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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Let me specify then. The only Blue Lantern Paul we know of so far.

On another note, where did you get the idea of each regular Earth having its own Antimatter counterpart? IIRC the original Antimatter Universe in the comics was way bigger than a regular universe because it served as the counterpart for all universes.
Ignorance, mostly. I mean, there are plenty of matter universes. Why wouldn't there be plenty of anti-matter universes?
 
"We don't… Remember. We remember… Everything… Fading. But it did not concern us. Concern-. Why do you call it Parallax?"

"It once demonstrated the ability to use multiple power rings simultaneously."

"That's 'parallel'."

"I'm sorry?"

"Using multiple power rings. That's 'in parallel', like bulbs in a high school science class circuit. Parallax means 'the apparent displacement or the difference in apparent direction of an object as seen from two different points not on a straight line with the object'."

That kinda bugs me too...but it's rule of cool names....I mean the Green Entity isn't a Charge Particle Giant Space Whale after all.

But if you want to try and shoehorn a reason for it:

Etymology

From Middle French parallaxe, from Ancient Greek παράλλαξις (parállaxis, "alteration") from παραλλάσσω (parallássō, "to cause to alternate") from ἀλλάσσω (allássō, "to alter") from ἄλλος (állos, "other").

Hal was significantly Altered, in outlook, personality and power when he snapped/was possessed.

Edit: Now calling it Para-Lux would make sense, as it is a Parasite of Light
 
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That kinda bugs me too...but it's rule of cool names....I mean the Green Entity isn't a Charge Particle Giant Space Whale after all.

But if you want to try and shoehorn a reason for it:

Etymology

From Middle French parallaxe, from Ancient Greek παράλλαξις (parállaxis, "alteration") from παραλλάσσω (parallássō, "to cause to alternate") from ἀλλάσσω (allássō, "to alter") from ἄλλος (állos, "other").

Hal was significantly Altered, in outlook, personality and power when he snapped/was possessed.

Mayhaps Parallax actually came from some obscure alien language and is a false cognate?
 
The meaning of the word is why he's called Parallax.

Hal had a change in perspective, this is the reason he actually gave in the comics from memory- Whether the Guardians are worth following. Whether heroism means drawing within the lines or doing whatever it takes. A metaphorical "the difference in apparent direction of an object as seen from two different points not on a straight line with the object."

The author also had a second reason not stated in character by Hal- What are the green lanterns? Points of light in space, like stars. He grew distant from them. So a nod to the meaning on the astronomical level.
 
Now I'm wondering if Antimatter Vega has the plucky underdog resistance the Citadel fighting the Dread Tamaranean Imperium.
That's a fun idea, the Noble Citadelian Patriarch sacrifices himself through his clones over and over again in the name of justice, for why should others suffer when he can, in fact, take on the entire burden all by himself, and himself, and himself, and...
 
Fear Ourself (part 11)
21st January 2013
17:49 GMT


"How did this happen?"

I look down at the smouldering world beneath me. Sereaven is… Cooked. Barring Controller involvement, the world is now uninhabitable.

"A reserve fleet, Illustres." The senior surviving L.E.G.I.O.N. officer pulls his forelegs into his body in a show of shame and guilt. "With a hunting pack of Scarab Warriors. We were outgunned, and the Lanterns were overwhelmed. I only survived because I was on patrol on the opposite side of the system."

"But how did they get close enough-?"

"A boom tube."

Oh dear.

"Their own, or did Grayven open it for them?"

"I did not see. We were at the wrong angle, and our sensors-."

"It's fine."

Or, rather, it's not. Looks like the Reach have decided that now is the time to take this seriously. And with Grayven not running interference and forcing them to keep a lot of their navy to their inner systems…

"Link up with the closest L.E.G.I.O.N. fleet and request new orders. There's no reason to stay here when there's nothing to hold. Or rescue."

"Yes, Illustres."

I find myself… Looking at exactly where the egg bunker for the north western continent was. The place I-.

