Zig
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Pretty sure this is a UK only word, had to Google it. Scholarship is the colonial equivalent.
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Pretty sure this is a UK only word, had to Google it. Scholarship is the colonial equivalent.
I nearly responded 'maybe the Renegade has been a positive influence', but then I realised how unlikely that was.Pretty sure this is a UK only word, had to Google it. Scholarship is the colonial equivalent.
*holds in a laugh*Or J'emm and I will have words. Not that I think it will come to that. With the government decapitated during a period of severe civil unrest he's far too busy. J'onn got recalled to help with the Manhunters and I'm a government advisor. No follow up from the Hyperclan as yet. Their agents are still in place, but neither Karmang or T'Pexor have put in an appearance. Maybe the phase-state annihilator that vaporised the top half of Olympus Mons got them? There's a happy thought.
You mean you... Know exactly what a weapon I just made up without providing a description does, and know exactly how it interacts with a fictional species whose precise abilities haven't been defined?*holds in a laugh*
If that's what he actually sent there's no way they're dead. Heck, I am not sure that would even kill a normal Martian. Though, I guess that explains why Motherbox was willing to send it in the first place.
You shouldn't have used existing scientific terminology to describe it if you didn't want the weapon's capabilities to be defined and picked apart.You mean you... Know exactly what a weapon I just made up without providing a description does, and know exactly how it interacts with a fictional species whose precise abilities haven't been defined?
Well, I'm impressed.
Oh, don't. You didn't pick anything apart.You shouldn't have used existing scientific terminology to describe it if you didn't want the weapon's capabilities to be defined and picked apart.
Mostly joking there - but I'd assume it would be water hot enough to burn, or air that is essentially hot enough to be on fire, etc ... her new god soul structure being involved with every spell she casts. Less that she is limited and more that fire is intrinsically a part of every spell she casts.OK, clearly we are looking at this through different lenses, because to my mind, you are massively underestimating the bullshit level of most DC-like Earths, including Earth-16.
Of course, a college student who can conjure alcohol would be a lot of fun at parties...
First of all, Bose–Einstein condensate is a low temperature state not a fundamental state...Oh, don't. You didn't pick anything apart.
The phase states are solid, liquid, gas, plasma and Bose–Einstein condensate. I stuck 'annihilator' on the end, which could mean 'the set of all linear functionals that map to zero all elements of a given subset of a vector space' but probably means 'thing which reduces a target to utter ruin or nonexistence'. That tells you nothing about how it operates.
Don't you mean "classical state"? There are three classical states of matter (solid, liquid, gas) but as it turns out there's a lot of border cases, exceptions, etc that really don't fall into any one category. And there's also a whole bunch of stuff that's just completely new, like Bose-Einstein condensate. All in all, if you aren't limiting yourself to classical states there's probably close to 20 of them, not just 3.First of all, Bose–Einstein condensate is a low temperature state not a fundamental state...
False; that is not the only usage of "annihilation".Second, you're forgetting the physics description of "annihilator", which is "To convert (a subatomic particle) to energy or high-energy particles by annihilation".
Third, you're forgetting that Martians aren't made of ordinary matter.
It's almost like he came up with a inspecific technobabble explanation that consisted of a name and nothing else, and then just explained the effects afterwards...I am reminded of a story from the production of Stargate SG-1 who's moral applies here. In the middle of the show a new writer came in, he was writing a episode that involved the extraction of a symbiote. Long story short, after an exhaustive search to find out how that was handled that involved senior writers trolling him. He found out it was with a blink and you miss it throwaway line that amounted to "the extraction process was a success". The moral of this whole story is, "you don't have to be specific".
The page you linked has plasma as a classical state. All of them except quark-gluon plasma are low energy states, and I assumed it might convert matter into something like that. Kind of hard for a bomb to bring something to near 0 temperatures. Either way, this is irrelevantly if talking about quantum phasing. Also, this could be another thing different about this universe - Martians are made of a matter that Apocalyptian quantum-phase-state anihalator bombs can affect. That seems like a small difference, right?Don't you mean "classical state"? There are three classical states of matter (solid, liquid, gas) but as it turns out there's a lot of border cases, exceptions, etc that really don't fall into any one category. And there's also a whole bunch of stuff that's just completely new, like Bose-Einstein condensate. All in all, if you aren't limiting yourself to classical states there's probably close to 20 of them, not just 3.
And if we are limiting ourselves to classical states, plasma probably shouldn't be in there either. That's a bit too recent to be a classical state, i'd sayt Though I think it would be a bit silly to limit ourselves to classical states; every time we discover some new exotic state, are we just going to say "it doesn't count! there are three states of matter! THREE!"?
It also has amorphous solids, quasicrystals, liquid crystals, disordered hyperunity...
I've you're not going to accept my Word of God on my own work, there's no point in talking to me.First of all, Bose–Einstein condensate is a low temperature state not a fundamental state...
Second, you're forgetting the physics description of "annihilator", which is "To convert (a subatomic particle) to energy or high-energy particles by annihilation".
Third, you're forgetting that Martians aren't made of ordinary matter.
