With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

[Darko]

[after defrosting a random ancient hidden on some random world]
"Ah you somehow gained possession of a power ring, I was unaware they made them in orange now."

"You know what this is?"

"Oh yes the Furling's had constructed a half dozen of them though it had some limitations.
something about daily recharging times and a vulnerability to certain colors of the spectrum.
If not for the difficulty and prohibitively resource intensive process of constructing them creating a rather insurmountable bottleneck we would have adopted the technology as well."

"The furlings were Malthusian?"

"Whats a Malthusian, I have been out of circulation for a bit you know

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That would be an interesting thing to happen.

I remember reading a fanfic where the Maltusians were a group of Gallifreyans that rejected the rest of their kinds use of time travel, so they went to the DC universe.

 

[PDV]

That would be an interesting thing to happen.

I remember reading a fanfic where the Maltusians were a group of Gallifreyans that rejected the rest of their kinds use of time travel, so they went to the DC universe.

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Time Trapper: Lol. Lmao, even.

 

[Mr Zoat]

"he managed"

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He's telling a story. That's intentional, even if it's not good grammar.

That makes a lot of sense in the context of things as it'd make no sense for the Ha'tak to have shields down in a battle scenario.

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Klorel's sponsor wasn't expecting a battle. As far as he knew, he'd already destroyed all of their defences.

He didn't. For regular Ha'taks, he made a Ha'tak scale cloaking device, but the majority of any upgrades Sokar had planned went into an entirely new model of mothership that's still in its prototyping phase.

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In the original timeline, certainly.

The standard theory for why we don't see shields, either then or when Klorel got shot down in the first place, and why Anubis's Ha'taks could ignore Ion Cannon fire is because they are so supposed to be shield piercers that could ignore standard Goa'uld shields but not Anubis shields with his Ancient modifications.

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If your shield can't stop ions, you need to go back to shield school.

 

[Someguy Somewhere]

If your shield can't stop ions, you need to go back to shield school.

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Spoiler: Hoth Ion Battery FIRE!

 

[Vaermina]

In the original timeline, certainly.

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You know, you could just have Paul be wrong instead of changing the timeline to make him right.

Because changing the timeline involves a lot of knock on effects you'll then have to deal with if you want to avoid plotholes.

If your shield can't stop ions, you need to go back to shield school.

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Then the Goa'uld need to go back to shield school, because that was the on screen reason that was given for how the Tollan's ion weapons were effective.

 

[Yargoth]

If your shield can't stop ions, you need to go back to shield school

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Then maybe there is an additional component in the energy blast from a tollan ion cannon, besides the ionized particles, that enables them to pierce normal Ha'tak shields.
Or, while not the usual definition of an ion cannon; the weapon might not actually fire ions, but some other exotic particles/energy, and the "ion" in its name comes from a process in the weapon that uses ions in its function. Making the weapon more of a "ion powered" cannon, or somesuch.

I do not recall any exact technobabble from the episode (and currently unable to watch it for reference), so my speculation might not line up to what is actually said about the weapons in canon.