, strategy, and political manuevering, while also having few failings in terms of technical knowledge. But he is incredibly prideful and paranoid, making him prone to becoming obsessed with defeating or removing of anyone he deems a threat. In the same section that Paul was talking about the smartest humans, he listed Batman. I don't know if this was an unrelated mention, or if the implication was that Batman was a super genius. They call him the world's greatest detective, and I can't exactly say that he isn't. He is an incredible sceptic, and probably has countermeasures against most things he could reasonably be expected to have countermeasures against.

Any other obvious smartest human contenders?

I believe in comics Lex is usually the smartest, and then either Bruce or Ray as second. I go with Bruce personally, as he, Lex, and Holt are all experts in a bunch of fields and can learn and do a lot quickly as well.

Although Sivanna is a very skilled inventor, I am not sure he is quite s omnidisciplinary in his skills as the others.

Sure there are specialists better than the 3 I go with, but only in the specialty. From raw intelligence those 3 cover so much ground.
 
Krummkreuz (supplementary, Renegade Option)
17th September 2012
21:32 GMT -7


"Psst!"

I frown in puzzlement as I look around-. Yes, pony doing what they think is a stealthy approach outside the bay windows. A quick scan reveals it to be one Prince Blueblood, an individual with whom I have had next to no interaction during my time in Equestria. I think he's… Something in the diplomatic service? Whatever it is, it's nothing to do with the internal modernisation program that Luna is pursuing. Even the military stuff; when a foreign nation can already throw a sun or a moon at you, there's little reason to worry about them having a slightly more effective transportation infrastructure as well.

"Grayven?"

Luna cocks her head slightly to the side as she notices my attention straying from the engineers she was talking to. The occasion of my birthday was a good excuse to gather the pony faces for a few projects we're getting off the ground together without making it a full-on state occasion. They all seem fairly competent, though with all due deference to Miss Glimmer they all have the appropriate cutie marks. I rather imagine that once a concern gets above a certain size you get more ponies with business cutie marks rather than manufacturing cutie marks and that's something I'm going to have to watch out for.

I lean in and nuzzle the side of her face.

"I'm sorry, dear heart, but I do believe that someone is trying to get my attention."

She leans into my nuzzle, the sides of our lips briefly pressing against one another. Then she looks around, spotting the prince almost immediately.

"Ah. Then you may take your leave. We believe that We can hold the fort until your return."

"Back shortly."

I actually turn my head to kiss her on the cheek before stepping away from the conversation and trotting out of the palace and into the garden. Of course, nothing about running a company requires the managers to understand the product. But such people are useless for innovation and the state's monopsony means that there won't really be a capitalist economy to manage.

"How might I be of assistance, Prince Blueblood?"

He sticks his head out from behind a bush.

"How did you know it was me?"

"Magic."

"Ah. Yes." He looks around to check that the way is clear, then cautiously walks out from around the bush. "At your service, sir."

"And I, yours."

"You've made my life a little more interesting, you know."

"Oh? One of the obvious things, or are you getting blowback in the foreign office?"

"My title comes from the fact that I'm the heir of Princess Platinum of Unicornia. The title had become… Something of a joke, given that the only other equivalents for over a thousand years were alicorns. But thanks to you, we know that Old Unicornia is not an eternally frozen wasteland inhabited only by windigos."

"So you actually own land over there?"

"In theory. In practice I rather doubt that the residents would accept that idea. Fortunately, I'm also the Duke of Canterlot, so I imagine that I will survive."

"I rather got the impression that Celestia was an autocrat."

"Yes, but she's only one mare. It's true that she holds political authority due to her own power without needing feudal supporters, but she still needs educated ponies to form the government and enact her will. Equestria is far more egalitarian than Unicornia was, but even today a fair few major landowners and wealthy businessponies have titles they can trace back to the old homelands."

I nod.

"No legal privileges?"