My ring blinks, though there is no attempt at conversation as a set of coordinates appear in my consciousness. A heartbeat and I'm there, already too late as Reach dreadnoughts obliterate the L.E.G.I.O.N. capital ships with-.

A purple beam lashes out from a Reach battleship, striking a Lantern who had been dogfighting with three Scarab Warriors and… Completely annihilating them. They're a small and agile target, how did it-?

That Scarab, they're carrying a target designator. They aim it and fire and the battleship weapon fires where it's told to. The weapon is new, and appears to work like a phaser array: able to fire in any direction without build-up.

Good design.

Thaumically dead system, so there's no point in letting Colin out.

Construct railguns and cold guns appear around me, crumbler rounds blasting out and cold beams strobing across the intervening space. The closest battleship shudders as my attack hits home-.

BOOM!

A boom tube opens directly behind it, my shots being intercepted and…

Wait.

That's… Not how boom tubes w-.

"Illustres!" A Lantern I don't immediately recognise flies up to me. "We're getting slaughtered and they've broken through! What do we do?!"

"Watch my back as I remove these ships."

And don't think I didn't notice that. My last clear memory was Parallax 'returning to his home planet' after identifying that I was afraid of failing to live up to my obligations. A being of Parallax's power should be more than capable of influencing my mind, and-. I didn't step out. I just appeared at my new location, because Parallax can't cope with the Honden of Avarice.

Looks like realising that doesn't get me out. I'm a little worried about what I'm actually doing while this is going on, but… My guess is that I'm still back on that planet and this is a pure illusion. Parallax likes fear, not other forms of emotional damage.

So I'll go along with it, because completely accurate images of my friends, allies and dependents dying en masse aren't things I particularly want to see because Parallax was completely right about that. I fly towards the Reach fleet, construct shield ahead of me and guns still firing. I doubt that anything here can actually kill me, but I imagine that a low level fear of being powerless to affect the universe would allow them to score crippling hits. I need to watch out for-.

I spot a tiny shift in stellar debris clouds and I roll and fire. A purple energy beam punches through where I was a moment ago just as the stealthy Scarab Warrior freezes and then shatters.

Okay, so why was I allowed to-?

I turn my head aside as the remains of the Lantern who requested my direction drifts away, the beam having punched through their defences and vaporised most of their lower body along with their ring hand, leaving their fear-chilled face staring at me.

Playing off my sense of responsibility, or trying to personalise the tragedy unfolding in front of me? Irrelevant. Other than giving Parallax the idea that I'm a psychopath, I can't have an emotional response to something I know perfectly well isn't happening.

Realising hasn't freed me. What might? Overcoming my own fear, maybe. But I think it would require enlightenment-type overcoming. And honestly I don't think stopping being at least a bit afraid of making a mess of things would be a good idea. Quite aside from the fact that I'd end up with a tendency to look down on the burning remains of a world I failed to save and shrug 'Oh well, plenty of other worlds', I know that other people started seeing me as a little inhuman after I attained avarice enlightenment. Manage a second form and I'll probably be unrecognisable.

Of course, if Parallax can't make me think that I've stepped out, that should work.

I finally get an angle to another battleship and open fire, breaking its shield and shutting down its main drive system. No boom tube defence, so perhaps Parallax is trying to keep it plausible. I look to the fore, to see where the Reach Fleet is actually going-. Tillettit, because Parallax is trying to show me the death of worlds in which I have an emotional investment.

Enough of this.

We step out, the comforting structures of the Honden of Avarice surrounding us at once. A little disconcerting as these desires belong to a people long since dead, but their place here is as if they were still alive. We take a moment to try to feel the desires of the Weaponer, but… There is nothing immediately obvious as belonging to her. With a better lead it should be possible to find a thread to follow, but in the presence of so much yellow light…

Mildly frustrating, but-. Jade! We


step back in, the yellow-washed mountainside of the village appearing in my visual field for a moment before the image of a burning world reasserts itself.

