With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

[Stsword]

At this distance in time I imagine that the entire human species is descended from Aurakles.

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Actually the most recent common male ancestor, aka Y Chromosome Adam, is estimated to have been alive 120 to 156 thousand years ago.

But considering Aurakles, Vandal, Immortal Man, Know Man, and the Insiders, I imagine Neanderthals did pretty well for themselves passing their DNA on.....

 

[Alexcorvin]

I've also done something that I wanted to avoid doing and implanted my rings inside my body, with one in my chest and the other in my skull.

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Mr Zoat, have you been reading Dogbert's own Ring SI? Cause this is something he brought up in, I think, chapter 2.

 

[Mr Zoat]

Mr Zoat, have you been reading Dogbert's own Ring SI? Cause this is something he brought up in, I think, chapter 2.

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I.. don't.. think so. The earliest reference to the implant idea I remember is from Planetary, where several of their Lantern-expies have their lantern implanted.

 

[Someguy Somewhere]

And here I thought it was from those Americanized Harry Potter fic's where they have implanted wands and used guns to deal with the classically stupid villains.

Very Shadowrun.

 

[Darko]

Mr Zoat, have you been reading Dogbert's own Ring SI? Cause this is something he brought up in, I think, chapter 2.

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What story is this?

Could you please leave a link?

 

[megamiaouh]

Dogbertcarroll's With Another Ring is still just a bunch of snips so far, but if he continues it he'll soon have to make it into a story.

 

[Vaermina]

I've also done something that I wanted to avoid doing and implanted my rings inside my body, with one in my chest and the other in my skull. My fingers have glowing pieces of plastic on them instead. A head shot… I'm not completely confident in my ability to survive one. Then again, I'm not confident of their ability to survive me, either.

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So... He's sacrificing his ability to make constructs in exchange for what?

 

[Darko]

So... He's sacrificing his ability to make constructs in exchange for what?

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He can still make constructs.

Sybarite implanted his ring in his body and he was able to make constructs.

He most likely implanted them in his body to make sure he doesn't lose them if he gets his hands cut of again.

He managed to summon them back after he lost them the last time, but the Sheeda may be faster now.

 

[Vaermina]

He can still make constructs.

Sybarite implanted his ring in his body and he was able to make constructs.

He most likely implanted them in his body to make sure he doesn't lose them if he gets his hands cut of again.

He managed to summon them back after he lost them the last time, but the Sheeda may be faster now.

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Sorry to tell you this, but one of the hard rules of Power Rings is that the construct has to be connected to the ring.

Another is that the threads can't pass through solid matter.

So yea, he lost his ability to make constructs, because if he tries he gives himself a lobotomy.

 

[Darko]

Sorry to tell you this, but one of the hard rules of Power Rings is that the construct has to be connected to the ring.

Another is that the threads can't pass through solid matter.

So yea, he lost his ability to make constructs, because if he tries he gives himself a lobotomy.

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Zoat can just make it so that rings from Earth 16 can do those things.

It wouldn't be going against any Earth 16 power rings canon, since there practically is none.

 

[Vaermina]

Zoat can just make it so that rings from Earth 16 can do those things.

It wouldn't be going against any Earth 16 power rings canon, since there practically is none.

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Again, sorry to tell you this, but those limitations are so basic they actually showed up in Young Justice.

 

[Darko]

Again, sorry to tell you this, but those limitations are so basic they actually showed up in Young Justice.

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Please provide proof that the limitations showed up in the TV show and the tie in comics.

Also, please provide proof that orange rings in Earth 16 have these limitations.

Not green rings, but orange rings.

 

[Darko]

Sorry to tell you this, but one of the hard rules of Power Rings is that the construct has to be connected to the ring.

Another is that the threads can't pass through solid matter.

So yea, he lost his ability to make constructs, because if he tries he gives himself a lobotomy.

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An explanation for how OL can get around these restrictions, assuming they exist and Zoat decides to add them, is that he can make a small filament pierce his body in a way which causes little to no damage and make constructs when the filament is out.

OL prefers using filaments.

 

[Alexcorvin]

What story is this?

Could you please leave a link?

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Darko ----v

Dogbertcarroll's With Another Ring is still just a bunch of snips so far, but if he continues it he'll soon have to make it into a story.

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[thebishop8]

Phasing and invisibility don't work well together,

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This confuses me, given that phasing and invisibility have been used together without problem before.

 

[Darko]

This confuses me, given that phasing and invisibility have been used together without problem before.

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Maybe he can use them, but it isn't all that easy to and he's just mentioning it now.

 

[Mr Zoat]

This confuses me, given that phasing and invisibility have been used together without problem before.

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Remind me?

 

[thebishop8]

Remind me?

