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If I remember correctly, the only reason her parents allowed this is because the Renegade told them that letting Gloria possess Linda's body lets Linda's soul out of Hell.
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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)
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WereDragon
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Historically his actions are less likely to blow up in his face than to wonder off then come back to bite him in the arse later.
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i read it as a spiritual copy/paste
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That's not quite true. There are many different kinds of demons in DC cosmology that work in different ways, and many of them have shown the ability to reform and live happy lives without making people suffer.
In other words, demons aren't evil because their nature dictates them to be, they're evil if they they choose to be dicks.
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I don't recall any actual Hell demon (as opposed to other things that are also called demons) that lived a 'good' life without a constant ongoing struggle against their nature.
In fact thats usually one of the major core plot elements of demon\half-demon character's story arcs; the struggle to not be what they are.
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I have truly missed the renegade.
Sad we didnt get Luna bits, but i do hope we can see more soon from our favorite New God
Sad we didnt get Luna bits, but i do hope we can see more soon from our favorite New God
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I want to see if she can manipulate the matter of the Earth's moon. Moonrock golems, magical moonrock defenses that spring up from beneath Colorado if a spaceship takes aim... I don't really know how practical moon powers are without space travel, but I hope she got something.
I never actually watched the cartoon.
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... OK, I'm blanking on who the sister-in-law in question is, since 'our' was used. Help?
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Bekka, probably.
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18th July 2013
18:47
I watch as Gloria scurries away… As much as a pregnant woman can really 'scurry'. I'm not sure why. A demon's normal instinct is to suck up to the boss as much as possible, and that's definitely me in this situation. What I did to her should cause her to accept change and novel experiences for what they are… For as long as she accepts a solution from me. She shouldn't even really notice that she's doing it. But nothing about that…
Eh, I suppose it doesn't matter. I can-.
The Boy lands next to me, wings turning back into arms as soon as he's nullified his momentum. They've all gotten rather good at that. Miss Dash was briefly curious, until it turned out that without a way to approximate pegasus pony magic there wasn't really anything she could teach them.
I give him a broad smile. "Son!"
"Fa-"
I wrap my arms around him, picking him up so that I can embrace him to my chest.
"-ther."
I release him at once, a look of grave concern on my face. "Oh? What have I done?"
He blinks. "Done?"
"I call Darkseid 'Father' because I hate him. I only called Dad 'Father' when he did something annoying or stupid. If you're being self-conscious about me hugging you, too bad, boy."
"No? I-."
I extend my right hand and rub his head.
"How about now?"
"No, F-. Dad."
I remove my hand. "See? That wasn't hard. Now, what could possibly have persuaded you to leave your younger siblings to their own devices."
He tenses slightly. "Lynne and Cassandra are looking after them."
I nod, smiling to try and communicate that I didn't mean it as a slight. "And Knockout, and Persuader, and a small army of g-elves. I merely note that it's unusual for you to let them out of your sight. I actually think it's a good thing. I respect your sense of responsibility, but they are their own people."
"Yes-. Dad. Um. I wanted to ask you something… About… Us."
I nod slowly. "Us..?"
"My blood siblings. About… Blood. Because we're.. vampires."
"You can ask me anything. I can always say 'no'."
He looks down for a moment, trying to organise his thoughts. "Do you think..? Are we..? Supposed to.. avoid..?" He sags a little. "Are we not allowed to drink blood?"
"I don't remember telling you not to drink blood."
"No, but… We don't.. feel the blood hunger any more, and… Sunset says that we're healthy… As far as she can tell."
I nod, because… They are. If there was any sign that the alchemical concoction I dose them with to dim their instincts was harming them, then… I'd have to take a few ill-advised risks very quickly. So I keep a careful eye on all of their test results, changes in their behaviour… Anything like that.
"But… Miss Gloria said-"
My head tilts us so that I can affix my eyes to her back. "Ah."
"-that if we… Didn't, then we'd never get as strong as we could be. But you've spent a lot of time making it so we didn't need to, so I thought you didn't want us to."
"I don't want you to turn into a ravening beast, no. Do you want to drink blood?"
"I.. don't know? It's-." He hesitates again. "Did you know that Lynne's stronger than m-? She's stronger than us?"
New God patterned after me, versus… Honestly, Lynne's just lucky that her skin hasn't turned grey. "No, I didn't."
"We found out when we helped with the setting up." He looks around. "She could carry more stuff than-. Than me. And she didn't get tired."
