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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Mr Zoat, I linked a bunch of posts that need to be edited to make Major Atom into Captain Atom. Here is my quote to the list of links, as I don't want to copy everything again.

Here are all the posts I can find here that use Major Atom instead of Captain Atom. Sorry if there are any duplicates, I just searched it and then copied by finding the parts that have that name.
 
The moment Tattletale's shard wakes up from figuring out the Lord Protector's name, it'll be broadcasting what it's learned of the nature of the Yellow Light to the rest of the Warrior Network, and the Warrior Hub (Scion) is likely to respond to that with interest.
Tattletale wakes with the worst thinker headache ever, and rolls over to try to find the remote and turn down the TV.
[ALERT]
[QUERY]
[YELLOW]
[QUERY]
[IDENTI[/ALERT]
[ALERT]
News stations all rapidly interrupt their programming to show a golden body dropping from the sky.
[QUERY]
[IDENTI

Every few seconds the body twitches. But it doesn't rise again.
[QUERY]
[IDENTI

Learning the name knocked me out. Name is cosmically censored. Arc suggests dropping began the moment I woke up. Me waking up is responsible. My consciousness becoming available again is responsible. Scion can know what I know? Scion can know what any parahuman knows?
[QUERY]
[IDENTI

Scion is incapable of forgetting. He keeps getting knocked out by it.
Tattletale squints at the screen and groans, "Guuuys? I think I killed Scion..."
"The hell?"
"Let's just say I'm glad I forgot what that guy's name was. Squishy fallible human brain: one, eidetic golden omniscient brain: zero."[/alert]
 
The connection between the avatar and the main warrior entity means there's a ongoing connection between them and since Paul isn't a Parahuman with parahuman limits what's stopping him from using his ring to scan the avatar find out there's a link to somewhere in another universe and going there?
I assume that the Zion avatar has all sorts of exotic shielding. Sure, it can't just tell the ring not to scan it, but that's not its only defence.
I'm curious to see how more powerful precogs will react to Paul would PTV outright fail because of how new he is and how esoteric his power source is?
As I understand it, Worm does not have true precognatives. Rather, their shards model the future and give them the results. Since the shards don't know how to model a power ring and since Lord Protector also has defences against interdimensional scanning, they generally won't be able to cope. They'll either ignore him, best guess based on available date or throw a fit.
Mr Zoat, I linked a bunch of posts that need to be edited to make Major Atom into Captain Atom. Here is my quote to the list of links, as I don't want to copy everything again.
Yes, I saw, but I'm at work at the moment. I'll take a look this evening.
 
As I understand it, Worm does not have true precognatives. Rather, their shards model the future and give them the results. Since the shards don't know how to model a power ring and since Lord Protector also has defences against interdimensional scanning, they generally won't be able to cope. They'll either ignore him, best guess based on available date or throw a fit.
Apparently, there's a mix of both time travel to directly look at the future and simulations, depending on the parahuman in question.
 
Apparently, there's a mix of both time travel to directly look at the future and simulations, depending on the parahuman in question.
Part of the problem is that the author, Wildbow, has made a number of pronouncements, in various places, and they don't seem to be consistent with either each other or the text of the story. In consequence, canon tends to be assumed to be the text of the story (which sometimes seems to contradict itself; more than Taylor Hebert being an 'unreliable narrator').

Yes, I've read (most of) Worm, but not the newer (Ward) stuff. In theory, the Entities and their shards which give cape's powers do not have time travel, it's all simulation. Ridiculously expensive in terms of power usage simulation, if you want the really good stuff. The only 'time travel' in the story appears to be dimensional trickery, by shards, though 'time travel' may be how individual capes describe their powers.

Please realise, I may be completely wrong about the above. :)
(But, it's my best understanding, after having invested hundreds of hours in Worm and Worm-related stuff. Yes, I'm mad. :) )

EDIT

You think the above is bad? The Entities appear (probably) to have FTL. And, Faster-Than-Light travel is, arguably, time-travel; does horrible things to causality. It gets horribly, horribly, messy, trying to figure-out what's up in Worm... Particularly when the author throws around ridiculously silly numbers, like 10^80 Earths (or, at least, parallel dimensions)...

Basically, think 'a wizard did it', and try and enjoy the story. :)


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A lizard did it. :)
 
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As I understand it, Worm does not have true precognatives. Rather, their shards model the future and give them the results.

There's a lot of fanon bullshit in the Worm fandom. This is one of the bigger pieces of it. (Also, that telepathy and souls don't exist in the Wormverse.)

