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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

'Dryad' covers a range of power levels. If she surpasses those, she'd just be a minor goddess. A metadryad would have to have a genuinely novel ability.

She does, though. Paul gave her the ability to use holy/blessed attacks and smite demons when she absorbed the essence of the Tree of Knowledge, which is something that other Dryads usually can't do. Thus, she has a unique ability that her sisters don't have, and combined with her immensely buffed natural abilities, that would make her the Dryad equivalent of superhuman. (Superdryad? Superplant?)
 
She does, though. Paul gave her the ability to use holy/blessed attacks and smite demons when she absorbed the essence of the Tree of Knowledge, which is something that other Dryads usually can't do. Thus, she has a unique ability that her sisters don't have, and combined with her immensely buffed natural abilities, that would make her the Dryad equivalent of superhuman. (Superdryad? Superplant?)
No, any dryad who had enough raw power and access to a piece of antediluvian wood could do the same. It's more like someone putting on an inertia belt; pretty nifty but hardly unique.
 
No, any dryad who had enough raw power and access to a piece of antediluvian wood could do the same. It's more like someone putting on an inertia belt; pretty nifty but hardly unique.

Okay, then what do you define as a genuinely novel ability, then? Because if novelty is what we're looking for, there's hardly anyone in the story who fits that criteria. Almost every power we've seen so far has at least one other person who also has that ability.

Take the Flashes, for example. By your own logic, wouldn't this mean that none of the Flashes would be true metahumans either, since anyone who has access to the Garrick Formula (or Speed Force, depending on the continuity) could do what they do, provided they get enough practice and experience with the power?
 
If i remember right, Euanthe was going to harmonize the piece of wood with the Green, thus causing all Earthly plant life to harm demons. Zatara was going to help her to make sure everything worked like she wanted it to. Then the anti life broadcast happened.
@Mr Zoat did she end up completing that project?
 
Schooled (part 13) New
22nd September 2013
16:12 GMT +2

I gesture to the blocks of metal and concrete that I had Ian get started on, testing his control and precision with his orally-generated flames. "Ian, are you alright carrying on with that while I get Toni started?"

"Sure, but… Ah. I feel like I… I was kind of a dick to her by using my actual name…"

I sigh. Fine. There's a lot of cultural momentum behind the superhero name idea, and that's a small price to pay in exchange for people with superpowers staying on the straight and narrow.

"Do you prefer 'Face' or 'The Face'?"

"Face. Like, 'I'm The Face, call me Face'."

"Alright, Face, Argent… Kara, what did you decide on?"

Today.

Toni frowns. "Isn't she Supergirl?"

Kara glares at me. "Yes!"

"No."

"Oh, come on!"

"Kara, we've been over this. The Kara from this universe gets first dibs. If you ever go home, you can call yourself Supergirl there and demand our Kara call herself something else."

"You let Noriel call herself 'Supergirl'!"

"Our Kara wasn't using it at the time, and no one wants to talk to Noriel about picking something else."

"That's totally unfair! She's not even kryptonian!"

"You can call yourself 'Supergirl' in Kryptonian if you want. What would that be?"

"Humpf!"

"Alright, Superhumpf then." Her mouth drops open, and she gives me a look of total betrayal. "Ah. Not sure what you should call me. Honestly, I'm fine with you using my name."

Toni frowns. "What about 'Orange Lantern'?"

"The problem with that is that I'm part of an Orange Lantern Corps with over a thousand members, and three of them are currently working on this planet."

"But they're not.. here."

"Alright, well, call me whatever you like. I am an Orange Lantern, my rank is Illustres and my name is a matter of public record. Superhumpf, could you-?"

"I'm not having that as my name!"

"You know the options."

"But Power Girl is so generic!"

I turn to… Argent and Face. "Do you have any suggestions?"

Face had been heading back to the test targets, but stops and turns around, looking uncertain. Argent frowns. "What other options did she get?"

