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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)
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Wait, Hawk and Dove? Weren't they part of the Lord of Order/Chaos cosmic balance? Their patrons offered keeping other LoO/C away from earth by their presence to keep Grayven satisfied.
Shouldn't John be making their empowerment impossible? Or has John Constantine gone for a Wander outside reality?
…wait, don't tell me Constantine granted them power?
Shouldn't John be making their empowerment impossible? Or has John Constantine gone for a Wander outside reality?
…wait, don't tell me Constantine granted them power?
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I do feel like fighting a sentient sun makes anything short of a space battleship worthless. Aztek needs the Gem of Cytorak and Macguffins on that level not power armour.
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OP has mentioned in the thread that Constantine found them and is their teacher, though he's doing a poor job of it.
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Ah, they moved his stuff out? Man, that feels kind of sad. I mean, he pretty much has moved out of the facility, but surely someone could have made use of the equipment. Then again, given the rotating membership, they probably needed the space.
Power armour support equipment probably does take up space, especially if it isn't built into the infrastructure already.
Ah, for Arsenal's gear, of course.
Subspacing them, of course. Good to know Zee got her Sororitas-pattern armour in hand, though.
I imagine he cribbed notes from OL's designs, and other power armour users known to the League.
As long as you can be sure the system knows where you are at any moment, because one armature moving in the wrong place and you've got a busted limb.
Yes, well, you've probably got all sorts of anime-inspired armour designs floating around in your head. Hardsuits, landmates and ACPAs, just for starters.
Probably assumed the 'jock' would get offended and defensive.
And that's a good reason not to modify it. It'd be a hassle if the designer went rogue and couldn't repair it.
I assume Hiro managed to work his way up from machine shop tech by making the machinery to make more advanced machines...
Plus, it'd be such a security risk.
I see Roy's been keeping up on the mission reports.
Fortunately. Although an arrow guy probably wouldn't have been essential anyway.
And good riddance to her. I hope the warren didn't get too badly hit by Anti-Life.
OL made man-portable units? No doubt Roy is making good use of them.
Besides, there's no need to assume all dragons are bad guys.
Like kids in a candy store.
And for goodness' sake, read the damn manual!
Something akin to being hit by a truck, I would imagine.
If anything, he'd hit harder, because all that force would end up directed into a smaller point of impact...
Ah, the innocent ribbing of brothers.
I don't see how they'd have improved on it any. It's a mature technology.
At least one of them can handle it fine. Hopefully he can help the others get used to it between classes.
Ugh, the equivalent of jamming the car in gear, hitting the accelerator and not letting up. At least neither he nor the stonework will take much damage.
See? This is why you read the manual before getting on the bike, kiddies.
Maybe he needs the belt in training wheels mode for a bit...
That would be impressive, given how idiot-proof the belts are. Sadly, there's always a better idiot.
Does your armour have innate flight? What if they can disable that? Backups are always useful.
Though check with people before you go yoinking something, especially if it's got a drawback.
Always helpful when the rookies get to improve their gear. Flight belts, proper armour, even handy weaponry for those without personal energy projection. Nothing like force multipliers when you can reasonably expect to end up fighting alien invasions, demonic lords or cosmic horrors someday. Best to prepare for it even if it never happens...
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An anti-scrying ward?
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Don't forget motoslaves.
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Thank you, corrected.
I'm pretty sure that I didn't.
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So you weren't referring to them in the below quote?
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That wasn't Hawk or Dove.
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Now I'm very curious as to who these students are.
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Aight. Soooo… I assume they're drawing power from a different source, with Constantine still walling off Earth/the Materium at large from both types of Lord? There was probably a lot of stuff available while the anti-life broke society down…
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This is usually "F1" or "Formula 1". Googling "F One" brings up something to do with high end kites, and only later a link to an F1 website.
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Thank you, corrected.
It's an idiosyncrasy of mine.
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I know Tim Hunter is supposed to be some kind of a magical big deal, but I'm pretty vague on what the Future Greatest Wizard in the Universe (tm) can actually do at his current age and skill level.
Would be pretty funny if OL gives him a gun.
TIM: Wait I can have a gun?
OL: We're in America now.