"I'm not totally surprised by that. New God Elites are fairly powerful."
"And so I asked Miss Gloria how I could get stronger."
"And she pointed out that you don't do things that would fully empower either your demon or vampire sides."
"She-. Yes."
I regard him curiously. "And?"
"And she.. wasn't very polite about it."
I could be annoyed about that, but I knew that she was a demon when I hired her. I just nod. "Something along the lines of… 'You'll always be weak if you refuse the power you were born to'?"
"… Sort of."
I shrug. "Boy, I give you and your natural siblings those drugs so that you're not compelled to tear people apart like rabid animals. Because I want you to have the capability to make decisions for yourselves. If it's something that you've decided to do for yourself, then I don't have a problem with it-. Ah, though I'm going to insist that you hold off experimenting with your incubus powers until you're at least sixteen."
"Oh."
"On Apokolips, if you don't seize every advantage you can to keep yourself safe, then you end up a slave if you're lucky. There are vampires who learn to function within human society despite drinking blood, and if that's the route you want to go down, then you have my support."
He looks up at me nervously. "How..? Would it.. work?"
"You remember General Fang?" He nods. "The Chinese have a remarkably efficient form of execution. You see, they recognised that there was always a shortage of organs for donation. And of course China is very big, and transporting organs long distance reduced their viability for transplant, so… How to square that circle? Transport the person you were going to execute to a hospital, bring the patients there, then do it as a job lot."
"Wouldn't..? Wouldn't the lethal injection damage the organs?"
"Heh. Heh." I shake my head. "'No one's ever survived one of their organ donation procedures before, but I imagine that if one did they'd work something out." He looks confused-. He hasn't watched that film. Right. "Son, those under my command kill dozens of people every day at a bare minimum. If you want to try eating one of them, you can just say so. They were going to die anyway; we may as well get some use out of them first."
"O.. kay. Should I.. stop taking the medicine?"
"Not… To begin with, I think. It may be that the feral hunger overtakes you only when you're starving, or it may be that that's your natural state. We won't know until you try, and I think we'd both rather err on the side of caution." He nods. "Do you want me to come along, or would that be awkward?"
"I'd.. like it if you came with me. Just.. in case something goes wrong."
I nod. "No problem. I'll set something up and then come and fetch you. Alright?"
He smiles faintly, and nods. "Yes. Thank you-. Father."
I snort, then give him a gentle shove in the direction of the play area. "Get on with you, boy. Go play with your friends. I'll check in on your siblings. And, ah… When your incubus powers start coming in, you know you can talk to me about those too, right?" He nods. "Good lad. Off you go."
And now I've got to contact Jade and find out what malcontent is on the menu.
18:47
I watch as Gloria scurries away… As much as a pregnant woman can really 'scurry'. I'm not sure why. A demon's normal instinct is to suck up to the boss as much as possible, and that's definitely me in this situation. What I did to her should cause her to accept change and novel experiences for what they are… For as long as she accepts a solution from me. She shouldn't even really notice that she's doing it. But nothing about that…
Eh, I suppose it doesn't matter. I can-.
The Boy lands next to me, wings turning back into arms as soon as he's nullified his momentum. They've all gotten rather good at that. Miss Dash was briefly curious, until it turned out that without a way to approximate pegasus pony magic there wasn't really anything she could teach them.
I give him a broad smile. "Son!"
"Fa-"
I wrap my arms around him, picking him up so that I can embrace him to my chest.
"-ther."
I release him at once, a look of grave concern on my face. "Oh? What have I done?"
He blinks. "Done?"
"I call Darkseid 'Father' because I hate him. I only called Dad 'Father' when he did something annoying or stupid. If you're being self-conscious about me hugging you, too bad, boy."
"No? I-."
I extend my right hand and rub his head.
"How about now?"
"No, F-. Dad."
I remove my hand. "See? That wasn't hard. Now, what could possibly have persuaded you to leave your younger siblings to their own devices."
He tenses slightly. "Lynne and Cassandra are looking after them."
I nod, smiling to try and communicate that I didn't mean it as a slight. "And Knockout, and Persuader, and a small army of g-elves. I merely note that it's unusual for you to let them out of your sight. I actually think it's a good thing. I respect your sense of responsibility, but they are their own people."
"Yes-. Dad. Um. I wanted to ask you something… About… Us."
I nod slowly. "Us..?"
"My blood siblings. About… Blood. Because we're.. vampires."
"You can ask me anything. I can always say 'no'."
