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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

have stopped this year's harvest has been massively disrupted.

'stopped, this years' add a comma

"I… But… No one's seen her months. Before the Sheeda. She did those interviews, then just vanished.. So no one really wants to go down that road."

Oh

You did play a small part in her joing the Legion of Superheroes.

He's also very very clever."

'very, very' add a comma.

This is the first wide scale planetary attack we've had to deal with.

The Appelaxian invasion was a handful of aliens attacking the League, or the pre League.

Outside a handful of superheroes no one been to the moon in decades,

'of a handful'

'no one has been'

"There's no one bad actor I can point to,

Boss Smiley is a good bet.

It's sort of the reverse of Yagami Light

'Light's'

What will the next episode be called?
 
On a scale of 1-10 how hard did Luthor laugh after hearing Pauls speech on Live TV?

Because that is everything he's wanted to say to the world for quite a while, even his supervillain mania/obsession with superman prevented him from getting the message out properly.

The fact that most people are now going to be highly receptive to that kind of thinking now must have him happier than he's been in a long long time.
Wasn't there a movie where he cures cancer and proceeds to turn it into a treatment plan that lasts for years?
 
Wasn't there a movie where he cures cancer and proceeds to turn it into a treatment plan that lasts for years?

The only real time I remember Luthor and cures in a movie was in that one animated one with the Superman clone, where Luthor made a cure for a disease and then ordered it to be reduced in its effectiveness so that he can make more money by selling more of it instead of curing people from just one shot.
 
"There's no one bad actor I can point to, no one point of failure, just thousands of failures taken over the course of decades. A wilful embrace of 'getting by'. This is the price of mediocrity. And I really don't want anyone to ever have to pay it again."
The most relatable thing I've seen in this story.
One would think that a global catastrophe with countless preventable deaths would be enough to get a planet to get it's act together, yet our civilization seems content to chug along with barely any changes after covid-19, and after reading this I have to wonder if it is because of, as zoat puts it "A wilful embrace of 'getting by'". A failure across many decades of accepting mediocrity in our public institutions.

Of course QQ isn't the place to discuss the details of the success or failure of government response to covid, but props to zoat for using connections to modern events to make your setting more relatable (assuming it was intentional).
 
Love that speech! So many pieces if fiction turn me off because they never have the balls to actually go through with the consequences of the stuff they show.

I love Stargate because it is one of the few shows that actually showed the heroes incorporating new tech.

Granted, not to the degree they should have and there was always the dumb "secrecy" excuse, but still.
 
"... Not one inhabited world in a thousand has access to magic. ..."
Do we have a reason for this in-universe yet?

My hypothesis is that the Sheeda's Harrowing with violent mass-murder every few millenia means far more ambient magic generated via broken-down souls from previous sophont species; it's probably an exponential thing so it would also indicate that most other magic-infused worlds have their own regular, forgotten disasters/Harrowings.
 
"There's no one bad actor I can point to, no one point of failure, just thousands of failures taken over the course of decades. A wilful embrace of 'getting by'. This is the price of mediocrity. And I really don't want anyone to ever have to pay it again."
*Boss Smiley Laughs in the background*
 
Do we have a reason for this in-universe yet?

My hypothesis is that the Sheeda's Harrowing with violent mass-murder every few millenia means far more ambient magic generated via broken-down souls from previous sophont species; it's probably an exponential thing so it would also indicate that most other magic-infused worlds have their own regular, forgotten disasters/Harrowings.
I think it was explained as The Guardians getting rid of magic as best they could because for some reason that was one piece of DC's jank cosmology they could not abide by.
 
27th June 2012
01:53 GMT +5:30


A superhero's work is never done.
Especially when one leaves tasks unfinished. I know you don't think it's your job, OL, but you really need to check up on things instead of trusting other people's common sense, something we know is in short supply around there...

It's sort of the reverse of Yagami Light plan of killing the worst people in the world, even if the worst weren't very bad. There's always something you can be doing, even if it's not all that significant.
Not noted is that ultimately, his plan failed utterly in the end. All he did was kill a bunch of people who were ultimately insignificant in the long run, then end up getting himself killed stupidly...