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Here's some of the instances that they were used together:

I drop my construct armour and reactivate invisibility and phasing, warp again and drop bombs again.

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The drones shimmer and then disappear. Invisible and mindless, they should be able to escape detection. Phased, they won't be affected by the water.

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"He's been practising with my stealth armour." Richard hesitates, then nods. "Phasing and invisibility. Unless they know exactly what to look for and have some very specialist equipment, they wouldn't be able to stop him."

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I go invisible, phase and fly up after it,

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Dismiss constructs, invisible and phase.

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She phases a moment before she would hit, shimmering into invisibility.

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I'm phased and invisible, the rings prepared to deflect anything that they can detect before it detects me.

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My armour appears around me and I phase out and go invisible for a moment before reappearing.

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Phasing and invisibility engaged, I scan the system.

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I'd considered using arcane metamaterials in my armour, but I felt that phasing and invisibility were more useful.

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Phased and invisible, I float through the wall behind them.

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"I prefer subtle-." I go invisible and then phase out. She blinks, then I phase back in.

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[infinityDivided]

Here's some of the instances that they were used together:

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Wow, you collected those fast.

 

[Coda]

This is landscaping for fortification; to better enable them to fight potential attackers.

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Semicolon should probably be a comma, but a colon might be appropriate.

Wow, you collected those fast.

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Not hard to search for all posts in a thread containing two specific words.

 

[Mr Zoat]

Here's some of the instances that they were used together:

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...

Right then. I guess I'll be editing today's segment.

Semicolon should probably be a comma, but a colon might be appropriate.

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Thank you, corrected.

 

[Vaermina]

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Right then. I guess I'll be editing today's segment.

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And Yesterday's unless you want to make Paul look like an idiot.

 

[Stsword]

An explanation for how OL can get around these restrictions, assuming they exist and Zoat decides to add them, is that he can make a small filament pierce his body in a way which causes little to no damage and make constructs when the filament is out.

OL prefers using filaments.

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Actually the "constructs have to be connected to the ring, even if by filaments" is Zoat's rule, not the comics.

Here's a pic of Hal recreating Coast City and it's people, and not a single one of the constructs is connected to his ring in any way whatsoever.

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Kyle gave Purgatory construct legs which were then fueled by Purgatory's willpower and then later Neron's magic, independent entirely of Kyle's ring.

I had never even heard of the idea that constructs had to remain connected to the rings before this fic, and I immediately filed it away under stuff Zoat made up for this fic.

 

[Darko]

And Yesterday's unless you want to make Paul look like an idiot.

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Zoat can't even read what you're saying since he's blocked you, so this little attempt at getting him to edit his post is just pointless.

Actually the "constructs have to be connected to the ring, even if by filaments" is Zoat's rule, not the comics.

Here's a pic of Hal recreating Coast City and it's people, and not a single one of the constructs is connected to his ring in any way whatsoever.

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Kyle gave Purgatory construct legs which were then fueled by Purgatory's willpower and then later Neron's magic, independent entirely of Kyle's ring.

I had never even heard of the idea that constructs had to remain connected to the rings before this fic, and I immediately filed it away under stuff Zoat made up for this fic.

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Either Zoat decided to make it so that constructs from Earth 16 need to be connected to the ring to work, or he just made his SI and the various Lanterns in the story believe this, even though the constructs may be able to function without being connected, just because it makes sense, and OL may not remember the instances in which the constructs functioned independently in the comics, or just think that they were connected to the ring, but the connection couldn't be seen.

 

[Stsword]

Either Zoat decided to make it so that constructs from Earth 16 need to be connected to the ring to work, or he just made his SI and the various Lanterns in the story believe this, even though the constructs may be able to function without being connected, just because it makes sense, and OL may not remember the instances in which the constructs functioned independently in the comics, or just think that they were connected to the ring, but the connection couldn't be seen.

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Zoat hasn't incorporated quite a few tricks from the comics, to tell you the truth.

Considering how high Zoat's "useless DC trivia" stat is, my going assumption is that he knows about them and just decided for any number of reasons to leave them out.

For example, Ganthet created an independent construct to beat Kyle like a drum and bring Kyle to him.

Yeah, getting kidnapped by Ganthet was not the high point of Kyle's career.

But however how much charge creating an independent construct costs, Paul has a lantern.

So Paul could create an army of constructs, and all it would take him is time.

So Paul could have an army of constructs, without the moral issues that generally prevent the Pauls from having their own armies.

Zoat doesn't seem to have the inclination to write the Seinfieldian nonadventures of Paul and the gang while Paul's construct army prevents all crime and accidents.

 

[Mr Zoat]

2nd May
03:16 GMT -5

The first bunkroom is just that: a bunk room.

