With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

[PDV]

"Do you see the two-peaked one? Head for the valley between them."

"Alright."

I could just transition there, but he said 'fly'.

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He didn't say 'fly'.

 

[iamnuff]

Except I think he's actually insane, using the POV comic from Gotham Knights where he thinks everyone's trying to kill him

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He never displays that kind of paranoia in most runs.

Also, there's a couple if criteria for legal insanity. Or things that disqualify you, rather.

I forget most of them, buy 'capable of long-term planning' is one of them.
Because I'd you're really so out of touch with reality that you don't know what's going on, you wouldn't be able to make plans.
Or build bombs.
Or lead a gang.

Joker isn't crazy, he's just evil.

 

[Duke Long]

"That's the legal side of things. There's also the political side. Let's say that they are legally insane. For a… Stereotypical violent schizophrenic -and I should be clear that while people like that do exist, they represent a tiny proportion of the schizophrenic population- once they're in a straitjacket in a secure hospital, that's about it. There's very little they can do to hurt anyone. How contained was Poison Ivy?"

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It's nice that he takes a moment to speak against a harmful stereotype.

"Right. She wasn't. So even if she was insane… Maybe the voters want to consider whether or not they want to leave people that dangerous alive."

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…Then he says something which is definitely going to get him in trouble. He's not really wrong, though. Except that it curtails the feasibility of Suicide Squad-style operations, like was used during the Anti-Life.

Though come to think of it, I wonder how practical it would actually be to execute super-people like that? If they are reasonably good at escaping it might be difficult to hold them long enough to execute them, since it often takes well over a decade for the USA to get around to executing someone. Either it would be a major pain in the ass, or they'd have to change the laws around execution, neither of which seems ideal.

Edit: Though I don't know much about the subject, so maybe they could just speed up the process immensely without changing any laws? Maybe it's just usually a low priority for them?

 

[Mquz]

Here in America, in addition to cheerleaders, we have football mascots. And you can't tell me Gritty, with his assault allegations for punching kids, wouldn't be some sort of supervillain. I assume they just don't exist in DC comics

 

[Mr Zoat]

Missing an r

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Thank you, corrected.

For some reason I'm thinking that this is going to be chaotic and I'm hoping we see it.

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You will.

Which is silly, because all crops are 'genetically modified'. It's called selective breeding, and farmers have done it almost as long as there have been farmers. But suggest it's being done by scientists in white coats in labs, and people lose their minds...

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Sort of. There's more to it than that, and since it's been more than twenty years I can talk about it! Firstly, there's the issue of a company owning the patent on a particular novel cultivar. That could mean that a farmer wouldn't be able to keep a seed crop from one year to the next, either because of a licencing agreement or because it's infertile. That it turn grants a small number of agricultural businesses almost complete domination of the farming sector. Added to that the potential issue of what happens if a patented plant germinates on your land and you don't have a licence. Can they sue you?

Secondly, there's the fact that selective breeding involves making very small changes over vast periods of time. With genetic engineering significantly more divergent characteristics can be introduced. For example, a pesticide resistant form of cotton was created. Sounds useful, until you find out that the farmers dumps huge extra amounts of pesticide on it, slaughtering the local wildlife and killing their own crops because 'resistant' isn't the same as 'immune'.

Really, with how overwhelmingly corrupt we're told Gotham is supposed to be, the most unbelievable thing about the Joker is that he didn't fall down a flight of stairs. Or trip and fall onto several knives. Or mysteriously manage to shoot himself in the back 37 times.

The idea that not a single one of the cops would take matters into their own hands is pretty ridiculous.

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In the novelisation of Batman Forever, Two-Face gets out of Arkham by bribing a guard. The guard knew that he had the money, and the offer was entirely genuine. The problem came when he offered the guard double or nothing.

My guess is that other than Bullock, Gotham police are either corrupt enough to take a payment, fearful enough not to want to risk retribution, or honest enough not to do it.

He didn't say 'fly'.

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He did now.

It's nice that he takes a moment to speak against a harmful stereotype.

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I'm reminded of the Professor of Psychology who did a study to see whether it was possible to identify psychopaths from brain scans. He found a highly probable one, checked to see who it belonged to... And it was him. Bare in mind that he had a wife and children. He was surprised, but the more he thought about how he felt about people, the more it made sense.

 

[Someguy Somewhere]

The corruption in Gotham goes both ways. Same folks that might kill joker might not kill him for a fee. I'm sure in the comics others have used him as a distraction. I could see some of the Families paying to keep him and others around, if only to keep heroes busy with the super crimes, rather then the more profitable regular crimes.

 

[CrazyNoVa]

Is Paul trying to encourage people to pester the government so that it will FINALLY give the death sentence to supervillains?

 

[Bud-E]

Is Paul trying to encourage people to pester the government so that it will FINALLY give the death sentence to supervillains?

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I doubt it. I think this is just Paul's thoughts and opinions on the death penalty and the insanity plea? I would be cool if this led to a movement or bill being passed, but I doubt it's a plan.

 

[earlyriser]

I doubt it. I think this is just Paul's thoughts and opinions on the death penalty and the insanity plea? I would be cool if this led to a movement or bill being passed, but I doubt it's a plan.

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Enter Henry Knight, who is about to get a bunch of support when Klarion does his thing. Assuming that happens in Common Sense verse.

 

[Everes]

I remember reading this story when it first started. I stopped following it because I got caught up and forgot about it. Now it's at 3 million words. Holy moly man. Have a lot of catching up to do.

 

[Rebu]

Really, with how overwhelmingly corrupt we're told Gotham is supposed to be, the most unbelievable thing about the Joker is that he didn't fall down a flight of stairs. Or trip and fall onto several knives. Or mysteriously manage to shoot himself in the back 37 times

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https://www.fanfiction.net/s/3324571/1/Improv

https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/improv-batman-1-1.112542/

Don't you think people have tried?