"Clarissi to Illustres. Where were you?!"

I wave the image away.

"I know this isn't real. You're not going to make me afraid like this."

We step out again, but just for a moment before

reappearing on the mountainside.

"You see? We can't play with each other. You can't make me afraid with illusions."

Harrolds is glowering at me, a construct… A giant construct pseudo insectoid standing behind him. Parallax's default form.

"No. We don't suppose that we can."

He glows brilliantly for a moment-

Anti-matter transition-

-and then vanishes.

-detected.
 
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"You see? We can't play with each other. You can't make me afraid with illusions."

Harrolds is glowering at me, a construct… A giant construct pseudo insectoid standing behind him. Parallax's default form.

"No. We don't suppose that we can."

He glows brilliantly for a moment-

Anti-matter transition-

-and then vanishes.

-detected.
So, since LePaul can't follow him with the Greedport the question begs how many Nemo planets Parallax will destroy before LePaul is able to catch up.

And given this whole thing is LePaul's fault, it better be at least one.
 
21st January 2013
17:49 GMT


"How did this happen?"

I look down at the smouldering world beneath me. Sereaven is… Cooked. Baring Controller involvement, the world is now uninhabitable.
...That's rather sudden. Suspiciously sudden, in fact. The timestamp suggests it's been over a day, yet he didn't cover any of the intervening time in his log? No comforting Jade after her encounter with Fear itself? :cool: No way is this real.

"A reserve fleet, Illustres." The senior surviving L.E.G.I.O.N. officer pulls his forelegs into his body in a show to shame and guilt. "With a hunting pack of Scarab Warriors. We were outgunned, and the Lanterns were overwhelmed. I only survived because I was on patrol on the opposite side of the system."

"But how did they get close enough-?"
A lone ship surviving to tell the tale? Not really the Reach's methods, is it? Never mind glassing a planet thy had been trying to convert.

"A boom tube."

Oh dear.
Harralax: Oh, yes, that's the stuff... x3

"Their own, or did Grayven open it for them?"

"I did not see. We were at the wrong angle, and our sensors-."
Other side of the system and all. The big bug's not being subtle, are they?

"It's fine."

Or, rather, it's not. Looks like the Reach have decided that now is the time to take this seriously. And with Grayven not running interference and forcing them to keep a lot of their navy to their inner systems…
Which makes it all the more odd that they seem to be working together all of a sudden. Something OL was concerned about, of course.

"Link up with the closest L.E.G.I.O.N. fleet and request new orders. There's no reason to stay here when there's nothing to hold. Or rescue."

"Yes, Illustres."
Coldly logical. Your best defence against Fear...

I find myself… Looking at exactly where the egg bunker for the north western continent was. The place I-.

My ring blinks, though there is no attempt at conversation as a set of coordinates appear in my consciousness. A heartbeat and I'm there, already too late as Reach dreadnoughts obliterate the L.E.G.I.O.N. capital ships with-.
Oh, come on, now, Harralax. That smash-cut scene change wasn't even subtle.

A purple beam lashes out from a Reach battleship, striking a Lantern who had been dogfighting with three Scarab Warriors and… Completely obliterating them. They're a small and agile target, how did it-?

That Scarab, they're carrying a target designator. They aim it and fire and the battleship weapon fires where it's told to. The weapon is new, and appears to work like a phaser array: able to fire in any direction without build-up.
Well, that brings a new immediacy to 'Danger Close!', doesn't it? :rolleyes:

Good design.

Thaumically dead system, so there's no point in letting Colin out.
No point giving the bug any ideas. Not that they can pull off Identity Theft.

Construct railguns and cold guns appear around me, crumbler rounds blasting out and cold beams strobing across the intervening space. The closest battleship shudders as my attack hits home-.

BOOM!
Ah, trying the 'everything-proof shield', huh? Like a child.