Most precogs in Worm are just running simulations, because that's cheaper. Worm also has straight-up no-kidding time-travel and time-manipulation powers, but they're energy-inefficient, so most of the time the shards are just faking it, but that's not the same thing as saying they have to.

(The worst piece of fanon bullshit is from people who've read a lot of fanfic but not Worm itself, who look at abilities in Worm as though they're X-men powers, where everyone who does X is doing X in the same way, and they all have a logical basis that you can extrapolate from and game.

Abilities in Worm come from a piece of an alien supercomputer being connected to you, and that shard of a supercomputer personally manages your power. So, it's less "You can do X" and "A particular piece of a supercomputer is using a tiny fraction of its abilities to let you do X, so long as you're within the letter and intent of whatever rules it has". The entire point of this is for the alien supercomputer to gather data, so out of 100 parahumans who can do X, there might be 100 slightly-different ways they're doing X.)
 
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They'll either ignore him, best guess based on available date or throw a fit.
Best guess based on modeling the available data is how Contessa gets around Path to Victory blindspots, so that seems likely.

I could see Coil's timeline simulation throwing major errors, but since Coil is likely to be killed as soon as Paul becomes aware of him... It's not a major concern.
 
... That's not how tattletales power works. There doesn't seem to be any actual telepathy in worm.
She has enhanced deductive reasoning, not mind-reading.
You're on to a loser, here... We don't know what's going on behind the scenes, at the shard level. Is there a shard that does telepathy, that her shard can tap for info, if pushed? (Not normally used as it used hideous amounts of power?) We really don't know.
 
Tattletale tried to figure out wtf Paul is and the shard probably went "wtf is this shit" and as a result Lisa collapsed.

You are on to a loser, here... We don't know what's going on behind the scenes, at the shard level. Is there a shard that does telepathy, that her shard can tap for info, if pushed? We really don't know.

WOG states that theres no true telepathy in Worm, not like you'd see in other comic book settings in DC and Marvel. Any pseduo telepathy is more of a combination of shard based precognition and physically messing with the brain.

Not saying the Shards couldn't eventually learn to do it but as of now no true telepathy exists. Plus Paul has interdimensional shielding and since all Parahuman powers are interdimensional most thinker powers will probably not work very well or at all on Paul.
 
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Tattletale tried to figure out wtf Paul is and the shard probably went "wtf is this shit" and as a result Lisa collapsed.



WOG states that theres no true telepathy in Worm, not like you'd see in other comic book settings in DC and Marvel. Any pseduo telepathy is more of a combination of shard based precognition and physically messing with the brain.

Not saying the Shards couldn't eventually learn to do it but as of now no true telepathy exists. Plus Paul has interdimensional shielding and since all Parahuman powers are interdimensional most thinker powers will probably not work very well or at all on Paul.

Tattletales powers can best be described as Sherlock on steroids.
 
You're on to a loser, here... We don't know what's going on behind the scenes, at the shard level. Is there a shard that does telepathy, that her shard can tap for info, if pushed? (Not normally used as it used hideous amounts of power?) We really don't know.
How her power works is actually explained quite clearly. She gathers information and plugs that data into her shard-entity-brain and it analyses it and pulls likely conclusions.

The more data she gives it/the more accurate the data, the closer the conclusions will be to truth.
It can't pull information from nowhere or 'tap into' other shards. Lisa is the one absorbing info for it, through her own senses.

It's sherlock Holmes super-deduction as preformed by an organic supercomputer plugged into her brain.

People just ignore that and chalk it up to mind-reading though, presumably because that's less effort to write about.
 
Tattletale wakes with the worst thinker headache ever, and rolls over to try to find the remote and turn down the TV.
[ALERT]
[QUERY]
[YELLOW]
[QUERY]
[IDENTI[/ALERT]
[ALERT]
News stations all rapidly interrupt their programming to show a golden body dropping from the sky.
[QUERY]
[IDENTI

Every few seconds the body twitches. But it doesn't rise again.
[QUERY]
[IDENTI

Learning the name knocked me out. Name is cosmically censored. Arc suggests dropping began the moment I woke up. Me waking up is responsible. My consciousness becoming available again is responsible. Scion can know what I know? Scion can know what any parahuman knows?
[QUERY]
[IDENTI

Scion is incapable of forgetting. He keeps getting knocked out by it.
Tattletale squints at the screen and groans, "Guuuys? I think I killed Scion..."
"The hell?"
"Let's just say I'm glad I forgot what that guy's name was. Squishy fallible human brain: one, eidetic golden omniscient brain: zero."[/alert]
[ALERT]
As funny as that is, I'll point out that Scion is a composite organism composed of independently-sapient components, and the sections getting repeatedly knocked out would probably have the offending data purged from them by the sections that haven't learnt it yet. The Entities have been around for a while; they've probably been exposed to attacks like that before, and figured out how to adapt to them.[/alert]
 
How her power works is actually explained quite clearly. She gathers information and plugs that data into her shard-entity-brain and it analyses it and pulls likely conclusions.

