• The site has now migrated to Xenforo 2. If you see any issues with the forum operation, please post them in the feedback thread.
  • Due to issues with external spam filters, QQ is currently unable to send any mail to Microsoft E-mail addresses. This includes any account at live.com, hotmail.com or msn.com. Signing up to the forum with one of these addresses will result in your verification E-mail never arriving. For best results, please use a different E-mail provider for your QQ address.
  • For prospective new members, a word of warning: don't use common names like Dennis, Simon, or Kenny if you decide to create an account. Spammers have used them all before you and gotten those names flagged in the anti-spam databases. Your account registration will be rejected because of it.
  • Since it has happened MULTIPLE times now, I want to be very clear about this. You do not get to abandon an account and create a new one. You do not get to pass an account to someone else and create a new one. If you do so anyway, you will be banned for creating sockpuppets.
  • Due to the actions of particularly persistent spammers and trolls, we will be banning disposable email addresses from today onward.
  • The rules regarding NSFW links have been updated. See here for details.

With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

What is the current status of Paragon-verse Light?

Ocean Master was dead and then came back for Oceanus. Queen Bee got killed by Firebrand. Klarion murdered by OL.

And they had Satanus join I think, but he also got murdered/usurped by Mammon.

It feels like they have been a non-factor for a while. But maybe Quinn teames up with them. Which would be bad to a degree.

Queen Bee was killed by Teth Adom in the Paragon-verse...because the idiot either couldn't stop herself from trying to use her powers on him, or she just isn't capable of shutting down her powers at all.

So...yeah, Adom ripped her in half...on live television.

EDIT: Ninja'd.
 
Can't Paul warp space with his ring? I swear I read him do that.
He has at least two ways to do it. The ring-way which was a form of FTL travel and the Orange Magic way he used to disable Priest's barrier around Malvolio. Neither of those are precise. Hmm, there was a third technological method used when Paul fought Johnny Sorrow on Themyscira, but that was stabilization rather than intentional manipulation.



What's funny is that after they captured Satanus and Demon Constantine escaped Belle Reve, Paul advised Waller to add the Tower of Fate to Belle Reve to secure magical prisoners. John Quinn even had an off-screen conversation with Waller about it. There's various evidence that implies that Waller didn't go for it, but if she had followed Paul's advice Quinn would have had access to the Belle Reve's magical prisoners to add to this mess, like Satanus and whoever else, maybe that Dr Mr Gotham guy.

Uh oh. Ffffffffudge. There are almost certainly a few sets of power-nullifying collars here then, which is bad news for Sandy.
For anyone forgetting, Mr Gotham was the weak vampire Paul defeated in record time after setting up his Corps.
 
"Fate put me in an oubliette, isolated from all magic. I don't know how much time passed. Then something happened, the spells keeping the prison secure weakened. I don't know what it was-."

"Me killing Nabu, probably."
So basically LePaul killing Nabu had knock on effects LePaul didn't even consider.


Who could have guessed....
 
For the Queen Bee stuff people are talking about again . . . If I remember right, she had tried to mind control him at one point so he threatened to kill her if she ever tried again. Then when they ended up meeting for the second time she was too scared not to reflexively release pheromones.

Paul was right there and probably could have saved her since I doubt death was instantaneous, but instead basically just shrugged his shoulders and let her die.
 
Or to put it more rationally, Faust is a tactical threat while the Lords of Order are a strategic threat. The SI is happy for the first to deal with the second.

It's still a very stupid thing to do, since the Lords are likely to try and stop Faust from doing more evil shit and telling him how to potentially kill them is a bad idea.

For the Queen Bee stuff people are talking about again . . . If I remember right, she had tried to mind control him at one point so he threatened to kill her if she ever tried again. Then when they ended up meeting for the second time she was too scared not to reflexively release pheromones.

She only tried to control him once and it ended with him ripping her to shreds.
 
For the Queen Bee stuff people are talking about again . . . If I remember right, she had tried to mind control him at one point so he threatened to kill her if she ever tried again. Then when they ended up meeting for the second time she was too scared not to reflexively release pheromones.
I don't think it was fear, I think it was arrogance, but I might be wrong. Probably only Mr Zoat knows.

EDIT: Arrogance definitely lead to her death in the Renegade timeline, because Graven was both prepared, and underestimated massively how stupid her pride would make her.
 
