With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

[Duke Long]

The zombie doesn't say anything for a moment, though it's impossible to tell exactly where it's focusing its attention

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Missing full stop?

Sandro… Walks around Mazikeen to get a look at what she has under her mask. A little rude, but it's not as if she hasn't spent most of her life walking around with it uncovered. He regards it silently, apparently no longer interested in the walking corpse.

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Hahaha, what a fucking thing to do.

"Earth's air -and Ashan's- is mostly made up of two gasses, nitrogen and oxygen, in a ratio of about a four to one. You can replace nitrogen with other things, but the plants and animals that live there need oxygen. And the explosives in the demon zombie's weapons need it to ignite. Water is made of oxygen and hydrogen, which means that if you break it apart, you can get a gas you-. Which a living person can breathe."

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'zombies''?

Did anyone have DOOM on their bingo card list? Also any guesses on which DOOM it is(original series, movie, new trilogy).

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Only because Zoat already mentioned this was Phobos.

It's pretty clearly not the remakes because Doomguy is a relatively normal guy rather than whatever magical thing he was in those, plus I'd've bet against it anyway purely because Zoat tends to be a grognard. If the movie you mention is the one I'm thinking of it's not that either, both because it just doesn't fit and also because that movie was dogshit and I can't imagine it being written about except to make fun of it.

 

[Vaermina]

"Then how is Prince Endymion breathing?"

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He's a Planetary Guardian, he would be fine walking around the center of a black hole.

 

[B00ki5h]

Did anyone have DOOM on their bingo card list? Also any guesses on which DOOM it is(original series, movie, new trilogy).

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Money is on the movie, I don't recognize his name and I've never seen the movie.

 

[Mr Zoat]

Why do I hear boss music?

Not sure this link is supposed to be here...

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No. How did that get there?

"Lucky"

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That should say 'Warm'.

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Thank you, corrected.

Missing full stop?
'zombies''?

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Thank you, corrected.

and also because that movie was dogshit and I can't imagine it being written about except to make fun of it.

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That's the main reason.

 

[Bigking321]

This trip is going to some wildy random settings. Pretty fun.

 

[Duke Long]

That's the main reason.

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Wait, it is the movie? From Wikipedia I now see there have been two, and the one I've seen is probably not the one you're using because there weren't real demons in it. Good to know that Doom: Annihilation is shit too, not that I would've expected otherwise from a video game movie.

 

[Chaoswind]

Kudos to the guy that guessed right, its clearly NOT the movie, and since doom guy is still talking he its probably from the novelization of the first doom, anyone read those ancient books?

 

[GigaVanguard]

As much as Badass Normals have historically fared poorly against OL, that's the fuckmothering Doomguy. Let us hope they find no reason to come to blows.

 

[AverusBlack]

Huh. Does anyone know if any angels die in Doom? Or demons that have become angelic in Angelica's case? I'm assuming that the original spell that sent Paul, Mazikeen and Angelica to places they had conceptually "died" already but I don't know a lot about Doom lore.

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If this is Doom Eternal's timeline, this seems to be before he ended up with the Sentinels. Originally, as I understand it, doomguy started out just fighting the demons, ends up in Hell, somehow ends up on Argent D'nur via Hell and THEN he gets infused with super 'I'ma fuck you up' powers. So this is before his ascension, before Argent D'nur, before everything.

 

[WereDragon]

As much as Badass Normals have historically fared poorly against OL, that's the fuckmothering Doomguy. Let us hope they find no reason to come to blows.

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If it was Doomslayer, aka an eldritch abomination of memes and plot armour, then OL might have difficulty. Doom Guy is… just a guy. An exceedingly well armed, phenomenally skilled and arguably 'peak human' guy. But still a guy and no threat to a Lantern that is paying attention.

 

[Oglymogly]

I'm not honestly sure that they're possessed per se; I wouldn't be surprised if this was more the result of an excess of demonic magic.

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Huh, my first instinct is Doom or Wolfenstien.

I can detect transmissions from Mars and from Earth, but nothing that appears to be aimed at us."

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Ooooh, I'm going to guess Doom with radio waves coming from Mars.

"Where is Deimos?"

"Gone. There's a little exotic energy where it used to be… Probably some sort of teleportation residue I don't recognise."

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Huh, this likely is a massive clue to which universe and when in the story line they are, but I'm not remembering this.

Taggart, Flynn. Corporal, U.S. Marines

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Does Doomguy have a canon name? *Quick Google search* yes, originally from the unofficial comics. And doing more searches, Deimos being missing implies the original game timeline.

I'm excited for this, I hope Paul gives him some awesome power ups.

 

[Neruz]

Ohhh, oh crap. You are in the vicinity of the Doom Guy. Someday to be called the Doomslayer. Well, you better find your friend fast.And get the heck out of this universe cause nothing good will come from staying there.

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Wait, it is the movie? From Wikipedia I now see there have been two, and the one I've seen is probably not the one you're using because there weren't real demons in it. Good to know that Doom: Annihilation is shit too, not that I would've expected otherwise from a video game movie.

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If this is Doom Eternal's timeline, this seems to be before he ended up with the Sentinels. Originally, as I understand it, doomguy started out just fighting the demons, ends up in Hell, somehow ends up on Argent D'nur via Hell and THEN he gets infused with super 'I'ma fuck you up' powers. So this is before his ascension, before Argent D'nur, before everything.

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Does Doomguy have a canon name? *Quick Google search* yes, originally from the unofficial comics. And doing more searches, Deimos being missing implies the original game timeline.

I'm excited for this, I hope Paul gives him some awesome power ups.

