With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Bramble Thorn · Aug 23, 2021

Darko said:
I'm not so sure.

Alan's soul also became blue, so he may not be able to switch back.

Though it may be possible for Malvolio to give Alan some tips so he can make another blue ring and battery.

Alan's soul was made up of increasing ammounts of green over time.
The green did not hinder him taking up a blue ring.
Him having a soul now laced with green and blue should not hinder him taking up a green ring again.

And I agree, this sounds like a good opportunity for OL to engage in some horse training.
See if he can get some Green rings and lanterns from a ring maker. One for Alan, and a few for the OL core to use to train with and familiarize themselves with use of other lights. Offer some Orange rings so Malvolio could have the opportunity to familiarize himself and his new Corps with them...

Mr Zoat said:
And there's a reason why he calls himself Lord Malvolio of the Green Flame, not the green light.

EXPLAIN!

Zig · Aug 23, 2021

Bramble Thorn said:
Alan's soul was made up of increasing ammounts of green over time.
The green did not hinder him taking up a blue ring.
Him having a soul now laced with green and blue should not hinder him taking up a green ring again.

And I agree, this sounds like a good opportunity for OL to engage in some horse training.
See if he can get some Green rings and lanterns from a ring maker. One for Alan, and a few for the OL core to use to train with and familiarize themselves with use of other lights. Offer some Orange rings so Malvolio could have the opportunity to familiarize himself and his new Corps with them...

EXPLAIN!

Malvolio putting on an orange ring will either do nothing due to him being basically a Green Light elemental, or will go very very poorly for the universe.

Mr Zoat · Aug 23, 2021

10th September 2012
11:31 GMT

Ooooooooooh.

"I had wondered why it was so big."

The very big lantern that used to be in Lord Malvolio's space station is now sitting in a cargo bay in his flagship, glowing vibrant green.

"The Guardians of Oa keep their secrets well; e'en after their servants have fought across the galaxy for millennia, little knowledge of their true methods has reached the ears of the hoi polloi. Know you why they used lanterns as their sigil?"

"A lantern on a stick used to be the tool and sign of office of their law enforcement. Much as law enforcement agencies on Earth have a seal despite us not sealing official documents with wax any longer, so they decided to keep the general shape with the charging devices that their agents use."

"A curious act; I had not thought them capable of such sentimentality."

"How easy would it be for Christianity to change its primary emblem from the cross to anything else?" I shrug as I try to work out how large a problem this is likely to be. "And Christianity has barely been around for two thousand years. The Green Corps has used Lanterns for millions."

"They do it then not for their own benefit but for the benefit of those they claim to protect."

"It might be sentimentality. Or it could be that the current design works and so they don't see any purpose in changing it."

"By what I know of their staid natures, the latter is more likely."

"I don't know. Appa Ali Apsa seemed like he had a little more life in him."

"You know their names?"

"I've met them all briefly. Their names aren't secret, they just don't value them, or value individuality. And they've all known each other for so long that they don't need to use them in conversation with each other. Controller Hinon thinks it's a stupid affectation, so it might be just the younger ones who are weird about names."

I take a closer look at the giant lantern, giving it a scan for good measure.

"What is it for? I assumed that you got a personal lantern from… Ah…"

"Mine natural father."

"I… Hadn't realised that he was your father."

"I came home to find mine mother being assailed by what I perceived to be a demon. T'was only after I ran him through that I learned truth."

"Ah, 'assailed'?"

"In congress."

Ah.

I mean, it's never been a problem for me, but I imagine that maintaining the focus required for an environmental shield while engaged in sexual relations isn't that easy for a Green Lantern.

"I know that killing a Green Lantern doesn't disqualify a person from getting the ring after them, but I'm a little surprised that you were able to keep it."

"I thought it a talisman of his vile magics, that I risked all the fiends of Hell descending upon Manchester should my will fail e'en for a moment."

"They didn't… Try communicating?"

"I thought them the fiend's diabolic masters, and told them such. The ring fought me, but I fought for all the souls of the men of Christendom."

"And then?"

"It fell silent, and resisted me not. Later, Priest visited mine abode and explained affairs at a greater length."

"The AI." I nod. "They fried the AI, like they did for Yalan Gur."

"You refer to the ring's vocal spirit?"

