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They have power rings for that...
Though, rather than beating him, adding him to the churchbells might be an option...
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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)
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Though, rather than beating him, adding him to the churchbells might be an option...
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Possible corrections, pick the one that carries the right nuance:
"I don't remember if any version of X-Men I watched mentioned his name"
"I don't remember any version of X-Men I watched mentioning his name"
"I don't remember any version of X-Men I watched that mentioned his name"
You've been hyphenating this in previous updates.
Ah, going from being the beaten to being the beater.
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Another possibility, likely in-universe where Magneto isn't contractually required to twirl his mustache every fifteen minutes, is akin to the one some Transformers continuities use for the origin of the term 'Decepticon' - "They applied the term to us, so we made it our own".
After all, the FoH and others no doubt had plenty of soundbites in which they referred to 'those Evil Mutants'...
Sublime.
Which is relevant to the version of Paul in Earth's Mightiest Heroes.
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The solo books about the (very long) lives of Belgarath and Polgara are also quite good. Like the Silmarillion to his main quartet's LotR, but focused on character and what it does to someone to live thousands of years and be the pawn of prophecy.
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The best thing to do about Kurt's half-brother is tell his daddy that he has been a VERY naughty boy and needs to have a good long "talk" with his father. Also maybe tell Logan about him.
It might be that she figures if Paul is determined enough to track herd own her to ask and not respond to her attempt at killing him with violence? That's close enough to love not to bother asking about. Also, given her long and troubled history? She may well think that love is nice but doesn't mean much if you can't support and protect your spouse.
It might be that she figures if Paul is determined enough to track herd own her to ask and not respond to her attempt at killing him with violence? That's close enough to love not to bother asking about. Also, given her long and troubled history? She may well think that love is nice but doesn't mean much if you can't support and protect your spouse.
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The TV Tropes page puts the Teen Titans universe with the Red Lantern as Earth 32. Looking back through a number of chapters, including the debut chapter, I didn't see that stated, but there is quite a bit of this story and comments.
Was it actually confirmed in any chapter or other posts?
I don't remember the show ever being stated to be an Earth 32, but I might have easily missed that.
Was it actually confirmed in any chapter or other posts?
I don't remember the show ever being stated to be an Earth 32, but I might have easily missed that.
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Yeah, it's like I said. A story this long with an author that interacts means that there's a lot to dig through, and that's before you factor in it being spread across three sites.
Do you remember what site or thread it might have been in?
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It was somewhere on this thread.
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Thank you, corrected.
Meanwhile on Earth 534834 (part 5)
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Earth 534834
8th February 1992
08:51 GMT -5
Guide dog sniffing cautiously at me from her position next to Irene Adler's legs, the woman herself faces my general direction with a frown on her forehead.
"I wasn't expecting to speak with you today."
And though I wouldn't be so gauche as to say it, I was expecting someone younger. Though I.. suppose that with her shapeshifting abilities, it's about as hard to guess Ms. Darkhölme's age as it is Logan's.
"Okay? I can leave if you want." I frown. "Ah. Does you not expecting to speak to me mean that I've got some sort of protection against prognostication or does it mean that I've inadvertently broken the universe?"
"I hope that the universe isn't that fragile." She pauses. "But you being here isn't helping. I know that I'm talking to you and I know nothing about this conversation."
I nod sympathetically. "I feel the same way, most of the time."
"Hm." She raises her right hand to her chin. "I heard nothing as you walked up the path. You might have been walking quietly, but I can hear your feet moving now. And you rang the bell. The other possibility is that you flew."
"The second one."
"Are you here to arrest me? My power doesn't lend itself to combat and I'm an old woman. I'd prefer to come quietly rather than be grabbed by a giant robot."
I shake my head. "Those aren't a thing anymore. And I can't arrest you unless I see you committing a crime right in front of me."
"One of Charles' adventurers?"
"One of his students. A.. mature student, obviously."
"Your name?"
The card's no good, because she's blind. I could add the Braille characters to it, but just thrusting something she can't see towards her seems a little rude. "I work under the name 'Orange Lantern'."
She steps back from her door. "You may as well come in. Try not to make too much of a commotion; I'm too old to keep moving every few years."