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This is neither the game timeline(s) nor the movie timeline, Flynn Taggert is the protagonist of the DOOM books; he starts out with the same backstory as our good friend B.J. Blazkowicz aka Doomguy, however their storylines diverge part-way through and Flynn is entirely unconnected to the rest of the DOOM series, save for a reference in Doom Eternal confirming that Flynn Taggert had been retconned.

Paul and co may very well be a blessing to poor Flynn here, as his fate is to ultimately get his mind copied and trapped in a simulation, reliving the events of DOOM and DOOM 2 over and over forever.

e: Also, for reference, the Doom Slayer is technically a different character from a different DOOM timeline again, but for all practical intents and purposes can be considered B.J. Blazkowicz with his name taken away because John Romero decided he wanted the Doom Slayer to be nameless to "increase immersion" as he put it. They are completely identical in every other respect save for the name.

 

[Clell65619]

"Taggart, Flynn. Corporal, U.S. Marines. Tired, angry, beat up, nothing to eat or drink for two days. Picked a Hell of a time for a vacation."

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Okay, important question: Did Paul play enough Doom to still remember how to invoke God Mode?

 

[Doc Sithicus]

We're in DOOM, so these two are mandatory


View: https://youtu.be/qsjHbxVI3EI?list=RDqsjHbxVI3EI


View: https://youtu.be/IqnZgCSwOsw?list=RDIqnZgCSwOsw

 

[Someguy Somewhere]

And the explosives in the demon zombies' weapons need it to ignite.

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Incorrect.

Chemically speaking Smokeless or even black powders contain oxidizers and do not require external oxygen supplies to operate, nor ambient pressure or temperatures to fire, similar to solid booster rockets. Black powder ignition may be an issue using a flint, but a cap and ball firearm or modern primer and cartridge rounds would work fine in vacuum.

Temperature isn't a significant issue as the reaction is exothermic.

Mechanically speaking a lack of air may lead to additional wear and tear due to a lack of air resistance on moving parts and a lack of air cooling on barrel and chamber. The temperature would likely require 'dry' lubricants such as graphite powders rather than standard gun oils, which is common in desert environments .

Worst case scenario is similar metals can effectively weld themselves together in vacuum due to 'contact welding'. Which leads to simpler firearms like break action shotguns or revolvers would be more reliable over semi or fully automatic weapons.

 

[Mr Zoat]

Okay, important question: Did Paul play enough Doom to still remember how to invoke God Mode?

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Incorrect.

Chemically speaking Smokeless or even black powders contain oxidizers and do not require external oxygen supplies to operate, nor ambient pressure or temperatures to fire, similar to solid booster rockets. Black powder ignition may be an issue using a flint, but a cap and ball firearm or modern primer and cartridge rounds would work fine in vacuum.

Temperature isn't a significant issue as the reaction is exothermic.

Mechanically speaking a lack of air may lead to additional wear and tear due to a lack of air resistance on moving parts and a lack of air cooling on barrel and chamber. The temperature would likely require 'dry' lubricants such as graphite powders rather than standard gun oils, which is common in desert environments .

Worst case scenario is similar metals can effectively weld themselves together in vacuum due to 'contact welding'. Which leads to simpler firearms like break action shotguns or revolvers would be more reliable over semi or fully automatic weapons.

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Thank you, corrected.

 

[Chaoswind]

I wonder if Paul is going to make this guy a distinct figure to the silent Doom marine as the current canon of the DOOM series portraits, or if @Mr Zoat is going to make up something else. By the end of the novel its heavily implied only the brain copy trapped replaying the events of the hell break in an endless loop continues to exist and the OG human eventually gets killed. So this guy would be equivalent to a player two going through the areas the Nameless grunting Doomguy already partially cleared. Maybe Blaze is currently traveling with DOOMGUY and that is why she is no longer around anymore?

 

[Someguy Somewhere]

Sorry for the gun powder ramble, and good catch with the imp fire colours changing in different gas mixtures.

I guess I should refine my earlier statement a little, in that conventional firearms should work (and testing backs this up).

But there is a difference between 'working' and 'working well'. Conventional weapons are optimized for earth like conditions, and while they will likely fire in many environments, including underwater or in vacuum, that doesn't mean they will perform to the same degree, and if intended for use outside of the norm would likely be modified for different conditions.

Conventional Semi and Fully Automatic Firearms used underwater for example tend to fire properly for the first shot then fail to properly cycle the next due to water interfering with the internals, as it is a heavy non compressible fluid vs light compressible air. Thus requiring manually chambering the next round. Modifying the action to allow the water to be forced out of the way of the moving parts will allow a firearm to cycle, but may effect performance out of the water. Bullets fired underwater also dramatically hampered by the difference between rounds optimized for aerodynamics over hydrodynamics, and can lead to some chamber pressure issues because of the added resistance of displacing a barrel full of water. A good example of a firearm intended for underwater use would be the Russian APS Rifle which is, functionally a modified AK style system that opens up some space in the receiver for displaced water to flow out of the way when operating. It uses a longer more dart like round with better hydrodynamic performance, but can still switch back to conventional ammo for when the user comes out of the water. The Darts can be fired out of water but their ballistics in air are horrible and anything beyond close range would be be a miracle.

Modifying guns to work in space is something that have been looked into since the space race.

Some people smarter then me have a write up covering such things for enterprising sci-fi authors over at Project Rho

 

[Neruz]

From memory, the Soviets put an aircraft cannon on the Salyut-3 space station and fired it once a few hours before de-orbiting the station just to prove that it worked.

It did work, it was also completely pointless.