So Nabu only cared about Order which made him act as an amoral dick and Quinn sounds like a straight-up villain. He's keeping slaves, controlling them with Anti-Life of all things, and is working with the Light. Are there any good Order-Mages?
 
I'm a little sad that Paul didn't assimilate this guy, since it seems like having a pocket magician would be cool and useful, even if most of his power comes from artefacts that he probably wouldn't use after being assimilated.

Also, interesting to hear that these demon guys are a big enough deal that they might have fought off the Reach in a potential future.
 
I'm a little sad that Paul didn't assimilate this guy, since it seems like having a pocket magician would be cool and useful, even if most of his power comes from artefacts that he probably wouldn't use after being assimilated

That may take time that he doesn't have and Faust was infected with Anti-Life, so Paul may be worried about what could happen if he assimilates him.

Also, interesting to hear that these demon guys are a big enough deal that they might have fought off the Reach in a potential future

It may not be their power as much as it was the Reach simply not knowing how to deal with a magical entity.
 
That was probably just LePaul being wrong.

(Vaermina response)

The Reach can barely account for their own Scarabs doing something new, if a couple of eldritch entities powerful enough to pose even a small problem for The League through a minor pact decided to fuck around with them, especially a version of The Reach that doesn't know jack about magic, then they'd be more likely to abandon Earth than they would to stay. Either they got everything they needed and the losses aren't worth it or they didn't and the losses really aren't worth it.
 
(Vaermina response)

The Reach can barely account for their own Scarabs doing something new, if a couple of eldritch entities powerful enough to pose even a small problem for The League through a minor pact decided to fuck around with them, especially a version of The Reach that doesn't know jack about magic, then they'd be more likely to abandon Earth than they would to stay. Either they got everything they needed and the losses aren't worth it or they didn't and the losses really aren't worth it.
Except Earth is full of those kind of entities who would have been fucking with The Reach the entire time they were occupying the planet.
 
Except Earth is full of those kind of entities who would have been fucking with The Reach the entire time they were occupying the planet.

Which... only furthers my point? Earth is a Death World that any empire stupid enough to invade is going to want to abandon as soon as they realize that. The Reach may be particularly stupid and stubborn, but that doesn't mean they have infinite resources to throw at the problem and a sudden blitz by some uber powerful magic entities that can put up a decent showing against empowered Kryptoniains by proxy is going to turn any op FUBAR fast.

And, again, after a certain point if they haven't gotten what they want/need from the planet all the losses from territorial demons and gods on top of a sudden assault by beings beyond their mortal comprehension isn't going to engender a desire to stay.

Edit:This is a Vaermina response.
 
That was probably just LePaul being wrong.

Ehh....

On one hand, the Demons Three are pretty beefy in terms of mystical power in their comic incarnation, having once ruled the galaxy and doing shit like setting up a barrier preventing time travel.

I even remember a line in Sandman when Dream went to retrieve his helmet and found Hell ruled by a triumvirate, Lucifer mentioned that the Demons Three supported the Great Darkness when it rose up which necessitated the formation of the triumvirate in response.

Granted, that was before the Lucifer comic got written, IIRC, and Lucifer got "Yeah, I could solo Hell if I ever actually cared" on his stat sheet.

On the other hand......like, every time the Demons Three show up outside of a comic they're kinda just the punchline to a joke? Between that and how Young Justice rolls, I wouldn't expect them to be that big a deal.
 
If they're anything like their comics counterpart, they ruled the entire Milky Way galaxy a few billion years ago. They're absolutely a big deal.

I doubt they're that powerful here, but they may at least be powerful, but on a planetary level, not a galactic one.
 
It's been a while since this technique showed up so I could be wrong about this, but I think all previous instances used coloured text.
Thank you, corrected.

Please bare in mind that while the timing is convenient, the SI doesn't actually know why the Reach left Earth.
 
Plus depending, the Reach might have wanted Earth because Earth has agents who can fight magic and all they need to do is get those on their side. They just need a handful of quislings, essentially.
 
Tower Offence (part 12)
8th November 2012
11:49 GMT -5


I throw out chains of orange light but the rapidly growing distance means that they move slower than Faust does. I fly at him and no, no, I can barely see the him-shaped blur now, the patch of grass I was standing on forming an effective wallpaper to my existence.