"There's no inheritance tax on estates, but other than that, no."

Hm. Interesting. "What was it that you wanted?"

"You were recently seen in the company of Miss Rarity of Ponyville."

"Yes?"

"That was after you had a… Public dispute with her?" I nod. "I was wondering if you could… Share your insight. In how you patched things up."

"It's nothing complicated. I was clear about the reasons why I behaved as I did and I offered to make it up to her. Why do you ask?"

He shifts awkwardly. "Have you been told about the Grand Galloping Gala?"

"Big once a year party at the palace for Equestria's great and good?"

"That's the one. I was… Taking a stroll in the gardens to get a few moments to myself, and… A mare I didn't recognise approached me."

"That mare being that national heroine Rarity, Bearer of the Element of Generosity."

"Obviously I know that now! But at the time, Aunt Celestia was keeping a lid on what happened to return Aunt Luna to us. They weren't anything like the figures of national renown that they are now."

"So she was offended that you didn't recognise her? That shouldn't be-" He cringes. "-too.. big a problem?"

"I… Um."

"Yes?"

He sighs, looking guilty. "I assumed that she was a gold digger and decided that I'd deal with the situation by being rude enough to drive her away."

I nod, though from what I remember of Rarity's motivations his deduction was entirely correct if you replaced 'gold' with 'status'.

"Awkward, but I imagine that a stallion in your position has to dodge-."

"It didn't work. I went from impolite to abrasive to rude and she nonetheless kept with me until I used her as cover against an… Errant cake. Giving everything else that happened that evening I didn't think much of it at the time, and then…"

"And you found out when?"

"It wasn't until Nightmare Night, when Aunt Luna showed me a picture of the Ponyville celebrations. She mentioned that Twilight's friend Rarity didn't appear due to stressing herself over all of the costumes she was designing. I made a few.. enquiries, and it seems that I made an ass of myself. Ah-." He looks over my shoulder towards the gardener. "No offence intended."

"None taken."

"Well, there's no magic word that will fix things. If you really want, I can have a word about it with her and smooth things over sufficiently for you to explain your actions. But really, the best thing to do might well be to simply turn up in Ponyville and… Metaphorically tear the bandage off in one go. Ah… Maybe with Twilight serving as a moderator?"

He regards me sceptically.

"Is that really all you did?"

"I agreed to wear a ridiculous outfit at her behest and gave her some business advice. It might help if there was something you had prepared to do that. Something that you could use to demonstrate that you were really far more humble and self-effacing than the impression you originally gave."

He shifts uncomfortably.

"How ridiculous, exactly?"

18th September 2011
11:43 GMT -7


I watch as Blueblood checks his duck costume once more, nods to me, then proceeds inside Rarity's shop.

"Welcome to Carousel Boutique, where everything is AAAGH!"
 
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They all seem fairly competent, though with all due deference to Miss Glimmer they all have the

Maybe 'Glimmer, they all'

power without need feudal supporters,

'needing feudal'

and… A mare I didn't recognised approached me."

'recognise'

How ridiculous, exactly?"

18th September 2011
11:43 GMT -7


I watch as Blueblood checks his duck costume once more, nods to me, then proceeds inside Rarity's shop.

"Welcome to Carousel Boutique, where everything is AAAGH

Well this was hilarious.

Also I'm not sure if it's just from my side, but the link in the spoiler box for this chapter may be broken.

Every time I click on it, it just says error.
 
17th September 2012
21:32 GMT -7


"Psst!"

I frown in puzzlement as I look around-. Yes, pony doing what they think is a stealthy approach outside the bay windows. A quick scan reveals it to be one Prince Blueblood, an individual with whom I have had next to no interaction during my time in Equestria. I think he's… Something in the diplomatic service? Whatever it is, it's nothing to do with the internal modernisation program that Luna is pursuing. Even the military stuff; when a foreign nation can already throw a sun or a moon at you, there's little reason to worry about them having a slightly more effective transportation infrastructure as well.
Until the first time they go to fight a war, and find trains far more efficient for moving troops than shank's pony. Something which revolutionised warfare by the end of the nineteenth century in our world.