In my case, that's using the 'opportunity' provided by the Sheeda depopulating vast areas of Indian slums to replace the cramp and unsanitary hovels with something a little more fit for human sanitation. I also deposited a few hundred tonnes of L.E.G.I.O.N. humanoid-safe field rations from the ships who finally put in an appearance in the hands of local aid agencies, because even though the attacks have stopped this year's harvest has been massively disrupted. And the looting and fire-setting didn't exactly help. Despite how hard it got hit, India looks like it will pull through with its government structures more or less intact.
Because very few in leadership positions would have gotten harvested once people knew about it... I wonder how much effort they put into stopping the attacks on the poor.

Unlike South America. Or most of Africa.

Another media reference: a Doctor Who episode in which the leader of a group of humans who'd been fighting the daleks remarked that there wasn't any point in having medics, because the daleks never inflicted non-fatal injuries. The Sheeda appear to act on a similar paradigm. I have moved medical supplies around, but there's no actual increase in requirements. It's more that the economy and transport links are so messed up that nothing can get anywhere. Guy moved a few Dolmen Gates and I don't think that prejudice against magic healing will survive this conflict, but Atlantis simply doesn't have enough physicians to replace the international medicine trade.
And Purple rays aren't in wide enough circulation to be commonly available either... Bet that'll get a kick in the pants after this...

Major fighting has fallen off, and while no one's said anything to me directly I suspect that world leaders took Dr. Sivana's deal. Or maybe without the Queen ordering what may well have been distraction attacks the other Highborn are playing it safe. Or maybe without the Castle Revolving's time drive they're stuck whenever they are… At least until Dr. Sivana gets together enough suspendium to open a portal from this side.
Too many unknowns involved to predict anything clearly, ultimately. And because OL has dismissed it as his problem, we'll likely never know until he decides to look in on affairs.

The people I brought back were generally traumatised. Aside from facing their own deaths and witnessing a great many of their fellow captives go through the Sheeda's processing, most of them lost family to the rendering vats or to the attack that resulted in their capture. Some of their families were delighted to have them back, others horrified that we weren't able to recover more. That those few people were all that had survived.
Ah, yes, that expectation that 'You're the Justice League, you should have been able to save everybody, shouldn't you?' I suppose it's a wake-up call DC Earth needed. Since they largely ignored the previous one unless it directly affected them...

Batman can decide how to deal with Mr. Allen. It's not that I don't understand. I'm not even angry with him. But that's… Thing are going to change, now. With the League fighting an actual war and not just fighting crime. With League members killing. The ones who haven't are now in a clear minority versus those who have, a complete reverse of the situation pro bellum.

I guess this proves I was right. I'm glad I don't feel better about it.
Let's hope it doesn't result in a fracturing of the team. They've got enough trouble to deal with without that.

Incoming phone call from approved source.

Please not Truggs.
Heh, I have no doubt that if Truggs were in any position to try and gloat, he would call OL and do so..

Call originates at the Galaxy Broadcasting System headquarters.

Heh. Alright, put it through.
Oh, god, Batman's going to be even more pissed... The last thing he needs is OL talking to the press...

"Orange Lantern Illustres here. I'm free to talk, but I'm otherwise occupied."

"Hey! Alice Gilmore, GBS. Are you free to-? Live. Talk TV live. Ah, live, in a minute?"
She sounds worried, doesn't she? Bet she's the unlucky intern who pulled the short straw on making the call...

Despite the devastation before me, I can't help but smile a little.

"Were you told to make that point very clear, or are scare stories being passed around the office?"
Given the last time that happened, it got Dana Dearden fired... That sort of reaction is quite reasonable.

"Um, ah, both..?"

"Yes, I think I can manage that. And I did tell your superiors that firing Ms. Dearden was an overreaction."
Not that they would have shared that with anyone, I bet.

"I… But… No one's seen her months. Before the Sheeda. She did those interviews, then just vanished.. So no one really wants to go down that road."

Oh.
Ah, OL doesn't remember that little encounter, does he? Because time-fuckery.

"Well, I… Promise I won't make you disappear. How about that?"

"Okay! Just a sec!"

I… Seem to vaguely remember that she was… Alright? I-. I can't remember clearly my… Last conversation with her? If there was a problem, wouldn't someone have-.
AS moralrelativity says, this should be ringing bells in OL's head... A pity he can't really investigate it, though.

"Good evening, Orange Lantern!"

"Good morning, Ms. Grant. It's about two o'clock in the morning where I am."
Not that the time matters much, what with Ring-based physical adjustments...

"Can you tell me anything about the Justice League's recent fighting against the Sheeda?"

