nightblade
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Yeah the fact that there is already a group of genocidal nut jobs out there should tell you that there are probably going to be nasty reactions over this.
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nightblade said:That depends on people being rational. That is not going to happen. They are probably going to do their best to destroy the evil pieces and kill the one that makes them.
Socialize Charms?Smuthunter said:Where are you getting the idea that we can "deal with" massive upheavals in devil society?
noahgab1133 said:your blowing this way out of proportion. This is easy modo quest. The evil piece system gets revealed canonically right after the treaty is signed. There is no big blow up like the kind your fear mongering. The old devils actually agree they had a good run and its time to embrace the new generation after riaser fight in canon. The old maou section is the one that goes bull shit insane when the evil pieces thing were invented and kept gaining prominence and when the three factions got peace they decided to muck things up. I'm all in favor of weeding these guys out, if a secret gets revealed early than canon hey it happens.
the reason why i voted for option one is because it gives more credit to rias which she really needs rather than hurting riaser which we already accomplished.
to keep things short. Sure there would be fall out but we can deal with it. Or we can ignore it for now and bring it up once we have fully analyzed the evil pieces. Worry about that now is kinda pointless.
At the very least, we should ask if she has ambitions of her own beyond just getting out of marriage. I don't think the novels ever actually touched on that.Silversun17 said:I'm wondering if Rias might start making a serious move after this if the vote focusing on her accomplishments win.
Smuthunter said:At the very least, we should ask if she has ambitions of her own beyond just getting out of marriage. I don't think the novels ever actually touched on that.
Dude we already said what he said to set us off.Aleh said:[X] Smuthunter's original.
Why? Well, it's the only one so far that includes just what Riser said to set us off.
And, thus, it's the only one that tells the people watching just what he was trying to do.
Stunt=You stare down at Raiser's accusing form, noting that for all the outrage he professes the pureblood devil can't even match eyes with you. Contempt drips from your every word as you bellow out your response, your every word capturing the attention of the onlooking devils.
"Your words ring hollow, Raiser Phenex. You speak of lost glories of your houses and of the travesty of letting their legacies end but mere minutes ago you derided Rias's own accomplishments. Her actions show how capable she is, and how worthy she is of leading House Gremory in whichever manner she chooses, yet all you can think of is how much longer you'll have to wait to reduce her to a pretty trinket hanging off your arm! She is not your possession you pathetic worm!"
You seethe in fury, but remembering Rias brings an errant thought to mind; this must be "that matter" that she wanted to handle by herself. You'll have to apologize later, you seem to be stealing one of her kills.
"You and your ilk disgust me, Raiser! You feign sorrow at the loss of your bloodlines even as you stand ready to hold back the most capable among you. What was it you said to me not moments ago? 'Her role will be to be my docile and devoted wife. There is no need for her to fight.' If you're threatened by the accomplishments of the new devils, then match and exceed them! Instead all you can do is drag everyone down to your level, ready to lock Rias in a gilded cage and murder those whose only crime is to make something of themselves."
[] Max Presence 1st Excellency + Enemy-Castigating Solar Judgment + Irresistible Salesman Spirit + Channel Compassion
-[] As Raiser's words sink in you think back on all the time you've spent together with Rias and her friends. Not her peerage, her friends. You've only known them a few weeks but you have vivid memories of smiling faces and good times shared together.
"I will take Rias back to the underworld, even if I have to burn you and all of her servants!"
"Her role will be to be my docile and devoted wife. There is no need for her to fight. Me and my Peerage will fight in the Rating Games and bring glory to the house of Phenex."
Your vision shatters like a pane of glass, leaving you back on the school field with Raiser and your audience, now nearly doubled in size. The moment is pregnant, the field completely silent and waiting for your response. Across the field, you briefly catch Rias's eye before refocusing on your opponent, wary of a surprise attack.
But for all that you burn with rage, your response is as cold as ice.
"Your base prejudice is not an excuse for your actions, Raiser Phenex. You threatened to drag Rias back to hell with you regardless of her own will. You threatened to murder the people she holds most dear if that was what it took! And all so you can lock her in a cage and use her as a brood mare for your STUPID FUCKING BLOOD POLITICS!!!"
As if on cue, the dragon in your anima screams in sky-shattering fury, as if one mouth alone could not properly vent your apocalyptic rage.
"I care nothing for your bigotry, Phenex! If it were Rias's wish to marry you I would not have raised a hand to stop her! But you! You came here intent on ruining the precious happiness of one of my dearest friends, and for something as meaningless as maintaining your political power! I was wrong to even call you a phoenix! A person like that can only be called a worm!"