"Superwoman, Flamebird and Nightwing."

"I'm not old enough for Superwoman! I'd have to be at least thirty!"

"Superman started calling himself Superman in his late teens."

"It's not the same!"

"Kara, I'm happy to call you anything-"

"Then how about-"

"-except-"

"-Supergirl!?" / "-Supergirl."

"Darn it!"

I gestures to her with my right arm. "Does anyone else have any suggestions for Kara?"

Argent looks a little lost. "Why 'Nightwing'?"

"'Nightwing' is the Anglicisation of the name of a figure from Kryptonian mythology. Same with 'Flamebird'."

Argent nods. "How about 'Mightygirl'?"

Quick check…

"'Mightygirl', one word, is available. 'Mighty-Girl', hyphenated, is not, and 'Mighty Girl', two words, is being used for several different things."

"I'm not calling myself Mightygirl, Mighty-Girl or Mighty Girl!"

"That version of you from the Justice Society International universe called herself 'Interceptor'?"

"Definitely not!"

"I think the version of you from Universe Twelve called herself 'Galatea', but she-"

"That's not so bad!"

"-was a clone of their Kara In-Ze, not a true doppelgänger of the original."

Her hands go to her hips again. "And what's wrong with being a clone?!"

"Kara, I'm friends with Superboy and Match. I don't have a problem with clones."

"It sure sounded like you did!"

"Kara, are you a clone?"

"No! I can be concerned about other people despite not being personally effected!"

She nods emphatically for emphasis.

"Okay. The problem with Galatea is that it's actually a name, so it's a little like your superhero name is 'Susan' or something."

She frowns. "Well-! Which of your ideas is cutest?!"

"In those parallel universes where Power Girl exists, she's generally considered to be the most aesthetically appealing."

She thinks for a moment, and then nods again. "Okay! Make me a copy of her costume for later, and I'll try it on!"

"Certainly. Face, as I said, get back to learning melting points. Argent, let's find out how much force you can block."

Argent nods. "Okay. How?"

"I'm going to throw things at your barriers until they break."

"Oh. Ah. Great."
 
Okay, then what do you define as a genuinely novel ability, then? Because if novelty is what we're looking for, there's hardly anyone in the story who fits that criteria. Almost every power we've seen so far has at least one other person who also has that ability.

Take the Flashes, for example. By your own logic, wouldn't this mean that none of the Flashes would be true metahumans either, since anyone who has access to the Garrick Formula (or Speed Force, depending on the continuity) could do what they do, provided they get enough practice and experience with the power?
A dryad with the power to manipulate vulcanized rubber.
Yes, that sounds about right.
If i remember right, Euanthe was going to harmonize the piece of wood with the Green, thus causing all Earthly plant life to harm demons. Zatara was going to help her to make sure everything worked like she wanted it to. Then the anti life broadcast happened.
@Mr Zoat did she end up completing that project?
I'd honestly forgotten about that. I'm going to provisionally say 'no'.
 
Well, if nothing else, it's going to be fun seeing how she reacts to the Power Girl costume.
 
She thinks for a moment, and then nods again. "Okay! Make me a copy of her costume for later, and I'll try it on!"

I can just see it now. Best Kara is offended by the boob window, and then he gives the bullshit explanation and then she loves it.

Que the stream of people constantly asking him, with more than a little shade, why he convinced Best Kara to add a boob window to her costume.
 
You know who this Kara reminds me of? That Teal Lantern SI. I'd assume it was unintentional except you did write a crossover with her and her coming back for revenge in this manner would not be completely ridiculous
 
This routine continues to be very fun. I hope we're going to stick with Kara for some time.
 
Always wondered how well known is grrlpower comic known in the wider internet.
It started out fun, but I had to drop it with the "all the mythical beings have a meeting" arc because Sydney was too much of an insufferable Mary Sue.