"Thank you." I frown. "I.. thought that your ability allowed you to walk around?"
She sidesteps around a hall table, a knob-ended cane lying on top of it. I follow her inside and shut the door, her dog coming forward to give me a few sniffs before returning to its mistress's side.
"It usually does. Anywhere where I will walk, I can look a moment or two ahead and use that to navigate. But with you here, I can't, because as far as my power knows there's no chance of this happening."
I nod. "And so no chance that you'll be where you are."
"Not talking to you." She leads the way into the kitchen. "There are any number of things that could cause me to be somewhere else in my own home."
I nod, glancing at the photographs on the wall. Some of a younger Ms. Adler and Ms. Darkhölme, some of other people I don't recognise. The one that draws my attention is a group picture of the two of them with Anne-Marie. Huh. I don't think she has a copy-.
"You've stopped. You're looking at the photograph."
"I was speaking to Ms. Darkhölme a few hours ago."
"Oh? How is she?"
"She was in good health. I think she's up to something evil, so I'm doing a three monkeys impression until it becomes overt." Wait a moment. "Don't you know?"
"I know roughly how well she's likely to be in a variety of situations. It's not the same."
I suppose that makes sense.
Inside the kitchen the dog walks over to its basket and flops down, watching its mistress. Ms. Adler picks up her abandoned mug of tea but leaves the newspaper where it is. Because she doesn't need to read it -she can't- but she can look into any future where she might read it and read it there.
"Well? What brought you here?"
"I read up on your file in Professor Xavier's records. I understand that you were going blind before your ability manifested?"
"That doesn't mean that my precognition didn't cause my blindness, just that it manifested first."
"If you like, I can give you a brain scan more accurate than anything available to human medicine. If it was a side effect or unrelated, it's easy for me to fix."
"Did Charles finally find a mutant healer?"
"Sorry, I don't have an x-gene. And I can only heal certain people. But in your case it's a service I'm happy to provide."
"And why am I part of the elect?"
"I'm Anne-Marie's boyfriend, and I'm here to invite you to our wedding."
I see the tea in her mug shake slightly, so she puts it down on the work surface.
"I didn't see that coming, either."
"No?"
"If anyone, I was expecting Gambit."
I frown. "Really? He didn't seem like the type."
"It wasn't likely. And you invited Raven."
"And Kurt."
"Kurt-? Did you tell Raven you were inviting him?"
"Yes. She didn't really react, but… I suppose that given how long it's been since she had anything to do with him, that.. may just be awkward for her rather than-."
"I wouldn't assume that." She looks thoughtful for a moment. "How long have the two of you been together?"
"About three months. I wanted to.. wait a little longer. She.. emphatically didn't. Um, Professor Xavier managed to transfer Carol Danvers' personality back into her so that's not an issue any more, and when she woke up she didn't seem to really remember Anne-Marie, so we… Probably got away with that."
"It was necessary."
I raise my right index finger. "It was probably necessary. I understand that sometimes you miss consequences."
"That's true." She nods. "And if I can't see you at all, then everything that I thought I knew about her future could be wrong."
"I love the Seldon Plan, and so does my good friend The Mule. But I'm not going to complain because if you hadn't done that I might not have met her. She might have stayed with the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants-."
"It was supposed to be in apostrophes."
"I'm sorry?"
"'Evil Mutants'. A place for those cast out of polite society because they were different and so of course they were evil. Creed took it as a challenge." She shakes her head with a grimace. "I've got no idea what she saw in him."
"Okay, but can you come?"
"Do you have a date?"
"I haven't actually asked her yet. Um. Do you have..? Any advice on..? How to go about that?"
"Oh good grief."
8th February 1992
08:51 GMT -5
Guide dog sniffing cautiously at me from her position next to Irene Adler's legs, the woman herself faces my general direction with a frown on her forehead.
"I wasn't expecting to speak with you today."
And though I wouldn't be so gauche as to say it, I was expecting someone younger. Though I.. suppose that with her shapeshifting abilities, it's about as hard to guess Ms. Darkhölme's age as it is Logan's.