"I don't think it's a spirit, though I…"

I mean, the AI can't be built into the physical structure of the ring, it has to be a stable light structure… Doesn't it? That… Would make it sort of a spirit. I wonder if binding spells would work to shut down a ring's AI? Have to test that at some point.

"Yes. Which means that you wouldn't have had access to its database."

"Indeed I did not. Priest's teaching showed me how to harness the light of will well enough, but the Guardians barred me from their order."

"So what's this for?"

"If I cannot join their Corps, I will simply make mine own. My imprisonment gave me much time to contemplate mine own power, and to build this."

I'm forced to compare this scaled-up personal lantern to my own work.

Well.

He had four hundred years.

"And how are you doing for rings?"

"A trying task. E'en now, something of their nature defeats me."

"I've got to be honest here: I've been offloading a lot of the calculations regarding my more complex constructs onto my ring's AI."

"Can mine be repaired, do you know?"

"It's probably-." Was Alan's repaired by his new personal lantern, or was it a completely fresh installation? "I would guess so, but I wouldn't know how to do it. Unless you felt like changing to orange?"

"You have your colour, while I have mine."

"Though actually, this could be a useful training exercise. Would you mind if I brought my students in to have a look? We could brainstorm techniques together."

"You feel no hesitancy in conspiring against the Guardians?"

"Well… The Guardians have done a good job for millions of years. But they're hardly faultless, and… Ultimately, they're not the boss of me. I'd like to improve my own abilities and those of my students, and… Your situation could be one that my friend Alan is going to end up in eventually. Unlike the Guardians I don't have a particular problem with you ruling a Sector… I'm not signing up to make you King of the Galaxy or anything, but I see no reason not to cooperate at the moment."

"Well said. I do not object to the presence of your students. Indeed, I am curious to meet more Lanterns than those I have encountered to date."

"Rightoh, I'll call them. Illustres to Lantern Xor. Are you finished?"

hance1986 · Aug 23, 2021

Mr Zoat said:
I mean, the SI can't be build into the physical structure of the ring,

' AI can't be built '

Mr Zoat · Aug 23, 2021

hance1986 said:
' AI can't be built '

Thank you, corrected.

I mean, it's still true as written...

Darko · Aug 23, 2021

Mr Zoat said:
Ooooooooooh.

"I had wondered why it was so big."

Phrasing!

Mr Zoat said:
They do it then not for their own benefit but for the benefit of those they claim to protect."

Gotta keep brand recognition.

Mr Zoat said:
By what I know of their staid natures, the latter is more likely."

"I don't know. Appa Ali Apsa seemed like he had a little more life in him."

Don't forget Ganthlet.

Or they both at least pull off a convincing act, like Hinon.

Mr Zoat said:
"I've met them all briefly. Their names aren't secret, they just don't value them, or value individuality. And they've all known each other for so long that they don't need to use them in conversation with each other. Controller Hinon thinks it's a stupid affectation, so it might be just the younger ones who are weird about names."

It's possible she'll also stop valuing it in time.

Remember that while biologically and chronologically she may be the same age as them, she's also spent the last few billion years in a coma, so she may still have some mental development to go through.

The younger ones may just be trying to emulate their seniors.

Mr Zoat said:
"I came home to find mine mother being assailed by what I perceived to be a demon. T'was only after I ran him through that I learned truth."

"Ah, 'assailed'?"

"In congress."

Ah.

Well, that's very, very awkward.

Mr Zoat said:
I mean, it's never been a problem for me, but I imagine that maintaining the focus required for an environmental shield while engaged in sexual relations isn't that easy for a Green Lantern.

Where there's a will there's a way.

Mr Zoat said:
and explains affairs at a greater length."

'explained'

Mr Zoat said:
can't be build into the physical structure

'built'

Mr Zoat said:
I wonder if binding spells would work to shut down a ring's AI? Have to test that at some point.

Careful that you don't make Power Ring Skynet.

Mr Zoat said:
you felt like changing to orange?"

"You have your colour, while I have mine."

Also it may not work.

At least blue and green are compatible, but orange and green...