[X] Variant 2-Raiser's Folly(codeRR, Selias, dreadis)Channel-Charisma: OO + Presence: OOOO + Defying the Established Social Order (Presence) OOO
Max Presence 1st Excellency + Enemy-Castigating Solar Judgment + Irresistible Salesman Spirit + Channel Compassion
Stunt=You stare down at Raiser's accusing form, noting that for all the outrage he professes the pureblood devil can't even match eyes with you. Contempt drips from your every word as you bellow out your response, your every word capturing the attention of the onlooking devils.
"Your words ring hollow, Raiser Phenex. You speak of lost glories of your houses and of the travesty of letting their legacies end but mere minutes ago you derided Rias's own accomplishments. Her actions show how capable she is, and how worthy she is of leading House Gremory in whichever manner she chooses, yet all you can think of is how much longer you'll have to wait to reduce her to a pretty trinket hanging off your arm! She is not your possession you pathetic worm!"
You seethe in fury, but remembering Rias brings an errant thought to mind; this must be "that matter" that she wanted to handle by herself. You'll have to apologize later, you seem to be stealing one of her kills.
"You and your ilk disgust me, Raiser! You feign sorrow at the loss of your bloodlines even as you stand ready to hold back the most capable among you. What was it you said to me not moments ago? 'Her role will be to be my docile and devoted wife. There is no need for her to fight.' If you're threatened by the accomplishments of the new devils, then match and exceed them! Instead all you can do is drag everyone down to your level, ready to lock Rias in a gilded cage and murder those whose only crime is to make something of themselves."
Channel-Charisma: OO + Presence: OOOO + Defying the Established Social Order (Presence) OOO
Max Presence 1st Excellency + Enemy-Castigating Solar Judgment + Irresistible Salesman Spirit + Channel Compassion
Stunt=You stare down at Raiser's accusing form, noting that for all the outrage he professes the pureblood devil can't even match eyes with you. Contempt drips from your every word as you bellow out your response, your every word capturing the attention of the onlooking devils.
"Your words ring hollow, Raiser Phenex. You speak of lost glories of your houses and of the travesty of letting their legacies end but mere minutes ago you derided Rias's own accomplishments. Her actions show how capable she is, and how worthy she is of leading House Gremory in whichever manner she chooses, yet all you can think of is how much longer you'll have to wait to reduce her to a pretty trinket hanging off your arm! She is not your possession you pathetic worm!"
You seethe in fury, but remembering Rias brings an errant thought to mind; this must be "that matter" that she wanted to handle by herself. You'll have to apologize later, you seem to be stealing one of her kills.
"You and your ilk disgust me, Raiser! You feign sorrow at the loss of your bloodlines even as you stand ready to hold back the most capable among you. What was it you said to me not moments ago? 'Her role will be to be my docile and devoted wife. There is no need for her to fight.' If you're threatened by the accomplishments of the new devils, then match and exceed them! Instead all you can do is drag everyone down to your level, ready to lock Rias in a gilded cage and murder those whose only crime is to make something of themselves.
You arrogant fool! For all that you speak of ancient legacies & bloodlines, your own ignorance of the workings of the Peerage system has you working against your own stated goals. When someone joins a peerage, their new devil body is imprinted from a template of their King changing them so they are related to them as if they were a niece or a nephew. In your willingness to slaughter Rias's Peerage to force her to marry you, you would do much more to thin her bloodline than anything you accuse me of!"
Z000 said:[] Variant 1-Rias's Accomplishments
Why is every one choosing this vote ?
It's explicit about the hypocrisy of Raiser's defenses and goals, and points out exactly what he thinks about and intends for Rias. Not to mention again underlining that he was willing to kill her peerage(and us) to get what he wanted.Z000 said:[] Variant 1-Rias's Accomplishments
Why is every one choosing this vote ?
EternitynChaos said:megrisvernin thinking about it, your usually better then this, there is no interaction with anything in those stunts, just talking nothing about the scene, nothing about Issei or the crowd nothing but words, that's one thing Smuts original had going for it I was admit
nightblade said:
Get megs to add it.Aleh said:No, the listeners know that he threatened our friends, possibly a bit more.
The "He planned to kill her peerage and drag her back to Hell to be his brood mare against her will" bit? Well, I can't say much about Devil society... but if we make an accusation like that under these circumstances and he doesn't immediately deny it... well, by Japanese standards, it'd basically be grounds for her to unilaterally annul the engagement.
With prejudice, and without loss of face on Rias's part. Hell, traditional families would regard it as grounds for her to kill him.
The political fallout would be glorious.
None of the other options quite have that effect. Or level of fallout.
We are worried about what has a pretty damn good chance of happening.codeRR said:Cause people are freaking out on what the underworld could do when it's revealed that reincarnated devil's are related to the king's.