"Okay? I can leave if you want." I frown. "Ah. Does you not expecting to speak to me mean that I've got some sort of protection against prognostication or does it mean that I've inadvertently broken the universe?"
"I hope that the universe isn't that fragile." She pauses. "But you being here isn't helping. I know that I'm talking to you and I know nothing about this conversation."
I nod sympathetically. "I feel the same way, most of the time."
"Hm." She raises her right hand to her chin. "I heard nothing as you walked up the path. You might have been walking quietly, but I can hear your feet moving now. And you rang the bell. The other possibility is that you flew."
"The second one."
"Are you here to arrest me? My power doesn't lend itself to combat and I'm an old woman. I'd prefer to come quietly rather than be grabbed by a giant robot."
I shake my head. "Those aren't a thing anymore. And I can't arrest you unless I see you committing a crime right in front of me."
"One of Charles' adventurers?"
"One of his students. A.. mature student, obviously."
"Your name?"
The card's no good, because she's blind. I could add the Braille characters to it, but just thrusting something she can't see towards her seems a little rude. "I work under the name 'Orange Lantern'."
She steps back from her door. "You may as well come in. Try not to make too much of a commotion; I'm too old to keep moving every few years."
"Thank you." I frown. "I.. thought that your ability allowed you to walk around?"
She sidesteps around a hall table, a knob-ended cane lying on top of it. I follow her inside and shut the door, her dog coming forward to give me a few sniffs before returning to its mistress's side.
"It usually does. Anywhere where I will walk, I can look a moment or two ahead and use that to navigate. But with you here, I can't, because as far as my power knows there's no chance of this happening."
I nod. "And so no chance that you'll be where you are."
"Not talking to you." She leads the way into the kitchen. "There are any number of things that could cause me to be somewhere else in my own home."
I nod, glancing at the photographs on the wall. Some of a younger Ms. Adler and Ms. Darkhölme, some of other people I don't recognise. The one that draws my attention is a group picture of the two of them with Anne-Marie. Huh. I don't think she has a copy-.
"You've stopped. You're looking at the photograph."
"I was speaking to Ms. Darkhölme a few hours ago."
"Oh? How is she?"
"She was in good health. I think she's up to something evil, so I'm doing a three monkeys impression until it becomes overt." Wait a moment. "Don't you know?"
"I know roughly how well she's likely to be in a variety of situations. It's not the same."
I suppose that makes sense.
Inside the kitchen the dog walks over to its basket and flops down, watching its mistress. Ms. Adler picks up her abandoned mug of tea but leaves the newspaper where it is. Because she doesn't need to read it -she can't- but she can look into any future where she might read it and read it there.
"Well? What brought you here?"
"I read up on your file in Professor Xavier's records. I understand that you were going blind before your ability manifested?"
"That doesn't mean that my precognition didn't cause my blindness, just that it manifested first."
"If you like, I can give you a brain scan more accurate than anything available to human medicine. If it was a side effect or unrelated, it's easy for me to fix."
"Did Charles finally find a mutant healer?"
"Sorry, I don't have an x-gene. And I can only heal certain people. But in your case it's a service I'm happy to provide."
"And why am I part of the elect?"
"I'm Anne-Marie's boyfriend, and I'm here to invite you to our wedding."
I see the tea in her mug shake slightly, so she puts it down on the work surface.
"I didn't see that coming, either."
"No?"
"If anyone, I was expecting Gambit."
I frown. "Really? He didn't seem like the type."
"It wasn't likely. And you invited Raven."
"And Kurt."
"Kurt-? Did you tell Raven you were inviting him?"
"Yes. She didn't really react, but… I suppose that given how long it's been since she had anything to do with him, that.. may just be awkward for her rather than-."
"I wouldn't assume that." She looks thoughtful for a moment. "How long have the two of you been together?"
"About three months. I wanted to.. wait a little longer. She.. emphatically didn't. Um, Professor Xavier managed to transfer Carol Danvers' personality back into her so that's not an issue any more, and when she woke up she didn't seem to really remember Anne-Marie, so we… Probably got away with that."
"It was necessary."
I raise my right index finger. "It was probably necessary. I understand that sometimes you miss consequences."
"That's true." She nods. "And if I can't see you at all, then everything that I thought I knew about her future could be wrong."