"Grayven?"

Luna cocks her head slightly to the side as she notices my attention straying from the engineers she was talking to. The occasion of my birthday was a good excuse to gather the pony faces for a few projects we're getting off the ground together without making it a full-on state occasions. They all seem fairly competent, though with all due deference to Miss Glimmer they all have the appropriate cutie marks. I rather imagine that once a concern gets above a certain size you get more ponies with business cutie marks rather than manufacturing cutie marks and that's something I'm going to have to watch out for.
Indeed. At least you'll know pony managers will at least know what they're doing, unlike some in our world. With any luck, at least.

I lean in and nuzzle the side of her face.

"I'm sorry, dear heart, but I do believe that someone is trying to get my attention."
Which is pretty rude, as his attention ought to be on his lady. :p

She leans into my nuzzle, the sides of our lips briefly pressing against one another. Then she looks around, spotting the prince almost immediately.

"Ah. Then you may take your leave. We believe that We can hold the fort until your return."
Ah, well, if she gives her permission... You're in the clear, Grayven, go attend to bro business.

"Back shortly."

I actually turn my head to kiss her on the cheek before stepping away from the conversation and trotting out of the palace and into the garden. Of course, nothing about running a company requires the managers to understand the product. But such people are useless for innovation and the state's monopsony means that there won't really be a capitalist economy to manage.
And yes, that is an actual term: Monopsony. At least you can focus on finding the right ponies for the job, rather than the ones who seem best.

"How might I be of assistance, Prince Blueblood?"

He sticks his head out from behind a bush.

"How did you know it was me?"
Well, he is kinda important, darn it. Something of a household name in Canterlot, if I remember right...

"Magic."

"Ah. Yes." He looks around to check that the way is clear, then cautiously walks out from around the bush. "At your service, sir."
...He's a Unicorn (if a burly one.) How would he not have thought of that already... :D

"And I, yours."

"You've made my life a little more interesting, you know."
Oh, stop complaining. I bet your job was boring as most of the time anyway.

"Oh? One of the obvious things, or are you getting blowback in the foreign office?"

"My title comes from the fact that I'm the heir of Princess Platinum of Unicornia. The title had become… Something of a joke, given that the only other equivalents for over a thousand years were alicorns. But thanks to you, we know that Old Unicornia is not an eternally frozen wasteland inhabited only by windigos."
Oh, right. So, getting a little nervous about the disposition of your ancestral land?

"So you actually own land over there?"

"In theory. In practice I rather doubt that the residents would accept that idea. Fortunately, I'm also the Duke of Canterlot, so I imagine that I will survive."
So, if that's all you were concerned about? I suspect Grayven would like to get back to work...

"I rather got the impression that Celestia was an autocrat."

"Yes, but she's only one mare. It's true that she holds political authority due to her own power without need feudal supporters, but she still needs educated ponies to form the government and enact her will. Equestria is far more egalitarian than Unicornia was, but even today a fair few major landowners and wealthy businessponies have titles they can trace back to the old homelands."
True. If nothing else, I doubt she'd bother filling out the sort of paperwork a relatively modern society would require to function. So someone has to do it for her so she can sign off on it...

I nod.

"No legal privileges?"

"There's no inheritance tax on estates, but other than that, no."
A rather hefty amount of Bits, I suspect, but hardly breaking the national coffers.

Hm. Interesting. "What was it that you wanted?"

"You were recently seen in the company of Miss Rarity of Ponyville."
Don't worry, it was nothing romantic. She's still available.

"Yes?"

"That was after you had a… Public dispute with her?" I nod. "I was wondering if you could… Share your insight. In how you patched things up."
Ah. He's still in her bad books after that little debacle? I suppose if nothing else, Rarity knows how to hold a grudge...