The more data she gives it/the more accurate the data, the closer the conclusions will be to truth.
It can't pull information from nowhere or 'tap into' other shards. Lisa is the one absorbing info for it, through her own senses.

It's sherlock Holmes super-deduction as preformed by an organic supercomputer plugged into her brain.

People just ignore that and chalk it up to mind-reading though, presumably because that's less effort to write about.
I'd be inclined to agree with you. TT/Lisa is a character who appears a lot, and her powers seem reasonably consistent. But, we still don't know, for sure, what's going on at the shard end. Evidence suggests The Warrior has basically given up, because of the death of The Thinker. So, the (possibly existing) shard-net is just drifting along.

If things were going better for the Entities, maybe they could shove info to Lisa's shard, that they wanted it (thus her) to 'know'? Instruct the 'new capability' acquisition shards to attack our YL SI? We just don't know.

Odds are that Taylor having Queen Administrator was one reason for her success, as (Warrior) shards would be inclined to listen to her, even before she was 'hacked' to be able to control parahumans (probably via their shards)...

Anything more? Please see my previous post.
 
Aside from Shade and Grundy I don't think any of them would present all that much of a threat to them.

Shade's a high-tier threat to any of the JSA. (Except Flash of course. There is NO high tier threat to someone who can move at near light speed and think on attosecond timescales if he's being handled with even a modicum of realism. Which, of course, he never is because comics. Which is fine because he'd be the most boring superhero ever, so OP that he'd OPM look like wimp, otherwise. </tangent>) If I remember correctly he once gave the JSA a run for their money all by himself.

Regarding the Stargirl TV show....I've not seen it (and, honestly, considering that I spend a grand total of maybe 20 hours a year - most of that being a single show that puts out around 15 episodes every season - watching TV, probably won't), but it's really sounding like one of those shows that put something above telling a good story on the list of priorities. That seems to be happening a lot lately. It always results in really crappy shows and movies. Hell, it even happened to the latest season of the above mentioned TV show that's the only thing on TV I make any effort at all to keep up with, though I'm hopeful they learned their lesson from the backlash and brought on some decent writers in time for the new season.


....And now I have a sudden urge to finish reading Worm.

It is Lord Protector, at a later point in his timeline.

Didn't he have a wife and step-kids to take care of back on Thundara? Or is this...enough later in his timeline and that's no longer a concern? Considering the potential lifespan of an enlightened lantern he could easily outlive them.

How her power works is actually explained quite clearly. She gathers information and plugs that data into her shard-entity-brain and it analyses it and pulls likely conclusions.

The more data she gives it/the more accurate the data, the closer the conclusions will be to truth.
It can't pull information from nowhere or 'tap into' other shards. Lisa is the one absorbing info for it, through her own senses.

It's sherlock Holmes super-deduction as preformed by an organic supercomputer plugged into her brain.

People just ignore that and chalk it up to mind-reading though, presumably because that's less effort to write about.

If that's how it's supposed to work then there's some really shitty writing going on there even in the main story (which, full disclosure, I've not finished yet. I was somewhere between 1/3 and 1/2 through it last time I read it and haven't gotten back to finish it yet). Some of the conclusions she gets to she does so with zero context clues. That's not super-deduction. It's straight up divination.

Which, granted, still isn't mind-reading. Which is also obvious by the fact that she's occasionally able to tell people things about themselves that they didn't know.
 
How her power works is actually explained quite clearly. She gathers information and plugs that data into her shard-entity-brain and it analyses it and pulls likely conclusions.

The more data she gives it/the more accurate the data, the closer the conclusions will be to truth.
It can't pull information from nowhere or 'tap into' other shards. Lisa is the one absorbing info for it, through her own senses.
It definitely does tap into other shards.

When Victoria and the other members of Breakthrough visit Tattletale's shard in the shard-space, it displays images taken from the memories of Victoria's family members, taken from recordings that their shards had stored, and that Tattletale would have had no way of knowing about.
 