So I swing my chains around, sending them into the 'sides' of my prison, orange light radiating outwards as I

consume

the alteration-

"How predictable."

-to local-.

The colour vanishes, my surroundings now a featureless void. That… Wasn't supposed to happen. My spell eater isn't heating up so I'm not under the effect of an illusion-.

"Can you still hear me, Orange Lantern?"

I turn around, and… The void is still featureless. "Okay, that was actually clever. Some sort of.. tether that only the person trapped can cut?"

"Something like that." Faust's spectral head appears in the void in front of me. "I copied it from the people who imprisoned my sponsors."

"I'm not being your slave for a hundred years, if that's what you're expecting to get out of this."

"Hah! Hardly. That countdown only starts if I draw on your power. If I just drop the crystal I palmed into the ocean, you'll be trapped until the sun dies!"

"Okay. So is this just a boasting session to fluff your ego, or are you establishing a negotiating position?"

He grins. "I'm starting with boasting."

There we go. Do that some more.

"I'm mildly impressed that you admitted to it."

"I was imprisoned by Nabu and then subjected to the Anti-Life. I'm honest enough to realise that I could do with something to boost my ego."

"Okay. Then, well done. Klarion fared worse against me than you did."

"Some superheroes treat their fellow humans differently." He looks pensive. "I'm not convinced that you've pulled out all the stops."

"I haven't, but my passive defences were supposed to deal with things like that. How did you get around them?"

"I know! It's like you don't exist to my arcane senses! Constantine's work?"

"Among others."

"Clever, but it doesn't stop area effects or manually targetted effects."

"Did you consider using the drain itself as a marker?"

"Of course, but this was easier. Do you have any idea how hard it is to locate the source of a drain when the thing you use to detect it is being drained?"

Interesting. He doesn't appear to have realised that the drain comes from my amulet and not my tattoos. On the other hand, that only became 'common' knowledge in the villain community after he was imprisoned, so it's not really surprising.

"Yes. That's why I designed it like that."

"Not that it does you any good now."

"You do realise that Mister Zard will be hunting you as well, now that you're free of the Anti-Life?" The floating head pulls back slightly. "It was Zard, wasn't it? When I lost the ability to see my colleagues?"

"… Yes, we were all dispatched once the brownies reported the disruption. But he'll go after your friends first. Anti-Life does not encourage initiative. I simply need to be elsewhere when he's done. So tell me, Lantern: how did you breach the defences of the Tower of Fate?"

"In the library, there's a window. Through the window you can see a dream storm."

"Those are common enough. What of it?"

"We came in through that."

He gurns. "Non-sense. If you're going to lie, at least make it believable."

"Sandman's prophetic power comes from Morpheus himself. It wasn't easy, but that's how we got in."

He considers my answer for a moment, then appears to dismiss it.

"Fine. Don't tell me. With you as a hostage, I'm sure that I'll be able to convince one of your friends to show me the-"

Got you.

showmetellmeIwanttoknowwanttolearnwanttobecomemoreandbiggerandgreater

"-way ou-."

I hit him with my armour's taser, then clamp a suppression chain around his neck.

"Gah!"

"Good effort."

He grabs at the collar, feeling the solid metal with a look of near-panic on his face. "What are you?"

"See, if you hadn't crossed me just then, you'd still have had access to magic while we hunt down Zard and Thorn."

"They'll kill me; I'm defenceless."

"Good. I'm a soldier before I'm a superhero, and after Roanoke you're hostis humani generis. Getting put back in the oubliette is the best thing that could happen to you, and more than you deserve. Your only hope is living long enough for me to link up with Blue Lantern and praying that he talks me down. Now FEED ME!"

An orange wave shoots through the farmland around us, not coming from me but terminating with me. The layout of the vines changes at once, reaching in all directions as Alan slashes at the explosive growth and it tries to envelop him from all directions. Sanderson has opted for a T-1000 approach by replacing his forearms with blades. I can't… I can't see The Demon, but-

Railgun and fire.

-Dr. Balewa and Mr. Zard are having a magic duel I can barely perceive, white light glowing from Dr. Balewa as the undulating vines are forced to keep their distance. Zard clutches his face for a moment, meaning that he doesn't even have any chance at all to dodge when my railgun round takes his right leg off at the knee.