"It's nothing complicated. I was clear about the reasons why I behaved as I did and I offered to make it up to her. Why do you ask?"

He shifts awkwardly. "Have you been told about the Grand Galloping Gala?"
Well, a jilted lady can be excused for being a little irrational about certain things. :rolleyes:

"Big once a year party at the palace for Equestria's great and good?"

"That's the one. I was… Taking a stroll in the gardens to get a few moments to myself, and… A mare I didn't recognised approached me."
Sure sounds romantic, huh? I'm sure Rarity intended for it to be such... Pity about her timing...

"That mare being that national heroine Rarity, Bearer of the Element of Generosity."

"Obviously I know that now! But at the time, Aunt Celestia was keeping a lid on what happened to return Aunt Luna to us. They weren't anything like the figures of national renown that they are now."
Little hard to be discreet after the things they tend to get dragged into...

"So she was offended that you didn't recognise her? That shouldn't be-" He cringes. "-too.. big a problem?"

"I… Um."
So, to sum up, you managed to set a new Equestrian record by putting all four hooves in your mouth at once?

"Yes?"

He sighs, looking guilty. "I assumed that she was a gold digger and decided that I'd deal with the situation by being rude enough to drive her away."
Well, you managed that quite well.

I nod, though from what I remember of Rarity's motivations his deduction was entirely correct if you replaced 'gold' with 'status'.

"Awkward, but I imagine that a stallion in your position has to dodge-."
I rather imagine he's more diplomatic about it, though, since most of the ladies he has to refuse tend to be local?

"It didn't work. I went from impolite to abrasive to rude and she nonetheless kept with me until I used her as cover against an… Errant cake. Giving everything else that happened that evening I didn't think much of it at the time, and then…"

"And you found out when?"
Yes, I suspect his opinion of her took a sharp about-face when he found out who she was...

"It wasn't until Nightmare Night, when Aunt Luna showed me a picture of the Ponyville celebrations. She mentioned that Twilight's friend Rarity didn't appear due to stressing herself over all of the costumes she was designing. I made a few.. enquiries, and it seems that I made an ass of myself. Ah-." He looks over my shoulder towards the gardener. "No offence intended."

"None taken."
Boy, that fella really gets around. :D

"Well, there's no magic word that will fix things. If you really want, I can have a word about it with her and smooth things over sufficiently for you to explain your actions. But really, the best thing to do might well be to simply turn up in Ponyville and… Metaphorically tear the bandage off in one go. Ah… Maybe with Twilight serving as a moderator?"

He regards me sceptically.
And possibly as a referee. Especially if Rarity's first response is a spell-blast...

"Is that really all you did?"

"I agreed to wear a ridiculous outfit at her behest and gave her some business advice. It might help if there was something you had prepared to do that. Something that you could use to demonstrate that you were really far more humble and self-effacing than the impression you originally gave."
...He's going to go overboard with this, isn't he?

He shifts uncomfortably.

"How ridiculous, exactly?"
...Really, really overboard...

18th September 2011
11:43 GMT -7
Heh, don't think we didn't notice the subtle timeskip. Paragon's shepherding of Nazi's is that boring, eh?

I watch as Blueblood checks his duck costume once more, nods to me, then proceeds inside Rarity's shop.

"Welcome to Carousel Boutique, where everything is AAAGH!"
:eek: "Get that... That MONSTROSITY of an outfit out of my shop!" Well, that's one way to break the ice...

Heh. I bet Grayven's having fun messing with Blueblood. I suppose if the citizens of Ponyville think one thing about Grayven, it's that he's always entertaining. Even if things tend to get a bit loud, but that's a common thing around town. Still, good to see Blueblood trying to make amends for an honest mistake.
 
occasions -> occasion
'needing feudal'
'recognise'
Also I'm not sure if it's just from my side, but the link in the spoiler box for this chapter may be broken.