Keep in mind that even with all the data she has, she does fuck up at times and get things wrong, so it's isn't fullproof.

I haven't read Ward and I have no intention of doing so but I heard that it ignores and retcons stuff from Worm, not sure how true that is but it's something I've heard.
 
If that's how it's supposed to work then there's some really shitty writing going on there even in the main story (which, full disclosure, I've not finished yet. I was somewhere between 1/3 and 1/2 through it last time I read it and haven't gotten back to finish it yet). Some of the conclusions she gets to she does so with zero context clues. That's not super-deduction. It's straight up divination.

It's actually fairly careful about never showing all of the infomation she has access to.
She's noted to be spending her own free time digging up as much as she can about everyone online so she always has more data to feed into the Space Brain, just to cloud the issue so she can get away with more.

In her POV segments though (the interlude where we see her first meeting with Coil, when she's kidnapped by his goons) she makes some egregious leaps of logic (guessing someone's bank pin from a bunch of bullshit about him) but we never see if she was right about the bank pin, because before she gets to try it, everything she deduced about that guy is proven wrong and him and his teammates promptly kidnap her.

She is, see, seen to come to false conclusions when her infomation is flawed, or she simply doesn't have enough to plug into the shard-brain and it has to start making wild guesses.

Some of her deductions are... sketchy, because WB isn't doing proper sanity-checking on what info she's plugging in to reach which conclusions.
To be fair, that's always the problem with a non-genius trying to write the POV of a supergenius.
But that's a writing issue. An out-of-story limitation of the author.

In-story it's clear that her shard never pulls information from other people's brains or other shards or from the ineffible mind of the universe, or whatever other bullshit people come up with. Because those would be entirely separate superpowers that Tattletale does not have.

Tattletale's gimmick is making educated guesses based on things that she knows. It only goes by the things that she knows, or thinks that she knows.
Tattletale doesn't have any senses that should be able to deduce anything of really important from Lord Protector Paul.
She can't read his mind so she can't stumble onto his name, she doesn't know what a power ring is, she can't perceive magic, she can't perceive dimensional travel.

As far as she can tell, he's "floating glowing man with large energy weapon"
Which makes it interesting that she collapsed upon seeing him.

If things were going better for the Entities, maybe they could shove info to Lisa's shard, that they wanted it (thus her) to 'know'? Instruct the 'new capability' acquisition shards to attack our YL SI? We just don't know.
We don't know if entities can seize control of shards that are disconnected from themselves.
Thinker might have been able to do that, because recombining all the shards back into their full Entity Form was her job.

Warrior Entity is a dumb thug. He can't even put himself back together, I doubt he can hijack thinker-shards that aren't connected to him.

It definitely does tap into other shards.

When Victoria and the other members of Breakthrough visit Tattletale's shard in the shard-space, it displays images taken from the memories of Victoria's family members, taken from recordings that their shards had stored, and that Tattletale would have had no way of knowing about.
Uuugh.

The more wildbow writes, the less consistent his work becomes. I'm ignoring Ward, and the concept of shardspace.
Tattletale, As-She-Is-In-Worm, does not seem to have any mental connections to other people.
 
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Shade's a high-tier threat to any of the JSA. (Except Flash of course. There is NO high tier threat to someone who can move at near light speed and think on attosecond timescales if he's being handled with even a modicum of realism. Which, of course, he never is because comics. Which is fine because he'd be the most boring superhero ever, so OP that he'd OPM look like wimp, otherwise. </tangent>) If I remember correctly he once gave the JSA a run for their money all by himself.

I think that Fate would be a better match up for the Shade.

Fate is a powerful sorcerer and while the Shade has been portrayed as being very powerful, Fate has beaten extremely powerful beings before.

The Shade can have Flash's shadow just kill him, while Fate most likely has protections against that sort of thing.

Didn't he have a wife and step-kids to take care of back on Thundara? Or is this...enough later in his timeline and that's no longer a concern? Considering the potential lifespan of an enlightened lantern he could easily outlive them.

While it is possible that he outlived them, it is also possible that he gave them some way to increase their lifespan.

His step-kids are probably grown adults now so they don't him to take care of them.

Thundera is also most likely secure now, so he doesn't need to oversee it so much that he can travel to other universes.

The reason he's doing this could be because he wants to build civilization in other universes where it seems like civilization is on its last legs, or just to gather knowledge and resources.
 