Mr Zoat said:
Guardians have gone a good job for

'done a good'

Mr Zoat said:
make you King of the Galaxy of anythi

'Galaxy or'

Doccer · Aug 23, 2021

Mr Zoat said:
Well… The Guardians have gone a good job for millions of years. But they're hardly faultless, and…

done

Mr Zoat · Aug 23, 2021

Darko said:
'explained'
'built'
'done a good'
'Galaxy or'

Thank you, corrected.

Mr Zoat · Aug 23, 2021

Bramble Thorn said:
EXPLAIN!

If the Guardians remote fry your AI, your environmental shield gets a flame effect.

Chojin Patriarch · Aug 23, 2021

Mr Zoat said:
10th September 2012
11:31 GMT

Ooooooooooh.

"I had wondered why it was so big."

...Oh, good lord. You really do love starting off with such entertainingly suggestive lines. Still, I doubt they're talking about Malvolio's physique. So, he's made a Central Power Battery based of his own lantern...

The very big lantern that used to be in Lord Malvolio's space station is now sitting in a cargo bay in his flagship, glowing vibrant green.

"The Guardians of Oa keep their secrets well; e'en after their servants have fought across the galaxy for millennia, little knowledge of their true methods has reached the ears of the hoi polloi. Know you why they used lanterns as their sigil?"

To be fair, the Green Lantern insignia is a fairly simple iconographic design: A ring with bars above and below (and is the shape the Green Light flows through naturally...) Easy to customise for personal uniforms... Just look at Kyle Rayner's evolving outfits. Just don't mention his dog-collar period...

"A lantern on a stick used to be the tool and sign of office of their law enforcement. Much as law enforcement agencies on Earth have a seal despite us not sealing official documents with wax any longer, so they decided to keep the general shape with the charging devices that their agents use."

"A curious act; I had not thought them capable of such sentimentality."

And I find myself picturing it looking like the 'Tangent' Green Lantern. Though I suspect a few more martially-inclined Lanterns converted into something more like a large mace... They could literally 'lamp' someone.

"How easy would it be for Christianity to change its primary emblem from the cross to anything else?" I shrug as I try to work out how large a problem this is likely to be. "And Christianity has barely been around for two thousand years. The Green Corps has used Lanterns for millions."

"They do it then not for their own benefit but for the benefit of those they claim to protect."

Image is everything, even when it comes to protecting the galaxy. Though knowing the Guardians, it's likely just...

"It might be sentimentality. Or it could be that the current design works and so they don't see any purpose in changing it."

"By what I know of their staid natures, the latter is more likely."

...Ideological inertia. They don't plan to change it because it's not worth the effort of redoing 7200+ agents' equipment... Never mind the redecorating they'd need to employ on Oa.

"I don't know. Appa Ali Apsa seemed like he had a little more life in him."

"You know their names?"

Well, some. It's not like every Guardian who appeared in the comics was always named. Though I don't see OL sharing the exact nature of his extra-universal origins with Malvolio anytime soon.

"I've met them all briefly. Their names aren't secret, they just don't value them, or value individuality. And they've all known each other for so long that they don't need to use them in conversation with each other. Controller Hinon thinks it's a stupid affectation, so it might be just the younger ones who are weird about names."

I take a closer look at the giant lantern, giving it a scan for good measure.

In other words, the namelessness thing is a teenage fad.

I like that idea, it's so monumentally silly.

"What is it for? I assumed that you got a personal lantern from… Ah…"

"Mine natural father."

Ah. I take it he didn't know his biological father growing up. That would have made his life a lot harder back then.

"I… Hadn't realised that he was your father."

"I came home to find mine mother being assailed by what I perceived to be a demon. T'was only after I ran him through that I learned truth."

...Now, when you say 'assailing', is it like accidentally walking on on your parents...

"Ah, 'assailed'?"

"In congress."

...Right! That'd be quite the shock. Especially if his father wasn't one of those many extremely human-like species.

Ah.

I mean, it's never been a problem for me, but I imagine that maintaining the focus required for an environmental shield while engaged in sexual relations isn't that easy for a Green Lantern.

I mean, you have Enlightenment on your side. I would not be surprised to find Guy can manage it too, but I would hope he'd leave the ring off for fun times with Tora.

"I know that killing a Green Lantern doesn't disqualify a person from getting the ring after them, but I'm a little surprised that you were able to keep it."