"In those parallel universes where Power Girl exists, she's generally considered to be the most aesthetically appealing."

She thinks for a moment, and then nods again. "Okay! Make me a copy of her costume for later, and I'll try it on!"

"Certainly.

...can we get Paul to make a bucket of popcorn the size of that cake? We're gonna need it.
 
…Kara 16 wanted Superwoman, but this Kara (who seems to be from mainline DC, or Golden Age, or whatever) was convinced to go with Superwoman by Paul. If she wants Supergirl again, that would make it easy, yes? I don't think Kara 16 changed her mind onscreen?
 
22nd September 2013
16:12 GMT +2


I gesture to the blocks of metal and concrete that I had Ian get started on, testing his control and precision with his orally-generated flames. "Ian, are you alright carrying on with that while I get Toni started?"

"Sure, but… Ah. I feel like I… I was kind of a dick to her by using my actual name…"
In an informal setting like this, personal names is fine. If you have to work with people whose identities aren't public, though, you'd have to use their 'made-up names' around people now in the know. Best to get into that habit now?

I sigh. Fine. There's a lot of cultural momentum behind the superhero name idea, and that's a small price to pay in exchange for people with superpowers staying on the straight and narrow.

"Do you prefer 'Face' or 'The Face'?"

"Face. Like, 'I'm The Face, call me Face'."
Ah, like The Batman in his early days, back before he was more openly operating with the League.

"Alright, Face, Argent… Kara, what did you decide on?"

Today.
Ah, the great name shuffle continues?

Toni frowns. "Isn't she Supergirl?"

Kara glares at me. "Yes!"

"No."
Unfortunately, it's not like you can call her Supergirl 'x', where 'x' is her universe of origin, since no-one's sure of that.

"Oh, come on!"

"Kara, we've been over this. The Kara from this universe gets first dibs. If you ever go home, you can call yourself Supergirl there and demand our Kara call herself something else."
If she ever visited, anyway. I doubt local Kara would except out of morbid curiosity.

"You let Noriel call herself 'Supergirl'!"

"Our Kara wasn't using it at the time, and no one wants to talk to Noriel about picking something else."
And angelic names aren't exactly unprecedented. Zauriel? Azrael (if Jean-Paul Valley is operating here yet?)

"That's totally unfair! She's not even kryptonian!"

"You can call yourself 'Supergirl' in Kryptonian if you want. What would that be?"
If this movie reference list is to believed, 'Uzod-Ani'. Hardly rolls off the tongue, doesn't it? This one makes it 'zhiuedhyv'. Sadly, Kryptonian in the comics wasn't codified in as much detail other than a letter cipher.

"Humpf!"

"Alright, Superhumpf then." Her mouth drops open, and she gives me a look of total betrayal. "Ah. Not sure what you should call me. Honestly, I'm fine with you using my name."
Have you actually mentioned that name to either of them, OL? Or at least had the Ring say it for you?

Toni frowns. "What about 'Orange Lantern'?"

"The problem with that is that I'm part of an Orange Lantern Corps with over a thousand members, and three of them are currently working on this planet."
And while using 'Orange Lantern' and a name is probably how they call a specific one via comms, that's kind of rude face-to-face.

"But they're not.. here."

"Alright, well, call me whatever you like. I am an Orange Lantern, my rank is Illustres and my name is a matter of public record. Superhumpf, could you-?"
I hope he's giving her the full 'hurrumph!' noise every time he uses that name. ...Kind of reminds me of Hellsing Abridged, with the Nazi werewolf meeting Alucard in episode eight.

"I'm not having that as my name!"

"You know the options."

"But Power Girl is so generic!"
Ah, the suffering of the late-era superhero trying to find a name that hasn't been taken yet...

I turn to… Argent and Face. "Do you have any suggestions?"

Face had been heading back to the test targets, but stops and turns around, looking uncertain. Argent frowns. "What other options did she get?"
Heh, he's torn between doing the thing and watching the byplay between the others.