Every time I click on it, it just says error.
Thank you, corrected.
Maybe 'Glimmer, they all'
I think it's alright.
You are a writer MLP fanfic segment.
Why even bother if you can't even make the obvious puns?

monopsony -> monopony
 
I always did like the interpretation that he recognized Rarity was just another gold-digger who thought she was entitled to have a Prince, so he was going out of his way to fuck with her.

I also liked it when the comics made him good at diplomacy. Blueblood as some one note annoying jackass is such a boring and uninteresting interpretation that way too many people are all too happy to settle for.

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And as a bit of a return to the talk of Earth 10 and the previous update where it being mentioned that a lot of people were just growing up in a fascist society.

Honestly, most of the Germans of Earth 10 probably qualify as good people. They're probably not even really thinking about the unpleasant things and just going about their lives. It's not like the average German is ever actually going to meet an "undesirable". The government already got rid of them. I mean, sure, the ones directly overseeing those hellish reservations could be called nasty, and their are less than pleasant elements to their society even outside the more active forms of fuckery, but most of them are just growing up in that society and living pretty normal lives under utopic living conditions. And even for those overseer's . . .

Hell, even in real life you had Nazis who could personally oversee a death camp then go home and be a kind and loving husband and father. Like that wacky bitch Himmler. Which actually seriously fucked up his daughter. He was such a good dad to her that she wasn't capable of reconciling Himmler as her father with Himmler's role in the Holocaust. Spent her entire life trying to rehabilitate the image of the SS and arguing that the Holocaust was a lie created to tarnish the image of the Nazis.

That aside, for more religious stuff . . . Officially, Germany would probably be that Nazified Christianity. A fair few Germans would probably be "normal" Christians, since a lot of German Christians under the Nazis were fine being Nazis and Christians but resistant to the idea of Nazifying Christianity. Then again, they'd have had 70 years to work on promoting their Nazi Christianity.

For some of Hitler's own beliefs on the matter . . . Well . . . He claimed to be a Christian. Mostly for reasons of pragmatism. He was personally not a fan of Christianity's "meekness" and actually somewhat wished Germans had been Muslims because he thought Islam's militancy would have meant Germany would have conquered all of Europe centuries ago. He also somewhat admired Japan's take on spiritualism.

Whatever he actually believed, he believed in something. Pinning it down can be awkward but he supposedly at least somewhat bought into Aryan Warrior Jesus idea and thought that Paul had corrupted his teachings to make Christanity "weak". We also know he didn't have any respect for atheism. He disparaged atheists as "uneducated men who had returned to the state of being animals."

I know we're probably not going to see much more of Earth 10 but it still kind of interests me to speculate on how it has developed.
 
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I think my favorite part about the pony segments is how Paul becomes so utterly relaxed and at peace.

No Maltusians.
No New Gods.
No Beyonders.

Just pastel ponies with more magic than sense, themselves only living on a single planet named Wilson, which is itself existing in a universe so disparate from the DC multiverse that not even the Anti-Monitor can dream of threatening it.

And sometimes Discord.
 
You are a writer MLP fanfic segment.
Why even bother if you can't even make the obvious puns?

monopsony -> monopony

If he did this nobody would read it and hear "oh monopsony but pony haha", he'd get three different comments saying he spelled and used "monopoly" wrong and you know it :p

also "monopspony" is dreadful
 
I think my favorite part about the pony segments is how Paul becomes so utterly relaxed and at peace.

No Maltusians.
No New Gods.
No Beyonders.

Just pastel ponies with more magic than sense, themselves only living on a single planet named Wilson, which is itself existing in a universe so disparate from the DC multiverse that not even the Anti-Monitor can dream of threatening it.

And sometimes Discord.
Seeing as a boom tube can reach it I don't think the anti-monitor would have any issues.
 

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