He doesn't cry out, just collapses to the ground as the wound starts pumping out blood. Dr. Balewa glances my way for a moment before dashing towards the fallen Wizard.

"I thank you for shutting down his defensive spells, but shooting him was not necessary."

"No, it was precautionary. The Anti-Life fragment is aimlessness equals purposelessness, and it encourages servitude to those uncertain as to their life's direction."

"Then this will be-" His left hand motions to the wounds, which knits closed. "-relatively easy."

His right hand taps Zard on the forehead, causing his eyes to snap open.

"AAAAAAAAAAAAAGGHHH!"
 
Last edited:
8th November 2012
11:49 GMT -5


I throw out chains of orange light but the rapidly growing distance means that they move slower than Faust does. I fly at him and no, no, I can barely see the him-shaped blur now, the patch of grass I was standing on forming an effective wallpaper to my existence.
Ah, the good old infinite plain of repeated textures so familiar to those who manage to break the bounds of an open-world map. Personally, I always like the games that have a mechanic to toss you back to the centre, like 'Motocross Madness' punt.

So I swing my chains around, sending them into the 'sides' of my prison, orange light radiating outwards as I

consume

the alteration-
Let's see a confinement spell hold up to that...

"How predictable."

-to local-.
And of course Faust expected that. Even though he's not seen OL in action since Roanoke. I see he's exploiting some part of a Wizard's expected high intelligence.

The colour vanishes, my surroundings now a featureless void. That… Wasn't supposed to happen. My spell eater isn't heating up so I'm not under the effect of an illusion-.

"Can you still hear me, Orange Lantern?"
At least he's the sort to monologue. After all, he's not a Good Man.

I turn around, and… The void is still featureless. "Okay, that was actually clever. Some sort of.. tether than only the person trapped can cut?"

"Something like that." Faust's spectral head appears in the void in front of me. "I copied it from the people who imprisoned my sponsors."
Sneaky, but ever emblematic of Faust's methods. Always copying, never inventing...

"I'm not being your slave for a hundred years, if that's what you're expecting to get out of this."

"Hah! Hardly. That countdown only starts if I draw on your power. If I just drop the crystal I palmed into the ocean, you'll be trapped until the sun dies!"
Don't count your chickens before they're hatched, Faust. :sneaky: OL's a tricksy fellow.

"Okay. So is this just a boasting session to fluff your ego, or are you establishing a negotiating position?"

He grins. "I'm starting with boasting."
Why negotiate with someone you think you have right where you want them to be - Under your thumb.

There we go. Do that some more.

"I'm mildly impressed that you admitted to it."
And OL is smart enough to take advantage of that towering ego. Some men just love to hear themselves talk.

"I was imprisoned by Nabu and then subjected to the Anti-Life. I'm honest enough to realise that I could do with something to boost my ego."

"Okay. Then, well done. Klarion fared worse against me than you did."
Admittedly, OL made a lot more preparations against Klarion. Faust didn't need that kind of prepwork, being only a mere mortal.

"Some superheroes treat their fellow humans differently." He looks pensive. "I'm not convinced that you've pulled out all the stops."

"I haven't, but my passive defences were supposed to deal with things like that. How did you get around them?"
Just for future reference, you know... Since you're clearly not going to let him out, are you?

"I know! It's like you don't exist to my arcane senses! Constantine's work?"

"Among others."
Let me guess, Faust, you want a set? Pity he's not likely to help such an irredeemable arsehole.

"Clever, but it doesn't stop area effects or manually targetted effects."

"Did you consider using the drain itself as a marker?"
If only in a general 'Okay, this area is not showing up on my scrying. Maybe it's blank, maybe it's important.' fashion...

"Of course, but this was easier. Do you have any idea how hard it is to locate the source of a drain when the thing you use to detect it is being drained?"

Interesting. He doesn't appear to have realised that the drain comes from my amulet and not my tattoos. On the other hand, that only became 'common' knowledge in the villain community after he was imprisoned, so it's not really surprising.
Of course, the possession of said amulets is heavily policed, I expect? With people expected to report if one goes missing in any way?

"Yes. That's why I designed it like that."

"Not that it does you any good now."
Yes, do keep talking. Any news about your cronies?

"You do realise that Mister Zard will be hunting you as well, now that you're free of the Anti-Life?" The floating head pulls back slightly. "It was Zard, wasn't it? When I lost the ability to see my colleagues?"