"I thought it a talisman of his vile magics, that I risked all the fiends of Hell descending upon Manchester should my will fail e'en for a moment."

...And yet you still put it on and kept it on... You were a self-centred kid, weren't you?

"They didn't… Try communicating?"

"I thought them the fiend's diabolic masters, and told them such. The ring fought me, but I fought for all the souls of the men of Christendom."

Or to put it another way: The Ring requested he report to OA for basic training, he told it to sod off...

"And then?"

"It fell silent, and resisted me not. Later, Priest visited mine abode and explains affairs at a greater length."

...And the Guardians killed the onboard software. Because why bother just ordering the ring to return?

"The AI." I nod. "They fried the AI, like they did for Yalan Gur."

"You refer to the ring's vocal spirit?"

Eh, Ring AI isn't really smart enough to be self-aware in general. It's more like a good VI, with most apparently independent functions merely being effective subroutines.

"I don't think it's a spirit, though I…"

I mean, the AI can't be build into the physical structure of the ring, it has to be a stable light structure… Doesn't it? That… Would make it sort of a spirit. I wonder if binding spells would work to shut down a ring's AI? Have to test that at some point.

Preferably not with your own gear, I would hope. Nor outside of a safe lab. I wonder, would Construct-Lantern Rings be different to Controller-made Rings in that sense...

"Yes. Which means that you wouldn't have had access to its database."

"Indeed I did not. Priest's teaching showed me how to harness the light of will well enough, but the Guardians barred me from their order."

I guess Priest decided on his own to train the rookie ring-wielder. I doubt the Guardians would have ordered it, nor been happy about it afterwards...

"So what's this for?"

"If I cannot join their Corps, I will simply make mine own. My imprisonment gave me much time to contemplate mine own power, and to build this."

Hm... A force of what would effectively be Sherrifs, each assigned to their own world, perhaps? It would definitely be a bit more reliable than the Guardians' two Lanterns per sector, managing dozens of worlds (if not hundreds.)

I'm forced to compare this scaled-up personal lantern to my own work.

Well.

He had four hundred years.

Indeed. I'm sure you'll get the hang of it with that long to work at it.

"And how are you doing for rings?"

"A trying task. E'en now, something of their nature defeats me."

Ah. Well, nobody's perfect. I bet he's been thinking of them as magic artefacts, not simply advanced technology...

"I've got to be honest here; I've been offloading a lot of the calculations regarding my more complex constructs onto my ring's AI."

"Can mine me repaired, do you know?"

I dunno, Kalmin doesn't really like to repeat himself... But on the other hand, creating a Ring VI for a non-Guardian Green Ring... That would be an entertaining challenge for him, or his students.

"It's probably-." Was Alan's repaired by his new personal lantern, or was it a completely fresh installation? "I would guess so, but I wouldn't know how to do it. Unless you felt like changing to orange?"

"You have your colour, while I have mine."

Indeed. I figure any emotion in you is so admixed with Will that it's like being Enlightened...

"Though actually, this could be a useful training exercise. Would you mind if I brought my students in to have a look? We could brainstorm techniques together."

"You feel no hesitancy in conspiring against the Guardians?"

Pff, they don't like him much as it is. You think he's concerned about them liking him any less?

"Well… The Guardians have gone a good job for millions of years. But they're hardly faultless, and… Ultimately, they're not the boss of me. I'd like to improve my own abilities and those of my students, and… Your situation could be one that my friend Alan is going to end up in eventually. Unlike the Guardians I don't have a particular problem with you ruling a Sector… I'm not signing up to make you King of the Galaxy of anything, but I see no reason not to cooperate at the moment."

Admittedly, if he becomes a problem down the line, things could get interesting.

"Well said. I do not object to the presence of your students. Indeed, I am curious to meet more Lanterns than those I have encountered to date."

"Rightoh, I'll call them. Illustres to Lantern Xor. Are you finished?"

Well, this will be amusing for all involved. Dul, Onik and Xor are very different people... I wonder what Malvolio will make of such diverse characters wielding the same light?

Well, the meeting should be quite the show. Just seeing the reactions of each of the Lanterns will be amusing. Especially Onik. It'll be curious to see what he makes of someone as... Steeped... in the Green Light as Malvolio is, and the fact he killed his own Lantern father to gain that power...