A boom tube opens directly behind it, my shots being intercepted and…

Wait.

That's… Not how boom tubes w-.
Yep. One too many inconsistencies...

"Illustres!" A Lantern I don't immediately recognise flies up to me. "We're getting slaughtered and they've broken through! What do we do?!"

"Watch my back as I remove these ships."
Heh. If only you could be that confident in front of an actual Reach fleet yet.

And don't think I didn't notice that. My last clear memory was Parallax 'returning to his home planet' after identifying that I was afraid of failing to live up to my obligations. A being of Parallax's power should be more than capable of influencing my mind, and-. I didn't step out. I just appeared at my new location, because Parallax can't cope with the Honden of Avarice.

Looks like realising that doesn't get me out. I'm a little worried about what I'm actually doing while this is going on, but… My guess is that I'm still back on that planet and this is a pure illusion. Parallax likes fear, not other forms of emotional damage.
Let's hope you don't have to go to the extent you did in the no-win-scenario training exercise...

So I'll go along with it, because completely accurate images of my friends, allies and dependents dying en masse aren't things I particularly want to see because Parallax was completely right about that. I fly towards the Reach fleet, construct shield ahead of me and guns still firing. I doubt that anything here can actually kill me, but I imagine that a low level fear of being powerless to affect the universe would allow them to score crippling hits. I need to watch out for-.
After all, they don't want you dead. They need you scared...

I spot a tiny shift in stellar debris clouds and I roll and fire. A purple energy beam punches through where I was a moment ago just as the stealthy Scarab Warrior freezes and then shatters.

Okay, so why was I allowed to-?
Because hurting you isn't the only way to make you afraid...

I turn my head aside as the remains of the Lantern who requested my direction drifts away, the beam having punched through their defences and vaporised most of their lower body along with their ring hand, leaving their fear-chilled face staring at me.

Playing off my sense of responsibility, or trying to personalise the tragedy unfolding in front of me? Irrelevant. Other than giving Parallax the idea that I'm a psychopath, I can't have an emotional response to something I know perfectly well isn't happening.
Yeah, I suspect his little song of fear isn't very entertaining yet.

Realising hasn't freed me. What might? Overcoming my own fear, maybe. But I think it would require enlightenment-type overcoming. And honestly I don't think stopping being at least a bit afraid of making a mess of things would be a good idea. Quite aside from the fact that I'd end up with a tendency to look down on the burning remains of a world I failed to save and shrug 'Oh well, plenty of other worlds', I know that other people started seeing me as a little inhuman after I attained avarice enlightenment. Manage a second form and I'll probably be unrecognisable.
Especially in a second 'hot' emotion. Gaining Hope or Compassion Enlightenment would probably balance you out... :p Though I can't imagine Mr Zoat wanting to try to render dual Enlightement in text. Different colours of opening and closing quotes? Sounds like a nightmare. :confused:

Of course, if Parallax can't make me think that I've stepped out, that should work.

I finally get an angle to another battleship and open fire, breaking its shield and shutting down its main drive system. No boom tube defence, so perhaps Parallax is trying to keep it plausible. I look to the fore, to see where the Reach Fleet is actually going-. Tillettit, because Parallax is trying to show me the death of worlds in which I have an emotional investment.
Trying to make you feel afraid of losing what's yours. How pedestrian.

Enough of this.

We step out, the comforting structures of the Honden of Avarice surrounding us at once. A little disconcerting as these desires belong to a people long since dead, but their place here is as if they were still alive. We take a moment to try to feel the desires of the Weaponer, but… There is nothing immediately obvious as belonging to her. With a better lead it should be possible to find a thread to follow, but in the presence of so much yellow light…
Not gonna find her without more clues, huh? 'Wanting some manner of Spectrum-based weapon' is probably too vague a lead.

Mildly frustrating, but-. Jade! We

step back in, the yellow-washed mountainside of the village appearing in my visual field for a moment before the image of a burning world reasserts itself.
Welp. As long as he's corporeal, Harralax can affect him, huh? But he can't do much from the Honden...