He looks down for a moment, trying to organise his thoughts. "Do you think..? Are we..? Supposed to.. avoid..?" He sags a little. "Are we not allowed to drink blood?"
"I don't remember telling you not to drink blood."
"No, but… We don't.. feel the blood hunger any more, and… Sunset says that we're healthy… As far as she can tell."
I nod, because… They are. If there was any sign that the alchemical concoction I dose them with to dim their instincts was harming them, then… I'd have to take a few ill-advised risks very quickly. So I keep a careful eye on all of their test results, changes in their behaviour… Anything like that.
"But… Miss Gloria said-"
My head tilts us so that I can affix my eyes to her back. "Ah."
"-that if we… Didn't, then we'd never get as strong as we could be. But you've spent a lot of time making it so we didn't need to, so I thought you didn't want us to."
"I don't want you to turn into a ravening beast, no. Do you want to drink blood?"
"I.. don't know? It's-." He hesitates again. "Did you know that Lynne's stronger than m-? She's stronger than us?"
New God patterned after me, versus… Honestly, Lynne's just lucky that her skin hasn't turned grey. "No, I didn't."
"We found out when we helped with the setting up." He looks around. "She could carry more stuff than-. Than me. And she didn't get tired."
"I'm not totally surprised by that. New God Elites are fairly powerful."
"And so I asked Miss Gloria how I could get stronger."
"And she pointed out that you don't do things that would fully empower either your demon or vampire sides."
"She-. Yes."
I regard him curiously. "And?"
"And she.. wasn't very polite about it."
I could be annoyed about that, but I knew that she was a demon when I hired her. I just nod. "Something along the lines of… 'You'll always be weak if you refuse the power you were born to'?"
"… Sort of."
I shrug. "Boy, I give you and your natural siblings those drugs so that you're not compelled to tear people apart like rabid animals. Because I want you to have the capability to make decisions for yourselves. If it's something that you've decided to do for yourself, then I don't have a problem with it-. Ah, though I'm going to insist that you hold off experimenting with your incubus powers until you're at least sixteen."
"Oh."
"On Apokolips, if you don't seize every advantage you can to keep yourself safe, then you end up a slave if you're lucky. There are vampires who learn to function within human society despite drinking blood, and if that's the route you want to go down, then you have my support."
He looks up at me nervously. "How..? Would it.. work?"
"You remember General Fang?" He nods. "The Chinese have a remarkably efficient form of execution. You see, they recognised that there was always a shortage of organs for donation. And of course China is very big, and transporting organs long distance reduced their viability for transplant, so… How to square that circle? Transport the person you were going to execute to a hospital, bring the patients there, then do it as a job lot."
"Wouldn't..? Wouldn't the lethal injection damage the organs?"
"Heh. Heh." I shake my head. "'No one's ever survived one of their organ donation procedures before, but I imagine that if one did they'd work something out." He looks confused-. He hasn't watched that film. Right. "Son, those under my command kill dozens of people every day at a bare minimum. If you want to try eating one of them, you can just say so. They were going to die anyway; we may as well get some use out of them first."
"O.. kay. Should I.. stop taking the medicine?"
"Not… To begin with, I think. It may be that the feral hunger overtakes you only when you're starving, or it may be that that's your natural state. We won't know until you try, and I think we'd both rather err on the side of caution." He nods. "Do you want me to come along, or would that be awkward?"
"I'd.. like it if you came with me. Just.. in case something goes wrong."
I nod. "No problem. I'll set something up and then come and fetch you. Alright?"
He smiles faintly, and nods. "Yes. Thank you-. Father."
I snort, then give him a gentle shove in the direction of the play area. "Get on with you, boy. Go play with your friends. I'll check in on your siblings. And, ah… When your incubus powers start coming in, you know you can talk to me about those too, right?" He nods. "Good lad. Off you go."
And now I've got to contact Jade and find out what malcontent is on the menu.
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genkumon
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The boy's name is Paul. Despite everything Grayven still hasn't got past being able to say the name, just like normal Paul.
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Though it'll be some time before we see any positive or negative results of the process, I expect. Fortunately, motherhood should be enough change and novel experiences to keep her occupied for a long time yet.
Ah, the vampire-succubus child known as Paul. Good to see him and his siblings flexing their inheritance.
Heh, the classic embarrassing hug.
Typical Renegade, trolling at every opportunity.
He's a teenager. Crippling self-consciousness comes with the territory even before you get to the succupire traits.