"Superwoman, Flamebird and Nightwing."

"I'm not old enough for Superwoman! I'd have to be at least thirty!"
...Teenagers...

"Superman started calling himself Superman in his late teens."

"It's not the same!"
...Kind of accurate, though. Men are expected to be manly sooner, while women want to be seen as younger for a long time, no?

"Kara, I'm happy to call you anything-"

"Then how about-"
Ah, the bickering...

"-except-"

"-Supergirl!?" / "-Supergirl."
...Especially when they say the same thing at the same time with different emphases.

"Darn it!"

I gestures to her with my right arm. "Does anyone else have any suggestions for Kara?"
Hey, you could make it a global poll - have the whole world chime in on their picks.

Argent looks a little lost. "Why 'Nightwing'?"

"'Nightwing' is the Anglicisation of the name of a figure from Kryptonian mythology. Same with 'Flamebird'."
Though Nightwing better stay free until Robin 'graduates'...

Argent nods. "How about 'Mightygirl'?"

Quick check…

"'Mightygirl', one word, is available. 'Mighty-Girl', hyphenated, is not, and 'Mighty Girl', two words, is being used for several different things."
Could be worse, she could go for 'Strong Girl'. There's a Marvel character using the masculine version of the name...

"I'm not calling myself Mightygirl, Mighty-Girl or Mighty Girl!"

"That version of you from the Justice Society International universe called herself 'Interceptor'?"
Sadly, Kara here is not nearly militant enough to use the role name of a fighter aircraft.

"Definitely not!"

"I think the version of you from Universe Twelve called herself 'Galatea', but she-"
Which has so many mythological implications...

"That's not so bad!"

"-was a clone of their Kara In-Ze, not a true doppelgänger of the original."
Still odd that the DCAU used that name rather than making her Supes' cousin.

Her hands go to her hips again. "And what's wrong with being a clone?!"

"Kara, I'm friends with Superboy and Match. I don't have a problem with clones."
Does Kara have a problem? I know some kryptons are... Problematic about them.

"It sure sounded like you did!"

"Kara, are you a clone?"
That has been one of the possibilities floated about her origin, hasn't it?

"No! I can be concerned about other people despite not being personally effected!"

She nods emphatically for emphasis.
That's fair of her.

"Okay. The problem with Galatea is that it's actually a name, so it's a little like your superhero name is 'Susan' or something."

She frowns. "Well-! Which of your ideas is cutest?!"
'Cute' has different meanings to different cultures, you know. Just look at stuff like Japan.

"In those parallel universes where Power Girl exists, she's generally considered to be the most aesthetically appealing."

She thinks for a moment, and then nods again. "Okay! Make me a copy of her costume for later, and I'll try it on!"
...Oh, that's going to be hilarious, especially when she sees the window.

"Certainly. Face, as I said, get back to learning melting points. Argent, let's find out how much force you can block."

Argent nods. "Okay. How?"
I mean, how else to test durability?

"I'm going to throw things at your barriers until they break."

"Oh. Ah. Great."
Don't worry, you don't have to be standing behind them. That would be irresponsible.

Oh, the teasing of Kara. She has to know that if she didn't respond so intensely, OL wouldn't do it so much, right? It wouldn't be as much fun, after all. Giving Face a good idea of how intense a blast of heat is needed for various materials is clever, though. Wonder if the shape of his mouth alters the intensity of the flame? Imagine if puckering up could make it a plasma lance...

It started out fun, but I had to drop it with the "all the mythical beings have a meeting" arc because Sydney was too much of an insufferable Mary Sue.
It does improve past there. The comic is nominally about her and she does have one of the most advanced and powerful powersets in the setting... If she can last long enough to learn how to use it. Maxima is the current focus of a lot of pages right now...
...Although at the time of writing, their website is a little borked due to HTTPS upgrading work. They're working on it.
 

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