"I haven't kept track of recent Justice League releases, so I apologise if I'm repeating something. The Sheeda ruler, Queen Gloriana Tenebrae, was killed, and their command ship is crippled, in an attack by the Justice League. A.. small number of abductees were recovered, and have been returned to their places of origin."
So the League are keeping the whole Malvolio thing under their cowls, huh? Don't want to spread panic over the existence of a Green-light powered tyrant with a possible nark on for Earth.

"The League already confirmed that. Were you involved in the attack?"

"Yes. Well, if you already knew I suppose I should try and say something new. Has knowledge that Doctor Thaddeus Sivana has offered to annihilate all surviving Sheeda holdouts entered the public domain yet?"
And Batman, seeing this, just slumps in his chair, before bending over the counter of the Bat-computer and banging his head off the keyboard...

"… No. … Why? I thought he was.. completely evil."

"It is my opinion that he is a psychopath. However, he's more disinterested in other people's wellbeing than actively hostile to it. I am also of the opinion that he could carry out the process more swiftly and mercilessly than the Justice League. In case you're wondering, his price is a pardon for all his previous crimes as he wants retire from villainy."
No doubt Thaddeus Senior would take 'psychopath' as a compliment... And Batman just starts groaning 'Why? Why? Why do I allow anyone to talk to him?'

"Is that..? Something that can happen?"

"Retiring? Sure. It's not very common, but it does happen. Yellow Wasp retired uncaught and never committed any further offences." Unless kidnapping counts as 'ongoing'. "If you mean the pardon, most states have a mechanism for commuting sentences. I don't think any criminal has bargained in quite this way before, but there's a first time for everything."
The more impressive thing is that it worked. At least OL didn't mention that the Pardon had to be global, not just American. Just imagine the ideas some people would get... Like the Joker...

"How does he know enough about the Sheeda to do something like that?"

"He lived in their time period for years, then they tried to kill his family. He's also very very clever."
And if the public knows anything about Sivana, they should hopefully be aware that he does love his family, and what would happen if someone hurt one of them...

"He knew about the Sheeda coming here-. To our time, in advance?"

"A lot of people did. The Justice League knew, I knew, various people in governments received threat reports... We just didn't know exactly when; we thought we had a while or I wouldn't have been off-planet when they turned up. Then again, given the timing of Harrowings, they could have turned up a decade ago. Or fifty years ago. If that had happened, we wouldn't be having this conversation."
Or twenty years down the line... But the later they left it, the more likely Earth would hit back harder than they could withstand.

I sigh as I build a rainwater collection system into the sewers to improve flow.

"Despite everything, all in all… Earth is in a peaceful area of space. This is the first wide scale planetary attack we've had to deal with. Despite everyone that died, usually when the Sheeda Harrow a place they kill just about everyone. For an attack like this, on a planet as unprepared as we were… I'm afraid this is what a good result looks like. And if anyone wants to see a picture of a bad result, I'm willing to show them one."
And someone's finally said it to the public. Earth is damn lucky. Damn, damn lucky.

"What sorts of thing should the world learn from this attack?"

"We're blessed, really. Not one inhabited world in a thousand has access to magic. We produce genius inventors and technologists at a rate that's basically unheard of, build devices that are near-incomprehensible to civilisations far more advanced than ours. I've… Banged this drum before. But… We don't do anything with it. Things that could improves the lives of billions, don't. And I think… In my own mind, I look around and I think that none of this needed to happen."
In other words, get off your arses, sort your shit out, and make the world a better place...

"The magic detection network I proposed last year and that could have been built in the seventies, that could have detected Sheeda attacks as they appeared, got thrown up in a rush during the last month. Outside a handful of superheroes no one been to the moon in decades, Mars… Ever. If the Earth is destroyed then that's our civilisation dead. There are a still only a handful of magic users outside of Atlantis. And what so many people don't understand is that not using what you have doesn't stop other people using what they have. People like the Sheeda, for example. This is the price of… Blind introversion. This is.. the price of mediocrity. And there's no excuse, not when a species has the opportunities that we do."
...It would be so easy, if you'd just bother to look past your TV screen and think, Humanity.And yet because of forces like Boss Smiley, they'll just slump back down with their beer and pretzels, flip the channel over to the latest inane 'reality' show, and forget.

