With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

[PepeTheFrog]

What the fuck crawled up Clark's ass? He's not listening or thinking, just reacting.

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Imagine if you found out that Robin was actually kidnapped by Batman instead of adopted. Nothing else. Just that information. How would that change your perspective on Batman and Robin's relationship?
Clark has no idea about anything else to do with Sodam Yay other than the fact that he's an alien of a similar species to himself that's been seperated from his family. He's *now* finding out the other mitigating details.

 

[Ngamer11]

Imagine if you found out that Robin was actually kidnapped by Batman instead of adopted. Nothing else. Just that information. How would that change your perspective on Batman and Robin's relationship?
Clark has no idea about anything else to do with Sodam Yay other than the fact that he's an alien of a similar species to himself that's been seperated from his family. He's *now* finding out the other mitigating details.

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This self-righteousness is something I hope this incident will alleviate in the Justice League. It'll be necessary now more than ever since they're "not" taking over the world.

 

[Vaermina]

"Maybe she should ask her husband." This isn't-. This isn't helping. "Alright, look. I'll go and speak to Lantern Yat and Lantern Coutara and see if they're willing to speak to her. But if you're serious about this, you need to go to Daxam, and get an accurate idea what it's like. I recommend taking Martian Manhunter."

"To read their minds.

"Yes. Because if they're willing to talk to you, I don't believe for a moment that they're going to tell the truth." I stand, then head for the zeta tube. "Excuse me."

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I really want these people to just be completely reasonable.

Because it would be hilarious to see Orange Lantern enter one of "I can't be wrong" paranoia spirals because of this.

 

[boo600]

Paul just informed them that Sodom Yat has the ability to go home at any time, and that he hasn't. He just informed them that he wanted to escape, that his parents murdered a shipwrecked, friendly alien in front of him - that he doesn't want to be near them, and that unlike Robin, Yat isn't even doing combat. He's going to school, even.

And they don't care. He has clearly made his choice, and Paul has given them a light overview on why… but a few words from his mother, and they don't care.

Speaking as someone who still hasn't entirely escaped his abusive mother - despite being well into my twenties- I can honestly say I have never wanted to hurt these characters more. I would strongly appreciate it if they at least ended up punched in the face, ideally hard enough to break their upturned noses.

I apologize if that seems a bit bloodthirsty, but for context: my mother has done things like attack me in my sleep because her roomba woke her up (yes, really) when I was 14, or throw me out of the house at 16 (telling me I wasn't aloud to come back) only to immediately call the cops on me for 'running away,' leading to me getting a lecture from the police officers who dragged me to the place I wasn't even trying to leave on 'listening to my mother.' (I was in fact trying to figure out how to get anywhere I could get help getting my parents to give my driver's license/birth certificate/SS card/etcetera back. Or, you know, just shelter. It was cold.) I wasn't even being disobedient at the time; she was just throwing one of her literal tantrums.

As such, I hope you can understand my sheer loathing for madame Yat and anyone who looks at the title 'mother' as one which is innately more important than the way said mother treats her child, or the child's own wishes. People don't typically try to stay as far away as possible from their parents for a year because their parents made them eat vegetables - they do it because their parents hurt them, or enjoy making them feel powerless in order to revel in their own power and importance - and it's entirely possible for parents to do this while genuinely fighting schools and other bureaucracies to get them to treat their child well, because of their own perspective in regards to their reputation or duty or genuine belief that they're a good parent somehow, or because 'only they get to hurt their toys,' or any other various logics.

Guy's father was horrifyingly possible - but it's not the only type of abuse. Sometimes it's the mother, sometimes it's intermixed with genuine-seeming care, or perhaps even actual care - but it doesn't mean the 'child' shouldn't be listened to.

 

[Ngamer11]

I really want these people to just be completely reasonable.

Because it would be hilarious to see Orange Lantern enter one of "I can't be wrong" paranoia spirals because of this.

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The only way that'll happen is if Mr Zoat completely changes what Daxamites are like from both canon and how they were already portrayed in the story.

 

[Galler]

It has been a while, but I believe that Clark went to Daxam. IIRC, Paul mentioned the planet to him and said that he should stay away. Clark said that he would use the fortress to find the place. Then after some time Paul meets Clark again and he is injured. When asked what happened Clark says that he didn't realise just how much the Daxams didn't want to see him.

It could have been a renegade update.

 

[boo600]

No, that was Paragon. He also ignored Paul's warning regarding Karsta - whereas Renegade Superman met Karsta when she was finally in command of a Kryptonian resurgence, and got off with a telling-off.

 

[Mr Zoat]

To be fair to the League, this is the first they're hearing about it and they are giving him a chance to explain what happened before taking any action.

 

[BlackCoat13]

To be unfair to the League, they're listening to him so well you wonder why they bothered to talk to him anyways. Should have had Manhunter in the room with him, have Manhunter re-live the Daxom meeting from Paul's own perspective.