I am reminded of a story from the production of Stargate SG-1 who's moral applies here. In the middle of the show a new writer came in, he was writing a episode that involved the extraction of a symbiote. Long story short, after an exhaustive search to find out how that was handled that involved senior writers trolling him. He found out it was with a blink and you miss it throwaway line that amounted to "the extraction process was a success". The moral of this whole story is, "you don't have to be specific".
You didn't need to call the bomb a phase state annihilator, you could have just said bomb and nobody would have wondered about the how.
The only real problem I see with any bomb affecting Martians, is that they should be able to phase through anything. It doesn't matter if temperature is suddenly raised by millions of degrees, if you're no longer technically in the same plane of existence (in the quantumphasing way). Zoat's comment about physical states just led to confusion. It would be a lot easier to assume it refers to quantum phasing/ whatever type of phasing Martians do(might have to do with phases of matter?)/ the ability to affect phased Martians and leave it at that perfectly generic sci-fi term.It also has amorphous solids, quasicrystals, liquid crystals, disordered hyperunity...
I'm more referring to what someone like the ancient Greeks would refer to as a distinct state of matter. Literally "classical". Because apparently we're throwing out everything modern and using our own made up definitions anyway...
It's Vaermina. I believe we have already established that Vaermina is the absolute authority on everything that Vaermina chooses to comment upon. Yes, this also includes fictional subjects that you just made up.You mean you... Know exactly what a weapon I just made up without providing a description does, and know exactly how it interacts with a fictional species whose precise abilities haven't been defined?
Well, I'm impressed.
The only real problem I see with any bomb affecting Martians, is that they should be able to phase through anything. It doesn't matter if temperature is suddenly raised by millions of degrees, if you're no longer technically in the same plane of existence (in the quantumphasing way). Zoat's comment about physical states just led to confusion. It would be a lot easier to assume it refers to quantum phasing/ whatever type of phasing Martians do(might have to do with phases of matter?)/ the ability to affect phased Martians and leave it at that perfectly generic sci-fi term.
For irony, you could imagine it destabilizing their phase states (or whatever Karmang did to make all the other Martians burn themselves) and just go with that as part of it's effect.
We're totally happy to refer to a collection of colleges as a university, and pretty much every major institute of higher education in the US has multiple colleges under its umbrella. No American would bat an eye at referring to the "university campus".
Not sure. Only explanation was in an early scene when Ms Martian is trying to pass her hand through a table and failing. If that's not the reason, it still seems like it would be nearly impossible to kill someone who could pass through a wall with something that only affects the physical world if they were prepared. I don't really remember what the explanation was, but I do remember that it was supposedly possible to get stuck phasing / shifting through an object unless practiced, which means that if practiced, you can't get hit by an object/ energy phasing through you? Either way, just to not have to deal with all the difficulty of the last few dialogues, I'm assuming the phasing in the name refers to the bomb's ability to deal with whatever type of phasing Martians use, which might otherwise be used as a workaround to being hit with explosions.When was it established that Martians become intangible through quantum phasing? I don't remember that being the technobabble Zoat went with. Am I misremembering?
I do remember it was different technobabble than word of Greg, which makes it a shapeshifting trick to alter density ala Marvel's Vision, but unlike the Vision they cannot affect mass, just density.
I nearly responded 'maybe the Renegade has been a positive influence', but then I realised how unlikely that was.
Dude... It's "Annihilator" not "Annihlation"... At least try to get the word being talked about right.
Annihilator: one who causes annihalation.Dude... It's "Annihilator" not "Annihlation"... At least try to get the word being talked about right.
Great point! Lets just go ahead and look at that page you linked...Dude... It's "Annihilator" not "Annihlation"... At least try to get the word being talked about right.
That said, there's a reason people don't just ignore him. He knows a decent amount of DC stuff, usually not related/included in this fic, and seems to specifically set his head canon to disagree with Zoat. It can be interesting to argue with someone who thinks they're right all the time when they're clearly overthinking it.Without Vaermina this board would be so boring. It's like that Simpson's clip where Lionel Hutz imagines a world without lawyers and shivers at the utopia of friendship and understanding.
You tell us this and don't provide a link? For shame, man!There was a fanfic I read where the local goddess of fire caused someone to keel over by flat out stopping the ATP reaction cells use to obtain energy. I don't know how well the science supports that one, but damn if it wasn't impressive.
Eh, seems like a bit of a stretch. If you let someone who controls fire control all exothernic chemical reactions, they are way too OP. They could:
Eh, you could always just let them do all of that and then build the story around them. That's basically what Fall of Doc Future did, but with a realistic speedster instead of a fire controller. Turns out, all the secondary abilities needed to let someone run around at a significant fraction of C? They kinda make you the most powerful being on Earth, bar none.Eh, seems like a bit of a stretch. If you let someone who controls fire control all exothernic chemical reactions, they are way too OP. They could:
turn off the sun (the main one)
cause solar flares that burn the earth
kill people instantly - by burning them from the inside
control emotions/ people's nerves - brainwashing
lightning (maybe)
Control anything that runs using electricity (seems easier than controlling atp)
If it's the fanfic I think it is then it's an edgy as fuck pony fic. Still want it?