"I love the Seldon Plan, and so does my good friend The Mule. But I'm not going to complain because if you hadn't done that I might not have met her. She might have stayed with the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants-."
"It was supposed to be in apostrophes."
"I'm sorry?"
"'Evil Mutants'. A place for those cast out of polite society because they were different and so of course they were evil. Creed took it as a challenge." She shakes her head with a grimace. "I've got no idea what she saw in him."
"Okay, but can you come?"
"Do you have a date?"
"I haven't actually asked her yet. Um. Do you have..? Any advice on..? How to go about that?"
"Oh good grief."
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Oh she is just a Treat.
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See, finally someone that views the name the way it should be.
As an incredibly cringe, chunni name someone came up with in their teens because they thought it was cool, and now they can't get rid of.
Or as someone making a joke, others appearing to be 100% on board and getting it, until you realise the "joke" part went over everyone's heads and they took it literally.
"Yeah, we're evil!"
"For fucks sake, I was being sarcastic!"
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When I clicked on that link I briefly thought it was an old episode of Doctor Who with the white hexagon decor and dramatic dialog.
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I actually got that reference, though it is a bit obscure even for people who love Asimov's stories.
FYI, the mule was a mutant with mind reading and mental domination powers who merely by existing disrupted Seldon's plan to restore civilization as quickly as possible after the fall of the previous galactic civilization. Part of The Foundation series of stories.
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I hope this becomes a recurring thing between these two.
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Ah. Her gift having trouble dealing with his unusual nature, or has she been expecting someone else, I wonder? At any rate, if she wasn't expecting him, then she won't be able to know what he wants, or pull that always-annoying precognitive trick of answering questions you were about to ask...
I mean, she was born in the late 19th century. And given that mutant aging is inconsistently depicted over the years, this version might well be over a hundred years old... Which makes her original choice of costume (a slinky blue leotard, boots, gloves, hooded cloak and gold mask) a very courageous choice.
True, a lot of Earth-616 metaknowledge is downright useless when applied to the Animated canon. Lots and lots of changes when they adapted stuff. Sometimes streamlining, sometimes... Confusing. Not least because some of the things we know now weren't written back then.
Hardly something she's unaccustomed to, though a lot of the mutants she's associated with over the years haven't been fliers...
At least she's sanguine about her chances in a fight, and the likelihood of someone wanting her for her talents.
No hiding his age here, thank you. It probably helps that a lot of the X-Men are in their twenties, so he wouldn't have felt a need to lie.
Heh. This must be a complete surprise to her, then.
Though I suspect that application is a case of 'which direction will I not bang my shins into something?'
Interesting. He's a complete blind-spot in her future-vision, and disrupting it in proximity. Fascinating implications.
To be fair, even a blind person can memorise the layout of a house, given time and practice. Ever tried to walk to the bathroom in the dark and find yourself taking the right number of steps to reach the door without using a hand to guide yourself?
...Rogue didn't have a copy, since I bet you just scanned it. Nice little bonus present for her.
...Masculine. Though I suspect Irene here would have no problem with that.
And now I'm picturing her getting visions of different alternate universes' timelines. Given how predictably similar some things are, they're probably applicable.
Not a braille copy, I presume. Since she hasn't exactly got Daredevil's ink-sensitive touch. And man, is that ever a stretch of 'I'm blind, so my other senses are better.'
Ooh, planning to see if the blindness is required for her powers, or if you can give her sight back? That'd be an interesting twist. And a nice wedding present.
Being able to see for the first time in a hundred years might be quite the experience. and depending on his level of 'I want to do nice things for Rogue's family', she might find herself rejuvenated too.
Pity this Lantern doesn't have access to the Danner formula. Or Cap's Super-soldier serum, on that note. ...Unless that was included in the files OL shared with his alternates.
Boom! Conversational bomb dropped. "Hello, I'm your future son-in-law. Surprise."Given the almost obsessive desire writers have to hook Rogue up with Gambit, I'm not surprised.
...Seriously, are her visions just her being able to see the 'canon' timeline playing out?
It really feels that way. Would be funny if any predictions related to things Lantern has altered were completely wrong... For this version of history, but not for the canon.True, Gambit has had a few bad experiences with marriage.
