With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

[Mr Zoat]

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Thank you, corrected.

Wait, is this the real Starbreaker, or does this copy just think/act as if it is the real one?

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Grayven doesn't know for certain, but believes it to have been a fake.

For a sufficiently wide definition of killed. All Grayven did was talk to him. Artemis is one one who struck the actual blow.

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It was a team thing.

 

[Ciber]

Is the sword of the fallen causing all these fake constructs to reincarnate as humans?

 

[Mr Zoat]

Is the sword of the fallen causing all these fake constructs to reincarnate as humans?

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Grayven doesn't know, but assumes not.

 

[NightmareWarden]

If this is an angel, I wonder if its powers can destabilize the Sword of the Fallen. Angels apparently destroyed Paragon-OL's blade after his death.

If the Angel has been here for billions of years, then he might not recognize the Second of the Fallen and Third as demons, merely "creations of the Lord" based on their magical presences.

I wonder if this world is associated with a particular afterlife? Or if something like the New Cronus arc is happening, but it was aborted before it could flourish? Aimless energy remains, for the angel to stew in.

 

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If the Angel has been here for billions of years, then he might not recognize the Second of the Fallen and Third as demons, merely "creations of the Lord" based on their magical presences.

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Wouldn't an Angel notice the Second's and the Third's demonic nature though? They're still demons, just ones directly created by God.

 

[NightmareWarden]

Wouldn't an Angel notice the Second's and the Third's demonic nature though? They're still demons, just ones directly created by God.

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Depends how strongly the sword-energies are disrupting them. The normal rules for demons don't really apply to them right now.

I'm assuming demons have a scent which is recognized, rather than a mental flag of "demonic entity, flagged as anti-God's-Plan, Ex-TER-Min-ATE!" So the angel would need to have been informed that demons exist and are bad. If demons were first widely identified after it was exiled, then it'd be ignorant.

 

[Steelplaza]

If the Angel has been here for billions of years

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I sincerely doubt that long. Whatever is going on almost certainly arrived in the strike on the surface that left the impact crater, and that wasn't billions of years ago. What Hinon said:

And there's some evidence of an orbital strike, or… Significant planetary impact, in the recent past.

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Now that's "recent past" by Hinon's standards, of course, but even for her that probably means thousands or tens of thousands of years, not millions much less billions.

 

[Attention Counting]

Depends how strongly the sword-energies are disrupting them. The normal rules for demons don't really apply to them right now.

I'm assuming demons have a scent which is recognized, rather than a mental flag of "demonic entity, flagged as anti-God's-Plan, Ex-TER-Min-ATE!"

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Why would the "sword-energies" be separate from the demonic nature and origin of the sword? What special energy does the sword emanate that would distract from the sword's demonic energy? I don't remember anything like that.

I'm assuming demons have a scent which is recognized, rather than a mental flag of "demonic entity, flagged as anti-God's-Plan, Ex-TER-Min-ATE!" So the angel would need to have been informed that demons exist and are bad. If demons were first widely identified after it was exiled, then it'd be ignorant.

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As far as I remember it, Demons existed either before matter was created or shortly (comparatively) after so I find it unlikely that there any Angels don't know about Demons. Also, we have seen Angels in this story have an instinct in being able to identify all things demonic and "wrong" so even hypothetical ignorance can't shield them from seeing it being antithetical to themself.

Also, it's not impossible that Hinon managed to not notice an Angel who would presumably been there since the Big Bang (or a similar early time as they would have not known what Demons are in your hypothesis) but I do find it similarly unlikely.

 

[Darko]

This might not be an Angel, bit it could be a Source-powered entity.

There were those angel-looking aliens that left a powerful device that Actually Grayven wanted.