Mr Zoat said:
If the Guardians remote fry your AI, your environmental shield gets a flame effect.

...Which handily explains the appearance of those people in the comics who could use the Spectrum without a ring... Alan and Jade Scott, for example.

Nice.

timeForced · Aug 23, 2021

I'm pretty sure Xor and Malvolio are going to hit it off like Peanut Butter and Chocolate. Like goddamn, always honor all the time guy and old school Christian Lord? Let's hope they don't get a crusade going.

Darko · Aug 23, 2021

Chojin Patriarch said:
In other words, the namelessness thing is a teenage fad. I like that idea, it's so monumentally silly.

The older ones apparently don't care for their names all that much, but the teenagers took it further and lack them.

Chojin Patriarch said:
Right! That'd be quite the shock. Especially if his father wasn't one of those many extremely human-like species.

He was apparently a very big humamoid.

Chojin Patriarch said:
And the Guardians killed the onboard software. Because why bother just ordering the ring to return?

It may be because Malvolio could stop it from leaving.

Chojin Patriarch said:
Ah. Well, nobody's perfect. I bet he's been thinking of them as magic artefacts, not simply advanced technology...

To be fair, they're kinda both.

NightmareWarden · Aug 23, 2021

The potential here! The atmosphere of (somewhat vivisected) hope! Ah, this reminds me of fanfics that have multiple Jedi Orders running around (genuine ones, not Sith-guided plots). Or the rare TV episode which has law enforcement from 2+ countries cooperating to capture a target. Compatible, but distinct philosophies make the man wise and mankind stable.

Good luck to you, Malvolio. Maybe your ring AI will take the form of a construct-parrot or a construct-raven when speaking to appease any pre-industrial Greens you recruit.

Vaermina · Aug 23, 2021

Mr Zoat said:
"I've got to be honest here; I've been offloading a lot of the calculations regarding my more complex constructs onto my ring's AI."

Vindication at last!

AmericanNumbers · Aug 23, 2021

So functionally i assume Marvollo build a light fountain like the one that drove Larfreeze mad but since it's Green not orange it not as big of an issue.

NightmareWarden · Aug 23, 2021

AmericanNumbers said:
So functionally i assume Marvollo build a light fountain like the one that drove Larfreeze mad but since it's Green not orange it not as big of an issue.

Paul should be able to detect that with a scan, given that his ring AI was able to modify Alan's lantern on day one AND it has plenty of Controller data on Lanterns in it.

Mr Zoat · Aug 23, 2021

Chojin Patriarch said:
...Oh, good lord. You really do love starting off with such entertainingly suggestive lines. Still, I doubt they're talking about Malvolio's physique.

I mean... He has a huge penis too...

Ah. I take it he didn't know his biological father growing up. That would have made his life a lot harder back then.

He might have previously thought that his father was his mother's husband.

...And yet you still put it on and kept it on... You were a self-centred kid, weren't you?

No, he put it on to contain it in the belief that more devils would escape if it was unattended.

Bud-E · Aug 23, 2021

Mr Zoat said:
I mean... He has a huge penis too...

Prove it!

Handlewithcare · Aug 23, 2021

Vaermina said:
Vindication at last!

I mean, what did you expect? That he did the math for a singularity gun in his head?

NightmareWarden said:
Paul should be able to detect that with a scan, given that his ring AI was able to modify Alan's lantern on day one AND it has plenty of Controller data on Lanterns in it.

I think assimilating a Lantern is a lot easier than analysing complex meta-physics. He basically just pushed orange light into it.

Mr Zoat · Aug 23, 2021

Handlewithcare said:
I mean, what did you expect? That he did the math for a singularity gun in his head?

I don't believe that Lord Malvolio has seen him do that.

Impartial Panic · Aug 23, 2021

timeForced said:
I'm pretty sure Xor and Malvolio are going to hit it off like Peanut Butter and Chocolate. Like goddamn, always honor all the time guy and old school Christian Lord? Let's hope they don't get a crusade going.

Well if they do the Reach got stuck with the role of the Saracens.

Bud-E said:
Prove it!