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Remove the bold, I think. This would have made sense if the previous sentence included 'damage anything' so I assume it was edited later.
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No, I think that's fine.
I'm going to try and be explicit about that.
The SI realises that that wouldn't be acceptable to his colleagues.
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Normally I'd go for the Dresden Files for a great example of why Wizards should absolutely have a gun. However in this case, since these are students, I figure they'll need a proper teacher.
Meet America Wizard
When not invading fantasy realms, he's a substitute defense teacher at some British wizard school.
With Such Spells as: 'Magus Dumpus' 'Trench Broom' and 'Summon E-4 Mafia'
Schooled (part 19)
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22nd September 2013
19:11 GMT -5
Nnamdi adjusts his armour once more. He's not used to wearing clothes, much less steel/ceramic plates. Then he knuckle-walks across the testing area. Then he turns and walks back, ungainly balanced on his legs. Then he turns again and 'runs' back, a movement that's clearly a fight against falling over. Lastly, he tests the range of motion his arms have.
He doesn't look satisfied, but he looks less annoyed that he did when we started.
**It is acceptable. You are sure that the shield made by the belt is not sufficient?**
"It doesn't stop lasers or electrical discharges, and heat from plasma weapons leaks through."
What he's got doesn't provide great coverage, because I'm not actually an armourer. I've just got a big enough database to fake it. And the truth is that species shaped like gorillas don't usually create complex tool-using civilisations. Some species have stages like that, but evolving improved tool-using tends to cause them to gradually turn into standard pattern humanoids like humans. So there just aren't that many armour designs that I can crib from.
**Then I will accept it.**
I nod. "Do you want to practise with the belt's flight function?"
He shifts awkwardly. **I do not think that gorillas are meant to fly.*
"No, but neither are humans. I understand if you're not eager, but it's something that could save your life. Even if you generally avoid using it, it would be a good idea to understand how to use it."
He thinks that over for a moment.
**You are correct. What do you suggest?**
"Well, when my team learned to use them, we set up hoops in the main training room and made a game of flying the circuit as quickly as we could. Rocket was far better than the rest of us, obviously, but it only took a few hours to get the hang of it."
**Then I suppose that I should make the effort.**
We head out of the armoury and start down the corridor towards the training area.
"How are you finding living around humans?"
**Difficult. I know that they do not mean to be hostile when they show their teeth or stare at me, but it is… Uncomfortable. I usually use telepathy to force myself to see that they have no aggressive thoughts.**
"Is that instinctual, or learned?"
**All human cultures have the smile. All gorillas show hostility by bearing teeth. All primates except humans do. But I hope that I can learn not to respond this way. It is… Tiring.**
"How do the humans feel about you?"
**They do not see me. I maintain a telepathic illusion of being a human.**
I frown. "How does that work with security cameras?"
**It doesn't. I have been confronted by some very confused guards.**
"Uh. Well, generally I think secret identities are a bad idea, but I'm in the minority. But it might become an issue if you're knocked out or distracted badly enough that you lose focus."
**Perhaps. But so far Sam and I have covered for each other. We carry each other's contact details everywhere so that in event of a medical problem the other will be contacted by the authorities.**
"Nnamdi, if a man gets hit by a car and suddenly turns into a gorilla, they're going to call animal control whatever he's got in his wallet."
**But there are humans who turn into other types of animal.**
"Yes, but they're really rare. Most people will look at a gorilla and assume that the man they thought they hit wasn't hit, and that the gorilla is unrelated to him."
**I could wear a sign around my neck.**
"How annoying would that be?"
He itches his muzzle. **A t-shirt?**
"That sounds better. And who is Sam?"
**Sam Simeon.** I wince inwardly. **He was a member of our troupe who tried to escape from Gorilla City before your team arrived. He was wounded in the escape, and a human holiday maker found him and nursed him back to health. Unfortunately, by the time he had fully recovered, Gorilla City had been abandoned and he did not know where the rest of us were. Many things happened, but eventually William Glenmorgan was able to put us in touch with each other.**
"And he didn't want to go home?"
**Where we live now was never his home. His only surviving family was Grodd, and he had also left. And he had discovered a talent for art. That is not something he could do with our troupe.**
"Well, as long as he's happy. I-."