Well, not doing that would be a bit of a rude surprise.
Ah, now for a second round of motherly interrogation. And since Irene has different priorities, this won't come down to 'Rich? Powerful? Good.' like it did with Raven.
One of her long-term plans, eh? I suppose it did provide both women with remarkable character development over the years, but... It wasn't particularly pleasant development.
Gee, it's as if laying down events based on long-term predictions wasn't a marvellous idea.
And how would you pronounce that? 'The Brotherhood of Eeeviiilll Mutants', with a big dose of sarcasm on the 'Evil'?
To be fair, it's Victor fucking Creed, poster boy for evil mutants.
No, wait, animated canon. I'm sorry: 'Graydon' fucking Creed.Ah, see... That's one of the problems...
You said it, Charlie Brown.
Okay, wasn't expecting this, but it is a pleasant surprise. Irene always was a fun character in the comics, deflating Mystique's ego and seriousness with her subtle humour. Pity they felt the need to off her for Drama. I expect she's going to have a few headaches dealing with lantern, though, between his unpredictability and his... Inexperience? Uncertainty? In romantic matters.
Guide dog sniffing cautiously at me from her position next to Irene Adler's legs...
Perhaps '"I read up on your file in Professor Xavier's records." or delete the 'on'?
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Ah, I see what you mean.
It's not just that he was a mutant, it's that he was a psychic, and so powerful that he could act on a strategic scale. Psychohistory can't be used to predict the actions of individuals, but that usually doesn't matter because a role can be filled by anyone. At a certain point it's inevitable that someone will do a thing along certain lines. Except that where top tier superpowers are concerned, it matters a lot.
Thank you, corrected.
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Physically mature, maybe, but mentally...
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Not a braille copy, I presume. Since she hasn't exactly got Daredevil's ink-sensitive touch. And man, is that ever a stretch of 'I'm blind, so my other senses are better.'
Well it has sometimes been hinted that the chemicals that blinded him altered him to have enhanced senses.
Pity this Lantern doesn't have access to the Danner formula. Or Cap's Super-soldier serum, on that note. ...Unless that was included in the files OL shared with his alternates.
Even if he got some of those things, they may not work due to potential metaphysical differences between universes.
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Your boyfriend is an Idiot.
Irene he's not that bad!
Anne-Marie he's a good man with a good heart and it's obvious how much you love each other.
But the boy had a head full of rocks, well at least you have better taste in men than Raven.
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How did he shut those down? The organization that made them?
Assuming he didn't do any convenience editing?
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Paul has a knack for meeting older, cranky ladies who are exasperated by him.
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Oh, that link just took me down a Rabbit hole. Now I want to give the Books a try. I see Apple TV has made a TV show out of it, with Season 1 having aired and a Season 2 on the way. I wonder if I should watch that instead?
Can't find Book 1 for free anywhere (to see if I like it)
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I believe he previously mentioned the HUGE violation of Human Rights, along with the American Constitution that Giant Killer Robots Abducting Citizens Without Due Process it was. And really, earth based AI Master Mold vs Malthus AI Power Ring....I'm gonna go with the Ring. Now if we had Nimrod due to time travel shenanigans we might have more of a problem.
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she also had a woman who had perfect recall burned alive just because she didnt like the fact that said woman hated being a mutant.
okay but HOW did it happen? did he meet someone from the government? did he file a lawsuit? i mean he obviously can track down mastermould but how did he stop someone from restarting the project?
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The early episodes of the series involve the X-Men wrecking the factory and their database. The organisation that made it was the US government.
The SI doesn't have that power. And he finds plausible deniability useful where Xavier is concerned.
Go and watch the series.
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Doctor Who copied that guy.
They copied a whole lot of the big three in science fiction and they later went and copied the grandfather of science fiction, Jules Verne, cause why not?
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iirc she outright asked if the mutants had a good reason to feel threatened
plus having a sentinel wreck a mall makes for bad press
Trask got told by the president to stop after the x-men hit the mutant registration bureau
iirc she outright asked if the mutants had a good reason to feel threatened
plus having a sentinel wreck a mall makes for bad press