Fine if you really want it that badly then here's your Dick pic

Darko · Aug 23, 2021

Impartial Panic said:
Fine if you really want it that badly then here's your Dick pic

I remember these little fics CloakedSparrow would write in Ao3 focusing on the Bat Family.

One of them had Dick sending pictures of himself to the others and calling them Dick Picks, and unfortunately one of them had him shirtless and somebidy thought something nefarious was going on.

Fortunately it was resolved and he stopped.

Bud-E · Aug 23, 2021

Impartial Panic said:
Fine if you really want it that badly then here's your Dick pic

Nice

rkyeun · Aug 23, 2021

Handlewithcare said:
I mean, what did you expect? That he did the math for a singularity gun in his head?

You had to pick the literal easiest one to use as an example.

Singularity Gun

÷0

Michael Vonica · Aug 23, 2021

Calculus is not that easy.

Vaermina · Aug 23, 2021

Handlewithcare said:
I mean, what did you expect? That he did the math for a singularity gun in his head?

No, I didn't, but a lot of people in this thread did and were very adamant about arguing it.

lefthandturnsignal · Aug 23, 2021

Michael Vonica said:
Calculus is not that easy.

rkyeun said:
You had to pick the literal easiest one to use as an example.

Singularity Gun

÷0

The answer is infinity, or well, sorta kinda. Infinities and zeros are weird in math. And singularities tend to be even weirder in real world physics. They get downright bizarre in comic book physics.

Mr Zoat · Aug 24, 2021

10th September 2012
11:44 GMT

"Lord Malvolio, permit me to introduce Lantern Xor, Lantern Dul and Lantern Onik."

Despite Malvolio's size, Xor is still quite a bit larger than him. Neither of them seem particularly concerned about their physical size; Malvolio is perfectly confident that his will and ring-power would be sufficient in any fight and Xor is perfectly used to being around smaller people. Dul on the other hand is clearly more interested in the giant personal lantern while Onik can't decide what he's more interested in.

"I greet you. I am Lord Malvolio of the Green Flame, sovereign lord of the region of space you know as Sector Sixteen Thirty Four and the ruler of its people."

Dul's eyes narrow slightly. "I didn't think that Green Lanterns were allowed to rule entire Sectors."

"I am not beholden to the Guardians of Oa. Nay, indeed, their agents are dispatched to act against me and dispute my will and rightful rule."

Ah…

"You're not a part of the Green Lantern Corps."

"Indeed I am not."

"When you say 'act against me', do you mean that Green Lanterns are attacking your empire right now?"

"No, worry not. Priest confronted me ere I sojourned from mine place of imprisonment, but I dispatched him swiftly."

"'Dispatched' as in dead, or..?"

"He lives, disarmed and isolated. The love I bore him as mine tutor is such that e'en now, slaying him would not sit well with me. As for the rest, they have scouted mine domains and been instructed to leave by mine fleets. Matters have not yet escalated."

"But you think that they will?"

"I would strive for a position of power whether they do or not."

"Fair enough. Any other questions for our host?"

"Are you recruiting?"

Lantern Dul barely waited for me to finish talking before asking the question. I frown, my eyes darting to Malvolio's hands. No second ring, but there's no reason why it wouldn't be somewhere else on his person. I can't imagine that he'd have sent it back to Oa, though I suppose that it's not beyond the realm of possibility that he let it go under the assumption that it would select someone in the Sector who was already loyal to him.

"I will anoint those amongst my men whom I judge capable and worthy."

"So don't bother posting advertisements in the Thanagarian Empire because they're never going to get it."

"No, but Thanagar would be happy to trade for the services of Lanterns."

"And I may treat with ambassadors and I may in the fullness of time make such strategic alliances as are convenient to me. But such is not our purpose here."

"It's no secret that I can make personal lanterns. Lord Malvolio-" I gesture to his… I'm not sure what it qualifies as. Secondary Green Central Power Battery? Coterie Lantern? "-has rather surpassed my efforts to date, and neither of us have successfully made a ring. Since these are both learnable skills, that's what we'll be studying today."

"The creation of this Great Lantern took many weeks of dedicated effort. I am curious to observe your efforts."

I doff my armour and sit cross-legged on the floor, my eyes nearly closed but my empathic vision turned up all the way. Malvolio's presence is near-blinding, but I've gotten a better feel for the others during our time here and can easily… See where their desires integrate with mine.