I step into the training room, and Risk is… Posing? In mid-air. He notices us a moment later and… Stops flexing.
"I thought you'd gone home?"
"Ah, no? Why the fuck would I do that?"
"School work? Rest?"
"Guidance councillor always said I needed to learn to apply myself." He floats down… Ah, he's gotten pretty good with that. "So I'm applying myself."
I nod approvingly. "I know the feeling. It's nice to have something you actually want to be good at for its own sake, not because you're expected to."
He frowns, tilting his head to the right. "Huh. Never figured-. Uh, yeah. And seriously, thanks for the flying belt. Not being able to get around fast was holding me back as a superhero, and my first day here that's just fixed."
"You're welcome. That sort of thing is why we're doing this."
"So... What do I gotta do to get some of that sweet power armor?"
"Ah. Sorry, but at your level of strength and toughness, there isn't… Really any power armour I can build that would improve either. The Amazons might be able to build plate armour for you-."
"Nah. Regular armour's lame-ass."
"Not as lame-ass as getting shot, but… Your decision. I-."
My ring blinks.
"Sorry, I have to take this." I raise the ring to my face and step away. "Go."
"So, what you gunna call yourself?"
Ghia'ta's face appears over my ring. "Paul, we need you in India. Some of the unreformed Kobra cultists have stolen a mutagen and I can't find them."
**Nnamdi.**
"No, I mean your superhero name. What's it gunna be?"
"Sure, I'll be there in a minute."
**[Disinterested shrug]**
"Look, if you're fighting with me, you gotta have a cool name. Everyone else has got one… Even 'Hunter' kinda works."
I close the channel and turn to the new students. "Risk, if you don't need to rush home, would you mind helping Nnamdi learn how to use the belt?"
"Sure, no problem."
"Thank you. Right, I'll leave you to it. Back in a few minutes."
19:11 GMT -5
Nnamdi adjusts his armour once more. He's not used to wearing clothes, much less steel/ceramic plates. Then he knuckle-walks across the testing area. Then he turns and walks back, ungainly balanced on his legs. Then he turns again and 'runs' back, a movement that's clearly a fight against falling over. Lastly, he tests the range of motion his arms have.
He doesn't look satisfied, but he looks less annoyed that he did when we started.
**It is acceptable. You are sure that the shield made by the belt is not sufficient?**
"It doesn't stop lasers or electrical discharges, and heat from plasma weapons leaks through."
What he's got doesn't provide great coverage, because I'm not actually an armourer. I've just got a big enough database to fake it. And the truth is that species shaped like gorillas don't usually create complex tool-using civilisations. Some species have stages like that, but evolving improved tool-using tends to cause them to gradually turn into standard pattern humanoids like humans. So there just aren't that many armour designs that I can crib from.
**Then I will accept it.**
I nod. "Do you want to practise with the belt's flight function?"
He shifts awkwardly. **I do not think that gorillas are meant to fly.*
"No, but neither are humans. I understand if you're not eager, but it's something that could save your life. Even if you generally avoid using it, it would be a good idea to understand how to use it."
He thinks that over for a moment.
**You are correct. What do you suggest?**
"Well, when my team learned to use them, we set up hoops in the main training room and made a game of flying the circuit as quickly as we could. Rocket was far better than the rest of us, obviously, but it only took a few hours to get the hang of it."
**Then I suppose that I should make the effort.**
We head out of the armoury and start down the corridor towards the training area.
"How are you finding living around humans?"
**Difficult. I know that they do not mean to be hostile when they show their teeth or stare at me, but it is… Uncomfortable. I usually use telepathy to force myself to see that they have no aggressive thoughts.**
"Is that instinctual, or learned?"
**All human cultures have the smile. All gorillas show hostility by bearing teeth. All primates except humans do. But I hope that I can learn not to respond this way. It is… Tiring.**
"How do the humans feel about you?"
**They do not see me. I maintain a telepathic illusion of being a human.**
I frown. "How does that work with security cameras?"
**It doesn't. I have been confronted by some very confused guards.**
"Uh. Well, generally I think secret identities are a bad idea, but I'm in the minority. But it might become an issue if you're knocked out or distracted badly enough that you lose focus."