"Clarissi to Illustres. Where were you?!"

I wave the image away.
That's probably just getting annoying now, huh?

"I know this isn't real. You're not going to make me afraid like this."

We step out again, but just for a moment before

reappearing on the mountainside.
And each time he does that, it's probably like a slap in Harralax's face...

"You see? We can't play with each other. You can't make me afraid with illusions."

Harrolds is glowering at me, a construct… A giant construct pseudo insectoid standing behind him. Parallax's default form.
Ah, hello there, giant space locust of Fear. So they are at least the same as canon in that respect.

"No. We don't suppose that we can."

He glows brilliantly for a moment-
...Oh, that can't be good.

Anti-matter transition-

-and then vanishes.

-detected.
Aw, dangit. He pulled a 19-63.

Crap. Wrong thing to say, OL. Looks like Harralax is going to go play with the real thing. Get Jade up and about and get after them, then, before they break something important. I do find it amusing, though, that Parrallax is now hyper-focused on messing with you, instead of the usual obsession with Hal Jordan... The joy of being the protagonist.
 
Didn't they have tech that blocks parallel teleportation after Blue Paul and friends visit?
 
Didn't they have tech that blocks parallel teleportation after Blue Paul and friends visit?
It's not completely comprehensive and this is the antimatter version of Earth 16 (I think at least) so it's either getting around the block by virtue of being a Emotional Entity or the block is for parallel not antimatter universes.
 
Didn't they have tech that blocks parallel teleportation after Blue Paul and friends visit?
It blocks the specific form that Blue and his group used.
I think Paul was hesitant to call upon his Ophidian connection when he was in an alternate parallel on the possibility that he would get in contact with the local variant rather then the one from his parallel.
Edit: Although he seems to have gotten over that fear.

Its also not completely clear if its one Emotional Embodiment per universe set (Say, Universe 14 and Anti-Universe 14 share an Entity).
 
It's not completely comprehensive and this is the antimatter version of Earth 16 (I think at least) so it's either getting around the block by virtue of being a Emotional Entity or the block is for parallel not antimatter universes.
Or it only blocks it around Earth. It would be a little ridiculous for travel to be blocked across the whole universe.
 
Paul: "Look, you can't make me afraid using fake things"

Harrolds: "So I should do it for real, got it, killing your friends brb"

Paul: "Wait no"

Maybe telling the incarnation of fear that is desperately trying to make you afraid that the only way to make you afraid is by *actually* doing all the terrible shit it was *pretending* to do was not the brightest move to make, who knew. :V
 
But I think it would require enlightenment-type overcoming. And honestly I don't think stopping being at least a bit afraid of making a mess of things would be a good idea. Quite aside from the fact that I'd end up with a tendency to look down on the burning remains of a world I failed to save and shrug 'Oh well, plenty of other worlds', I know that other people started seeing me as a little inhuman after I attained avarice enlightenment.
I don't know I think that would probably make Paul more balanced and besides Paul just knows the source of his desire and why he has them he can't lie to himself about why doing something, So fear enlightenment probably wouldn't be a bad thing. Is Doctor Mist technically what we would get if Paul enlightened all his emotions?
 
Is there one Elemental of Fear in total or one for each universe? If each universe has a seperate one then there are now 2 in Paul's home universe.
IRCC The New 52, there was one for each universe for the Relic storyline, and since we know how much Zoat likes the New 52, it is the likely answer!
 
Paul: "Look, you can't make me afraid using fake things"

Harrolds: "So I should do it for real, got it, killing your friends brb"

Paul: "Wait no"

Maybe telling the incarnation of fear that is desperately trying to make you afraid that the only way to make you afraid is by *actually* doing all the terrible shit it was *pretending* to do was not the brightest move to make, who knew. :V

Nah, once Paul realized it was an illusion, it was too late. Parralax would have realized sooner or later that illusions weren't enough.