"There's no one bad actor I can point to, no one point of failure, just thousands of failures taken over the course of decades. A wilful embrace of 'getting by'. This is the price of mediocrity. And I really don't want anyone to ever have to pay it again."
On the upside, this plotline may just give OL the impetus to actually follow through with that goal. Humanity's had a close call, now it's up to people like him to keep them moving forwards...

Well, hopefully people will actually listen to what OL's telling them. :rolleyes: And maybe the Joker will suffer a spontaneous turnabout of character and regret everything he's done! ...I can see OL wanting to spend more time in space after this, just to get the bad taste of his goal of improving humanity being wilfully ignored...

...to replace the cramp and unsanitary hovels...
...to replace the cramped and unsanitary hovels...
But that's… Thing are going to change, now.
But that's… Things are going to change, now.
I… But… No one's seen her months.
I… But… No one's seen her in months.
 
Especially when one leaves tasks unfinished. I know you don't think it's your job, OL, but you really need to check up on things instead of trusting other people's common sense, something we know is in short supply around there...

Ever since Highfather and Darkseid locked up Common Sense Man, things have not been the same.

(a thing from Judiciary Misadventures on SB)

AS moralrelativity says, this should be ringing bells in OL's head... A pity he can't really investigate it, though.

As you said, time-fuckery.

So the League are keeping the whole Malvolio thing under their cowls, huh? Don't want to spread panic over the existence of a Green-light powered tyrant with a possible nark on for Earth.

Well it could just be Paul not thinking it was relevant.

And Batman, seeing this, just slumps in his chair, before bending over the counter of the Bat-computer and banging his head off the keyboard...

Or throwing things around while Alfred calls him a stupid boy, just like in the Abridged universe where Supes became president.

And Batman just starts groaning 'Why? Why? Why do I allow anyone to talk to him?'

I think he has an innate bias to hearing British people speaking, what with Alfred.

The more impressive thing is that it worked. At least OL didn't mention that the Pardon had to be global, not just American. Just imagine the ideas some people would get... Like the Joker...

The Joker doesn't really offer anything to people, unlike Sivana who is a genius scientist.

.I can see OL wanting to spend more time in space after this, just to get the bad taste of his goal of improving humanity being wilfully ignored...

Next episode is the war with the Reach, so a space adventure it is.
 
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'stopped, this years' add a comma
I disagree.
You did play a small part in her joining the Legion of Superheroes.
I don't believe that he remembers that.
'very, very' add a comma.
I disagree.
The Appelaxian invasion was a handful of aliens attacking the League, or the pre League.
Yes. Attacking the League. Not depopulating entire cities.
That would be better grammar, but that's not what he said.
Thank you, corrected.
What will the next episode be called?
Over Reaching.
"ante bellum", I strongly suspect, as it's a set phrase, and "pro bellum" isn't and would mean "for war".
Thank you, corrected.
Thank you, corrected.
maybe add a comma 'last year, and that could' or 'last year, that could'
I disagree.
...to replace the cramped and unsanitary hovels...
But that's… Things are going to change, now.
I… But… No one's seen her in months.
Thank you, corrected.
 
I don't believe that he remembers that.
I thought he remembered Time Trapper after the Krona adventure? I found these quotes:

"At the moment I only have your word that anything is even happening. And you're just some guy in a robe. I.. seem to remember that you sent me back to the present when Dox was planning to keep me in a cell. I'd be grateful, but I don't appreciate having my memories removed and I'm somewhat suspicious of what you're planning on asking me to do."

He holds out his hands, the… Time… Moment.. thing, floating upwards until it sits between the tuning fork's tines. Then it expands, spreading out, rippling and finally vanishing.

Oh.

Oh.

"We met before. Brainiac Five brought me to the future after that mess with the Eliminations Inc people. And then it…"

"Never happened." He nods. "A moment erased by the functioning of time, now returned by the function's alteration. It always existed, it was just…" He looks at his hands as they begin to fade. "Wasn't… Connected. And now… I can't thank you enough for making-."



For a moment I frown, trying to remember who I was talking t-. Time Trapper. Who was me, who now… Presumably is when he was supposed to be. Good for him, I suppose.

So it seems he should remember Dan Dearden.

Gee, I wonder what that could be about.
 
And, thus, no-one could relate to Comics, ever again!

(As far as comic authors were concerned, anyway)

*Points to hundreds of fantasy and science fiction comics, some of them who have millions of fans.