**Perhaps. But so far Sam and I have covered for each other. We carry each other's contact details everywhere so that in event of a medical problem the other will be contacted by the authorities.**
"Nnamdi, if a man gets hit by a car and suddenly turns into a gorilla, they're going to call animal control whatever he's got in his wallet."
**But there are humans who turn into other types of animal.**
"Yes, but they're really rare. Most people will look at a gorilla and assume that the man they thought they hit wasn't hit, and that the gorilla is unrelated to him."
**I could wear a sign around my neck.**
"How annoying would that be?"
He itches his muzzle. **A t-shirt?**
"That sounds better. And who is Sam?"
**Sam Simeon.** I wince inwardly. **He was a member of our troupe who tried to escape from Gorilla City before your team arrived. He was wounded in the escape, and a human holiday maker found him and nursed him back to health. Unfortunately, by the time he had fully recovered, Gorilla City had been abandoned and he did not know where the rest of us were. Many things happened, but eventually William Glenmorgan was able to put us in touch with each other.**
"And he didn't want to go home?"
**Where we live now was never his home. His only surviving family was Grodd, and he had also left. And he had discovered a talent for art. That is not something he could do with our troupe.**
"Well, as long as he's happy. I-."
I step into the training room, and Risk is… Posing? In mid-air. He notices us a moment later and… Stops flexing.
"I thought you'd gone home?"
"Ah, no? Why the fuck would I do that?"
"School work? Rest?"
"Guidance councillor always said I needed to learn to apply myself." He floats down… Ah, he's gotten pretty good with that. "So I'm applying myself."
I nod approvingly. "I know the feeling. It's nice to have something you actually want to be good at for its own sake, not because you're expected to."
He frowns, tilting his head to the right. "Huh. Never figured-. Uh, yeah. And seriously, thanks for the flying belt. Not being able to get around fast was holding me back as a superhero, and my first day here that's just fixed."
"You're welcome. That sort of thing is why we're doing this."
"So... What do I gotta do to get some of that sweet power armor?"
"Ah. Sorry, but at your level of strength and toughness, there isn't… Really any power armour I can build that would improve either. The Amazons might be able to build plate armour for you-."
"Nah. Regular armour's lame-ass."
"Not as lame-ass as getting shot, but… Your decision. I-."
My ring blinks.
"Sorry, I have to take this." I raise the ring to my face and step away. "Go."
"So, what you gunna call yourself?"
Ghia'ta's face appears over my ring. "Paul, we need you in India. Some of the unreformed Kobra cultists have stolen a mutagen and I can't find them."
**Nnamdi.**
"No, I mean your superhero name. What's it gunna be?"
"Sure, I'll be there in a minute."
**[Disinterested shrug]**
"Look, if you're fighting with me, you gotta have a cool name. Everyone else has got one… Even 'Hunter' kinda works."
I close the channel and turn to the new students. "Risk, if you don't need to rush home, would you mind helping Nnamdi learn how to use the belt?"
"Sure, no problem."
"Thank you. Right, I'll leave you to it. Back in a few minutes."
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"control no matter what he's"
Hey, lots of last names describe a persons ancestry.
Granted, they usually describe whatever occupation their ancestor had.
Might want to look into that.
Ahh, time to deal with sone mutant snake men. A classic superhero story.
Heck, I was recently reading a Guarding the Globe comic where the Lizard League mutated a bunch of people.
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That means the same thing.
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That should say 'plate'.
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It's actually more complex than that. Gorillas for example will show their teeth for a number of different reasons.
Common interpretations are:
- Submission or appeasement: Lower-ranking gorillas may pull their lips back and show teeth to a dominant silverback to signal "I give up" or "I'm not a threat". This is often paired with leaning away, lowering the body, or avoiding eye contact.
- Fear or anxiety: In unfamiliar situations, encounters with humans, or when feeling threatened, a gorilla may display a "fear grin" — bared teeth with a relaxed or wide-open mouth — to express unease.
- Playfulness: In rough play, gorillas may show teeth in a loose, open-mouth "play face" where the jaw is relaxed and the display is brief.
- Aggression or threat: If the gorilla is standing tall, staring directly, and showing both gums and teeth, it's likely a threat display. This can be accompanied by chest-beating, loud vocalizations, or even charging. In gorilla society, this is used to defend territory, family, or assert dominance.