"… Yes, we were all dispatched once the brownies reported the disruption. But he'll go after your friends first. Anti-Life does not encourage initiative. I simply need to be elsewhere when he's done. So tell me, Lantern: how did you breach the defences of the Tower of Fate?"
Ah, the hook is in the water. Now to see if he bites.

"In the library, there's a window. Through the window you can see a dream storm."

"Those are common enough. What of it?"
Of course, this bit is going to be a bit hard to believe. A man like Faust would never put himself at risk like they did...

"We came in through that."

He gurns. "Non-sense. If you're going to lie, at least make it believable."
Before anyone asks: Gurning means he's making a disgusted face.

"Sandman's prophetic power comes from Morpheus himself. It wasn't easy, but that's how we got in."

He considers my answer for a moment, then appears to dismiss it.
Well, if the truth isn't enough for you, you silly git...

"Fine. Don't tell me. With you as a hostage, I'm sure that I'll be able to convince one of your friends to show me the-"

Got you.
Wow, he bit hard, hook, line and sinker right down the gullet. I suspect OL is going to enjoy this bit.

showmetellmeIwanttoknowwanttolearnwanttobecomemorenadbiggernadgreater

"-way ou-."
Gotcha.

I hit him with my armour's taser, then clamp a suppression chain around his neck.

"Gah!"
I can just imagine Faust having a moment of 'what the bloody hell?' there.

"Good effort."

He grabs at the collar, feeling the solid metal with a look of near-panic on his face. "What are you?"
Pity he isn't a Yellow Lantern, or he could actually say 'Your worst nightmare' with a straight face and mean it. :p Sadly, the classic 'I'm Batman' comeback falls a bit flat if there actually is a Batman around...

"See, if you hadn't crossed me just then, you'd still have had access to magic while we hunt down Zard and Thorn."

"They'll kill me; I'm defenceless."
Well, tough titties for you, you right old load of bollocks. You made this bed, now you get to lie in your mess.

"Good. I'm a soldier before I'm a superhero, and after Roanoke you're hostis humani generis. Getting put back in the oubliette is the best thing that could happen to you, and more than you deserve. Your only hope is living long enough for me to link up with Blue Lantern and praying that he talks me down. Now FEED ME!"

An orange wave shoots through the farmland around us, not coming from me but terminating with me. The layout of the vines changes at once; reaching in all directions as Alan slashes at the explosive growth and it tries to envelop him from all directions. Sanderson as opted for a T-1000 approach by replacing his forearms with blades. I can't… I can't see The Demon, but-
Good to see Sandy embracing the usefulness of his silicate form. But a missing Constantine is a cause for concern, all right.

Railing and fire.

-Dr. Balewa and Mr. Zard are having a magic duel I can barely perceive, white light glowing from Dr. Balewa as the undulating vines are forced to keep their distance. Zard clutches his face for a moment, meaning that he doesn't even have any chance at all to dodge when my railgun round takes his right leg off at the knee.
Well, cut him off at the knees nicely, that did.

He doesn't cry out, just collapses from the ground as the wound starts pumping out blood. Dr. Balewa glances my way for a moment before dashing towards the fallen Wizard.

"I thank you for shutting down his defensive spells, but shooting him was not necessary."
I don't know, you don't feel a little glad to see him in pain? He was trying to kill you, after all.

"No, it was precautionary. The Anti-Life fragment is aimlessness equals purposelessness, and it encourages servitude to those uncertain as to their life's direction."

"Then this will be-" His left hand motions to the wounds, which knits closed. "-relatively easy."
And that'll make it easier to patch himself and Alan up in a second, since I presume he's still bleeding.

His right hand taps Zard on the forehead, causing his eyes to snap open.

"AAAAAAAAAAAAAGGHHH!"
Not an unreasonable reaction to having a chunk of Anti-Life burnt out of your mind by the power of Life.

Ah, always good to see some jackasses getting what they deserve. Especially the sort of evil jackasses DC loves to make their one-note villains into. I expect that'll settle the vines down a bit too, and give the heroes a chance to ask a few pointed questions. :rolleyes: Not that I expect these chuckleheads to have any useful answers, given they were basically brainwashed. Still, knocking a couple of Quinn's flunkies off should help when the inevitable confrontation comes.
 

Users who are viewing this thread

Back
Top