I also note that Lantern Xor has sat down and is studying me as carefully as he can. Yes, he's probably closest to being able to understand this.

"Almost every being has within them some contact with each of the lights. The network of strands which build up their nature, their desires. To make a lantern you must first learn to perceive them not as a series of strands but as the interface, the point at which the raw stuff of desire diffuses one way and the specificality of desire diffuses the other."

I don't look at anyone else. I'm simply going to use my own, and my conscious connection to the Honden as what I manifest. I hold out my hands, the faint wire frame outline of a lantern appearing and the point already 'tied' to the orange light glowing just a little brighter. The point just above the core is at once a solid position in the lantern's structure and my desire to avoid nullity. A part of the handle my desire for camaraderie. And on and on until the structure is essentially solid, shimmering as not completely 'real', but still there in a way a normal construct is not.

I managed that last time, though far more haphazardly than I'm doing now. But the bit I completely messed up is the bit that comes next: using the structure I've built to link the structure to the light itself, to the Honden itself.

From the incredibly specific to the non-specific. From me to all. And back again. The complexity of the individual and the vastness of the Honden.

It's shining, shimmering, being at once in the material universe and outside it as the points marked by my manifested desires alter the laws of reality just enough to make that possible. I take a few moments to look at it as it becomes self-sustaining and then fade back into the room.

Ring, time?

10th September 2012
15:29 GMT

Hm. Reasonable.

Xor's eyes are glowing while Onik is staring with an expression which… That's religious ecstasy, isn't it? Dul is ignoring it in favour of watching Lord Malvolio. I can't tell what he's thinking, but I do get a small respectful nod as I emerge more fully from my trance.

The personal lantern… Looks good. Better than my first effort, at least. I take my current personal lantern out of subspace and set them side by side on the deck.

Ring, how did I do?

No faults detected.

Ah. Well, Hinon's the expert and I'll have to have her give it a once-over, but I think I can be reasonably pleased with that.

Xor blinks, shaking his head.

"Illustres, I could not understand what you did."

"Lantern Dul?"

"My ring could see what you were doing with the construct power, but I couldn't get anything else."

"I see. Lantern Onik?"

"You made a personal lantern."

"Y-es, that-."

"You made a personal lantern you made a personal lantern you made a…"

"Lord Malvolio?"

"For how long have you wielded a ring?"

"A little over two years."

"I required decades of instruction afore I could do so much."

"Bonding with the Ophidian gave me perspective that most mortals lack. So for the rest of you, here's what I did."

Ngamer11 · Aug 24, 2021

Onik seems like he's about to faint from the religions implications of Paul's act. Was he not a member of the OLC the last time Paul did this?

Mr Zoat said:
It's shining, shimmering, being at once in the material universe and outside it as the points marked by my manifested desires alter the laws of reality just enough to make that possible. I take a few moments to look oat it as it becomes self-sustaining and then fade back into the room.

That should say 'at'.

Darko · Aug 24, 2021

Mr Zoat said:
Onik can't decide what he's more interested in.

Dude is probably shocked to be sitting next to someone most of his people would consider a god and is interested in what his teacher has to say.

Mr Zoat said:
I doff my armour and sit cross-legged

'I don my armour'

Mr Zoat said:
that Lantern Xor as sat down and

'as he sits'

Mr Zoat said:
I also note that Lantern Xor as sat down and is studying me as carefully as he can. Yes, he's probably closest to be able to understand this.

He is your best student.

Mr Zoat said:
Almost every being has within them some contact with each of the lights

Though some lack it.

Like Canis and Sally Sonic.

Mr Zoat said:
. A part of the handle my desire for camarade

'of my desire'

Mr Zoat said:
Ring, time?

10th September 2012
15:29 GMT

Hm. Reasonable.

You spent nearly four hours in there.

Mr Zoat said:
see. Lantern Onik?"

"You made a personal lantern."

"Y-es, that-."

"You made a personal lantern you made a personal lantern you made a…"

Well this isn't worrying at all.

No siree.

With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

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Getting some practice in, huh?

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Not too sore, are you?

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I trust you know where the happy button is?

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Stand up so I can push you down!

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Know what you're doing yet?

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Making the rounds.

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