The problem is that Superhero comics are supposed to happen in present day Earth. So either you make Supers rare or recent or you have to use a stockpile of excuse cards to explain why the World has not changed due to supers.
 
On a scale of 1-10 how hard did Luthor laugh after hearing Pauls speech on Live TV?

Because that is everything he's wanted to say to the world for quite a while, even his supervillain mania/obsession with superman prevented him from getting the message out properly.

The fact that most people are now going to be highly receptive to that kind of thinking now must have him happier than he's been in a long long time.

Lex puts more effort into trying to kill someone who has proven himslef not a threat than he has everything else combined. He is a PERFECT example of the kind of person Paul is talking about, someone who could make a difference, could advance humanity, but instead spends billions on making Metallo and other supervillains more dangerous.

He is one of the worst offenders, because he has a multinational company and we never see any benefits come from it.

Ironically Bruce Wayne is in the same boat.
 
Yeah, I knew this was gonna happen. Wait and see mode it is.

Why do I allow anyone to talk to him?'
Because he has no way to stop OL from doing anything. OK isn't intimidated by him, and the power disparity is so high, that short of trying to steal OL's ring first, he can't muscle up on him either.

And even if he did steal OL's ring...that would slow Para-Paul down for what? Few seconds before he called it back? Not even Batman can lay a beat down that fast.
 
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This is what I've been waiting for!!!

I really hope we get more interview styled chapters, and that we can see the fallout around the world.

This should be a massive wakeup call for everyone! I expect mad scientists or people with super tech should be crawling out the woodwork to make sure they aren't considered "mediocre" for never doing anything to help the world.

Pretty much everyone on Earth would have lost someone to the Sheeda. This should have even bigger repercussions than the Earth splitting on Halloween.

Looking forward to a White House PoV, and a Justice League PoV, among others.
 
How does that relate to Dearden? I can't remember.

Not really. Anyone following the Orange Lantern's escapades knows that dead people sometimes don't stay dead.

I think the Legion of Superheroes abducted him because they thought he was somehow connected to time shenanigans, and somehow also got Dearden during it.

After that she apparently stayed with them and I'd now a superhero.

If you want to read and find out more then the episode where this happened was before the Mandate episode.
 
Yeah, I knew this was gonna happen. Wait and see mode it is.

Because he has no way to stop OL from doing anything. OK isn't intimidated by him, and the power disparity is so high, that short of trying to steal OL's ring first, he can't muscle up on him either.

And even if he did steal OL's ring...that would slow Para-Paul down for what? Few seconds before he called it back? Not even Batman can lay a beat down that fast.
I now want to see the Batman make "Orange Lantern Repellant" Spray. Something that would fit in well with Batman: The Brave and The Bold.

I love my Batty Sue.

Didn't Paul have perfect recall? And if he did, then why isn't this ringing alarm bells?

It was when he was at Vanishing Point. Time manipulation trumps his perfect recall.

Yeah, this should be raising all the alarm bells. I wonder if Boss Smiley is trying to suppress Paul while on Earth by making him miss warning signs.

On another note. I am trying to recall a nation in modern times that Truly collapsed. A few have failed, but none that I can recall that just stopped being.

How would the rest of the world react to places where there is no government? Colonization still has a bad reputation (as it should). But without the support systems of a government, many people will die in the chaos that will come. Some people will rise up to lead the survivors, but rival factions could create hostilities.

On smaller scales, it might be like rural Afghanistan/Pakistan/India where "officially" the government is in charge but lacks the manpower, will, or the resources to actually enforce the laws. But even then, the locals tend to 'humor' the governments until they go away (or occasionally things get violent).

I have a sudden urge to ask political science majors to have an in-depth discussion on the matter.
 
I now want to see the Batman make "Orange Lantern Repellant" Spray. Something that would fit in well with Batman: The Brave and The Bold.

I love my Batty Sue.
God I hate Batman. Like....I can't even put it into words. I hate the very concept of Batman. I hate "badass" normals BECAUSE of Batman. Like, I wanna read My Hero Acadamia fanfic, but there are too many uber powerful "Quirkless" Izuku fics. Annoys the hell out of me. Why are they all missing the point?! Why are they so determined to suck all the fun out of the setting?!

what are you talking about this is one of the best uplift stories i have read yet.
Didn't know what this was about, clicked the reveal.

That's Vaermina. He hates literally everything OL has ever done, or will do.
 

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