Though I wonder...Is Parralax going to Earth? Paul specifically didn't call on the Ophidian there because he didn't want to risk infecting an entity with Anti-Life.
 
Nah, once Paul realized it was an illusion, it was too late. Parralax would have realized sooner or later that illusions weren't enough.

Though I wonder...Is Parralax going to Earth? Paul specifically didn't call on the Ophidian there because he didn't want to risk infecting an entity with Anti-Life.
If that's why, then given that Earth is where the Life Entity is, that's a concern that he should already have.
 
I have a question Mr Zoat: How do the Emotion Entities work with regard to the positive/negative universe pairs? Is there an Ophidian, Ion, Parallax and so on in each, meaning that this was probably the Anti-Parallax or something? Or do the Entities bridge the matter-antimatter gap and travel through it freely? Or do the antimatter universes (or at least -16) simply not have Emotional Entities for some reason or another?
 
Me said:
completely obliterating them.
"Baring" to "Barring".
"in a show of"
Thank you, corrected.
That said, I have a question Mr Zoat: How do the Emotion Entities work with regard to the positive/negative universe pairs? Is there an Ophidian, Ion, Parallax and so on in each, meaning that this was probably the Anti-Parallax or something? Or do the Entities bridge the matter-antimatter gap and travel through it freely? Or do the antimatter universes (or at least -16) simply not have Emotional Entities for some reason or another?
I'm going to tentatively say that each positive/negative pairing shares one.
 
I know that other people started seeing me as a little inhuman after I attained avarice enlightenment. Manage a second form and I'll probably be unrecognisable.

Unless and until Paul manages all seven color/emotional enlightenments, then combines what he's learned and understands to finally achieve Life Enlightenment.
 
Though I wonder...Is Parralax going to Earth? Paul specifically didn't call on the Ophidian there because he didn't want to risk infecting an entity with Anti-Life.

Well if he goes there and is affected by it then he may die and there's one less threat.

Granted that would probably have a lot of negative consequences for everyone, like people suddenly not being afraid of jumping into a fire.

Or maybe he can overcome it, but then Earth has a new problem to deal with.

He could also destroy the planet without getting too close.

Paulphidian was able to move the moon with his finger, so the new guy could just have the moon crash into Earth.
 
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''Hello.''

Unless and until Paul manages all seven color/emotional enlightenments, then combines what he's learned and understands to finally achieve Life Enlightenment.

Mr. Zoat has already said that that basically won't happen; he compared Life Enlightenment to some ridiculously difficult video game achievements. It's not something that you 'just need to know about,' it's the Infinity +1 Sword. If you aren't lantern Jesus (Kyle Rayner, I think?), it's not worth your while - unless you're an ancient super mage who acted as a peeping Tom to the Life Entity, a la Balewa.


Still, fear enlightenment wouldn't remove his fears, just increase his awareness of them and aid in his control of fear mindstates.
That being said, Compassion is the 'cold' emotion that complements and opposes Avarice. If Paul was going for a Dual Enlightenment, I'd assume that (given the choice) Indigo would be optimal, for balancing him out and empowering him. The power to teleport farther doesn't help him much (unless he's trying to go to a place without people quickly, since he can only Greediport to beings with desires), but the ability to use all the colors would probably help with the inhumanity.
 
That being said, Compassion is the 'cold' emotion that complements and opposes Avarice. If Paul was going for a Dual Enlightenment, I'd assume that (given the choice) Indigo would be optimal, for balancing him out and empowering him. The power to teleport farther doesn't help him much (unless he's trying to go to a place without people quickly, since he can only Greediport to beings with desires), but the ability to use all the colors would probably help with the inhumanity.

Compassion would also boost his stealth, since Indigo Lanterns are nearly undetectable if they don't want to be noticed.
 
Well. Not as calm as we thought. Parallax wants to taste fears... he should go to Apokalypse
 

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