You gotta pay attention to things like posture, eye contact, duration and body movement along with the teeth.
As for why humans smile, current theory is that smiling likely evolved from primate expressions of submission and harmlessness, transforming over millions of years into a tool for social cohesion and communication. Even infants develop social smiles by 6–8 weeks, which strengthen caregiver bonds and trigger dopamine release in parents, reinforcing emotional connections.
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Huh. It's a strange thing to see a gorilla in armour. A lot of their anatomy doesn't lend itself to the sort of armour humans wear. The position of their shoulders in a standing or walking stance, for instance...
And unless Nnamdi is preternaturally durable, he'll need that protection.
And most would still have issues of coverage due to the postural differences I mentioned. The chestplate would need enough clearance for the shoulders to move forwards, meaning it won't cover much of the pectorals in any other position.
Good, at least he isn't rejecting it out of hand (or foot) just because it's not perfectly suited to him...
Besides, once you get aloft, you may change your tune. Or discover you're naturally acrophobic.
See? If you never leave your comfort zone, you'll never learn or experience anything new.
Doubt most of you ever reached her best scores, though. Lady has a knack for it.
Ah, that's an interesting concern. He is going to have to work around humans, unless he plans to limit himself to being the guardian of Gorilla City alone.
Ah, body language differences. That would be a concern.
I suspect habituation will eventually cause you to adapt. Enduring it is just part of growing.
Heh. Maybe using a holoprojector might be more efficient? It'd have to compensate for his posture, but in general...
Heh. A series relying on the old 'Gorilla pop' phenomenon. When having a monkey or ape on the cover of a comic would get people to buy it just to see what the heck it was about.
And most of them turn back into humans when unconscious. Even in this world, someone knocked out cold turning into a gorilla isn't normal.
...Maybe a medical alert necklace or bracelet or something? That way people examining you can see 'Yes, I am a gorilla, this is normal for me, do not worry.' and at least not panic.
Just the 'gorilla wearing human clothes' would give people pause, yes. And if you start to become famous enough to be recognised, people might not panic anyway.
I would hope his non-English name is something like 'Samsimyon' or the like, or else he's really trolling people.
Huh, related to Grodd? Surprising. Though clearly nothing like him in temperament.
I'd be looking for a mobile phone on a selfie timer. Risk seems the sort to self-promote like that.
I mean, he is in an honest-to-god superhero base. That alone is pretty cool.
Quite an improvement over earlier. Looks like he's a quick learner.
Given he seems to have a powerset on par with a Danner Enhancile (if not necessarily as powerful,) I can see the logic. As long as he doesn't decide he should start wearing a cape.
...Really? I mean, power armour is cool, but...
Well, maybe stuff that looks like power armour but is just cosmetic? I'm sure OL could wire in a sound system to sound like creaking myomers or hydraulics for the auditory aesthetic.
Plus, Risk isn't super-durable. Making armour that could tank something capable of hurting him would be tricky, but something to take the edge of impacts so his power can handle it, that might work.
Ah, man. They're still playing silly buggers. I bet by the time they're found, they'll have turned themselves into snake-men...
That honestly is a good question. 'Na-Namdy' isn't exactly a name that strikes fear into the hearts of villainy. And you know most Americans will pronounce it like that.
I suspect he won't care much, as long as you don't call him a monkey.
I only hope this doesn't end poorly. Nnamdi seems the sort to not rise to any challenges Risk might offer in the name of Bro-hood.
This program promises to produce some great moments of character interactions. Stuff like a cocky super-teen teaching a gorilla prince how to fly? That's got to be worth a few laughs from the culture clash for sure. And on actual hero business, it looks like former Kobra goons getting up to some new tricks... Hopefully OL can succeed where Ghiata was struggling.
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Except Dr Mist is the one doing that.
The last time they confronted him, they figured out his weakness and how he operates, so they have that.
Mist is also the League's top magical expert, so sending him to find Smiley makes a whole lot more sense than anything else.
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Last time they tried to confront Boss Smiley they got yeeted so hard they ran away from confronting Boss Smiley.
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Thank you, corrected.