Ah, the critical strike of parental embarrassment. Headpats!
See. No need to be formal, kiddo.
Either one of them being a terrifying guardian. Both together are a goth-girl one-two punch.
He can't help being overprotective, he's the oldest.
Which 'us', though? Father and son? The whole family? The Renegade's full empire?
Starting to get a little thirsty, eh?
Interesting. I wonder what bring this on? Curiosity about his heritages?
Good plan. They're a very delicate confluence of genetics.
She is a succubus, right?, So seeing the kids not trying to tap into that power would be like a bird watching others refusing to fly...
No worrying cravings, I hope? Or is this just a case of an equivalent to 'why do girls suddenly look so interesting to me?' that most teenage boys seem to experience at some point.
I suspect that that's only because she understands that grey skin isn't as attractive. Much like how in the Belgariad, the immortal male Sorcerers tend to become hoary old men, but the female one(s) retain a healthy motherly youthfulness. Because getting old would make them crones, and that's no fun.
Is that all this is? Feeling a little shown up buy a slip of a girl?
...She would. But there are more paths to strength than indulging your worst nature.
I mean, she doesn't get paid for politeness. That's a bonus, really.
Except that the 'power he was born to' is rather self-centered and destructive, and he has this little thing called empathy.
A reasonable suggestion. Although indulging the other aspect might run into other moral objections.
I expect things like blood bank withdrawals are a common thing. Albeit as a very tricky thing to arrange.
Pragmatic, if a little callous.
I guess that's one way to let the kids experiment safely...
Sort of like a man taking his newly-legal son out drinking, really.
Just a fun old day out with the old man. And they can ease the other kids into it if it goes well...
The incubus thing is probably a bit more complicated - and embarrassing - than the usual 'birds and the bees' talk, I bet.
Well, a pleasant chat with Paul the succupire. And yes, that's why the Renegade wasn't using his name. I suppose it's only natural that the youngsters would start to explore their heritages as they grow up. Just imagine if one or more of the kids start to delve into their dual natures and find one or the other enjoyable? Still, with guidance, they can stay safe and perhaps become something heroic...
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It might well be the latter, on the basis that even though he originally took the name basically as a joke, by this point, after all this time and everything that has happened (not least nomming the soul of the Original Flavour) he is Grayven.
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Thank you, corrected.
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From September 2023, which is well after the merge.
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Father!? Suplex that boy into some pillows for the disrespect!
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Given how strong Grayven is, the pillows probably wouldn't help.
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Hey, Zoat? Do you have any art of Luna's human form?
Also, hoping to get one more renegade chapter before going back to Paragon, really want more Luna/Grayven moments
Also, hoping to get one more renegade chapter before going back to Paragon, really want more Luna/Grayven moments
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I remember there was a picture of what she looked like in Dream Baghdad.
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Since nobody quoted your post so you might've missed the answer: his name is Paul, which no Paul-the-MC can say, including Grayven.
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Indeed, that was the case, thank you very much!
And while I'm handing out thank you, thank you to the author for writing and sharing a amazing story!
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I'm not saying they don't struggle against their darker impulses, but at the same time, the fact that they have the ability to do so at all proves that they have both a conscience and some humanity in them. Some of them even manage to get a job, make friends, find love and all other kinds of stuff in spite of their issues.
Besides, how does struggling against their darker impulses make them any different from us, exactly? Think about it: you think there aren't humans out there who struggle with homicidal impulses, depraved sexual fetishes or crippling addictions that they don't have to fight against every day (examples: reformed serial killers, reformed pedos or recovering drug addicts)?
You know, this raises an interesting question regarding Luna's powers: What happens if the moon suddenly STOPS being a moon? Could she still control it?
I mean, a moon is supposed to be a planetary satellite that orbits around a planet, right? So if Earth were to suddenly disappear and get separated from its moon, then it wouldn't be a moon anymore, just a giant floating space rock. Would Luna still be able to control it?
Furthermore, what about the inverse? If we took some random big asteroid and made it orbit around Earth to become a new moon, would Luna suddenly gain the ability to control it?
Now that's an interesting situation: What happens if one of the Pauls stands in a room with a bunch of other people who are also named Paul that aren't SIs? Would he just keep referring to them as "that guy"?
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If he was randomly stuffed in a Paul convention I feel he'd use his ring to issue them all numbers and refer to them as such, because really, how often do you have a room full of Paul's? And what would the other Paul's call each other?
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P-Dawg. P-Diddy. P-El. Etc.