If Paul has worked out how to universe-hop, then yeah he can.
Nope, Scion locks off his personal dimension to all forms of dimensional travel.


Throwing the endbringers into space is a glib answer, but it's a bad one, unless you're going light-years out. They all have some ability to turn themselves into rockets (except maybe... Bohu? I always get Tohu and Bohu confused), and dropping them into the sun not only doesn't kill them, but is definitely an Earth-destroying mistake, per WoG.
The moment Paul tries to throw an Endbringer into space is the moment it stops messing around and pops his head like a zit.


People are forgetting how OP power rings are and the potential uses. Any attempt of messing with Paul by messing with his internals will fail due to the ring stopping it.
Most Shard abilities of that vein would bypass any ring generated barrier due to messing with space.


Most precogs in Worm are just running simulations, because that's cheaper. Worm also has straight-up no-kidding time-travel and time-manipulation powers, but they're energy-inefficient, so most of the time the shards are just faking it, but that's not the same thing as saying they have to.
They have time looping abilities, not time travel.


You're on to a loser, here... We don't know what's going on behind the scenes, at the shard level. Is there a shard that does telepathy, that her shard can tap for info, if pushed? (Not normally used as it used hideous amounts of power?) We really don't know.
Technically there is a telepathy Shard, the Entities just only rarely use it because it's a massive waste of power and has to be separately calibrated for each being it's used on.
 
Nope, Scion locks off his personal dimension to all forms of dimensional travel.
No, the Warrior Entity only locked off the forms of dimension travel it knew about. Possibly by putting limitations into the shards being distributed, but that much is speculation on my part. External dimensional threats, especially those based on means that the Entities hadn't previously encountered, are still viable. Such is the nature of an Outside Context Problem.
The moment Paul tries to throw an Endbringer into space is the moment it stops messing around and pops his head like a zit.
Behemoth died in canon, and he didn't pull out all the stops in his final moments. The retaliation came in the form of new Endbringers that emulated the means of his execution: temporal powers for Khonsu, and coordinated parahuman abilities for Tohu.
Most Shard abilities of that vein would bypass any ring generated barrier due to messing with space.
The author has already stated that Lord Protector has defenses against interdimensional shenanigans exactly like what you're referring to here.
They have time looping abilities, not time travel.
CITATION!
Interlude 28 said:
The younger siblings are harder to target, but their birthplace is studded with temporal anomalies. Holes in time, wells, echoes, slowed time and accelerated time, from confrontations that have occurred, even confrontations she participated in. She manipulates the wind as she affected the water. A stirring that prompts another stirring, and the temporal effects that can be affected are struck in a particular pattern, strained in a particular order, from the fastest to the slowest. Again, she repeats the process emphasizing the anomalies with individuals trapped within. As communications go, it is crude, but she knows her siblings like she knows any other target. Slow, calm, the subjects.
Holes in time, wells, echoes, slowed and accelerated time. Eidolon's second in command in Houston prior to Echidna, Dispatch, had the primary power to create a bubble of accelerated time around himself.
Technically there is a telepathy Shard, the Entities just only rarely use it because it's a massive waste of power and has to be separately calibrated for each being it's used on.
FURTHER CITATION!
Wildbow on SB said:
Yeah. In truth, it's more that shards don't have the exact right templates to draw on in past experience to regularly model a human brain and decrypt the mess of firing neurons. Those shards that can do such decryptions are combined with or supporting other shards that need to model humans (such as shards that simulate or certain thinker shards that aren't mind-reading.

Which isn't to say Telepaths don't exist - they're just not very rare and not highly valued by the shards, who are content to gather information on human brains from the latent black box storage of the tens of thousands of people with powers out there, and explore that in future cycles.
The reason that they don't use telepathy is that the only data Entities would get from it is data that they passively gather without it. It's a waste of resources due to redundancy, not difficulty.
 
Nope, Scion locks off his personal dimension to all forms of dimensional travel.

Lord Protector probably has all sorts of defences and ways to get around someone trying to manipulate dimensions.

He already has a way to travel dimensions, so it is extremely likely that he also has defences against dimensional manipulation.

He also has a vast database of advanced alien tech, so he most likely has all sorts of goodies in there to help him.

The moment Paul tries to throw an Endbringer into space is the moment it stops messing around and pops his head like a zit.

He doesn't necessarily need to get close to an Endbringer to kill them.

This version seems to try and conserve his energy, likely because he lacked a Lantern to recharge for a while, so he most likely tries to use less energy intensive ways of dealing with things.

Combined that with whatever advanced weapons he has all he would have to do is just shoot them from a distance.

Also I think the only Endbringer that could potentially give him any trouble would be Behemoth, due to his energy manipulation powers, and even that may not be a guarantee due to Lord Protectors advanced tech and power ring.

Leviathan can try to shoot him with water, but that probably won't work, Khonsu could try and manipulate time around him, but power rings tend to be resistant to time manipulation and he most likely has tech to help with that, Simurgh could try to attack him with debris or make Tinker Tech, but again that probably won't work, and her whole precog and psychological manipulation thing may not work on him as we've seen with Tattletale that he may be immune to Thinker powers,etc.

Most Shard abilities of that vein would bypass any ring generated barrier due to messing with space.

Again dimensional defences that he most likely has.

Paragon and renegade may have a fairly easy time of dealing with this setting and its various threats.

Paragon can just use FEED ME on the Endbringers and even potentially Scion to beat them.

We've already seen that it can beat reality warping powers, like those of Devlos Ungol, and said powers were derived from the tech left behind by a Multiversal level threat i.e. the Anti Monitor.

Renegade also has access to advanced New God tech, and it wouldn't be surprising if they have something that can deal with things like Scion.

Technically there is a telepathy Shard, the Entities just only rarely use it because it's a massive waste of power and has to be separately calibrated for each being it's used on.

Provide a link that proves this.

Not you quoting it or just repeating that, but an actual link where this is stated.

Also even if they do have telepaths, that doesn't mean they'll be able to read his mind since he most likely has defences against mental intrusion.
 
The Shade can have Flash's shadow just kill him, while Fate most likely has protections against that sort of thing.

You're probably right in the context of a story. With a good writer taking some creative license it would be a fight. Like I said, it's a good thing that Flash isn't handled realistically.

When I think about theoretical fights with Flash my mind goes "Near light speed movement and attosecond reflexes. Everyone else is unconscious before they know they're in a fight." Which is what would logically happen. Even if it's his own shadow it's still being controlled by someone with normalish reaction times. But obviously that's not what happens in the comics because the people who write for Flash have the sense to not write him logically. In other words, they're better storytellers than me. :p There's a reason I'm always reading stories and never posting them.

And Fate? I'd imagine Fate would sever Shade's connection to the shadow dimension. Fight over.
 
No, the Warrior Entity only locked off the forms of dimension travel it knew about. Possibly by putting limitations into the shards being distributed, but that much is speculation on my part. External dimensional threats, especially those based on means that the Entities hadn't previously encountered, are still viable. Such is the nature of an Outside Context Problem.
No, it locked off all, there was a generated barrier.

Behemoth died in canon, and he didn't pull out all the stops in his final moments. The retaliation came in the form of new Endbringers that emulated the means of his execution: temporal powers for Khonsu, and coordinated parahuman abilities for Tohu.
Behemoth in canon died to Scion, and it actually did pull out all the stops in it's final moment, Scion just no sold it.

The author has already stated that Lord Protector has defenses against interdimensional shenanigans exactly like what you're referring to here.
No Zoat has not.

Holes in time, wells, echoes, slowed and accelerated time. Eidolon's second in command in Houston prior to Echidna, Dispatch, had the primary power to create a bubble of accelerated time around himself.
None of that is time travel...
 
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When I think about theoretical fights with Flash my mind goes "Near light speed movement and attosecond reflexes. Everyone else is unconscious before they know they're in a fight." Which is what would logically happen. Even if it's his own shadow it's still being controlled by someone with normalish reaction times

The Shade may be able to become intangible because of his shadow like nature, so the Flash may not be able to hit him.

No, it locked off all, there was a generated barrier.

It probably locked off all dimensional travel it knew about, so that leaves a very big chance that LP used something that he didn't know about.


since Lord Protector also has defences against interdimensional scanning
 
Possibly by putting limitations into the shards being distributed, but that much is speculation on my part.

While there's probably a dimensional black list for Shards, there does seem to be the ability to directly prevent travel.

Teacher created a device that can lock dimensional travel, which Khepri used on Scion before dropping a couple hundred Earths' nuclear arsenals on him.

It didn't do much because Scion, but it does point to there being a manner of blocking dimensional travel. There's no reason for Scion to have limited his personal kit after all.
 
This might not be a dimension travelling lord protector. The simpler answer is that we know he had plans for space travel and thundercats is on an alien planet in the same universe as worm.

Thundercat villains doing their thing to fight off entities with evil magic?
 

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