The second is also a bunkroom, but this time it's occupied. Warlock-breed lie on the beds, eyes staring blankly at the ceiling. They appear to be wearing… Whatever the Sheeda picked them up wearing. No… Obvious-. Ah, a neck clamp of some sort. Presumably holding them in near-total paralysis, 'near-total' because I can just about see them struggling to breathe. Storage for whatever they're planning on doing with them? I'll come back once the Sheeda are dealt with.

The third room is also a bunkroom. And a mortuary. Or.. possibly meat storage. I don't remember whether the Sheeda had any particular problem with cannibalism. The bodies have been mutilated, cut open and… Parts removed. There the flesh has been stripped from the left side of the skull, which in turn has been opened to allow the removal of parts of the brain. Next to that unfortunate a rib cage has been opened up and the lungs and liver are missing. The rest are in worse condition still. I'm not sure which part of this world the victims came from. I can't see any mutated parts, but I'd have to check their genes with an active scan to be certain.

Why be selective? There's no way they have the facilities to analyse arcane physiology like this here. Are they removing them? Planning on taking them back to the future for some reason? I'd consider it as taking hunting trophies if there was any rhyme or reason to the parts they were taking. Donation? I wouldn't think so, and the remains here certainly seem… Fresh enough.

"Mamuraghahhhhhhhhh…"

I phase through the wall in the direction of the noise.

Two figures in bleached armour are standing next to a warlock-breed who is strapped to a mobile platform. The one on the left is holding some sort of beetle, which is chewing through their victim's right arm. No, chewing though connective tissue, like a scalpel with mandibles. It looks like the warlock-breed has.. some sort of exoskeleton growth? And it's being peeled away in sections. Other pieces of skin have already been removed, and laid out on a… On an organic frame, which appears to be supplying them with a green fluid in place of blood from a slowly-beating bladder at the base.

"We are fortunate with this one."

"Melmoth's loss is our gain."

"Come now. This would not have bought him back into her good graces."

They're both fully armoured but I can only see their side arms. And as far as I can tell they're both looking at their victim. Who's still conscious, but no longer able to make noise due to the damage to his throat.

"Nor would it us. I am concerned about the Lantern."

They ride giant insects and their surgical tool is an insect. That skin loom thing looks… If not 'alive' then at least biological. Is their armour alive as well?

"Why? This world is far from Earth."

"If the profligates have Lanterns, that implies that they are close to freeing themselves from Earth. If that is true, then this harvest-."

Left glares at right. "Do not speak it."

"As you insist. But you understand-?"

Left returns his attention to his victim. "An alternative would be preferable in any case. Something that gets us out of the sun. Events merely emphasise the importance of-" With a tug a section of carapace comes free, and it gets attached to the frame. "-our work here."

"Melmoth's work here. It is unfortunate that he is dead. It would be enlightening to question him."

"I will trust Melmoth to remain dead when the Queen eats his still-living body, and not a moment before. I suspect that we will find his trail once we move on."

"The leg, you think?"

"The fleshborer thinks not. The taint of summer's dawning is too great for it to have use to us."

"It is well-intact."

"We have no need for revenants. These people are broken. It would serve no purpose, even as a distraction, and our flies are well-fed."

"It seems so wasteful. We could create a true reclamation vat."

"I did not volunteer for this duty in order to 'recycle responsibly'. For this brief time we may be as profligate as our ancestors. I suggest that you enjoy it, for it will not come again."

"The Queen's order-."

"Applies under the vampire sun, yes. But we are no longer there. And her commandments relating to Earth do not apply, for we are not there."

"True. But if we are to be profligate, may we not do so properly? The larger settlements are more likely to have treasures worth plundering."

"Alas, we are bound to our task. Still… It would not hurt to acquire specimens from there also."

"And food, and drink."

"If you wish to be violently ill, be my guest. We are not as our ancestors were."

Left shrugs and gestures to his victim's throat with the beetle.

"A simple fix. I could take his tongue and temporarily replace my own. That would grant me the taste."

"If you could make it function, which is not a certainty."

"I would have many attempts."

"Perhaps. We must process our current cull first. Then if Anarawd has not stirred himself there would be no harm in it."

Left raises his beetle.

"May he rest well and true."

He moves it towards his victim's throat-.

I take an x-ionised blade out of subspace and send it at his throat!

He reacts a fraction of a second before it hits, catching the blade on a neck-ring rather than the seam I aimed for as he turns aside and tries to crouch. The construct holding the blades registers the hit, but his head remains lamentably on his shoulders. He backpedals while his colleague draws his gun and fades from view.

I drop the blade and open fire with a mixed volley of crumbler and phasic rounds at the one who went invisible, while the other gets an orange energy pulse as I move around the room. An entropic beam punches a hole through the wall where I was a moment before, and some equipment is knocked back as my railgun rounds hit something. The orange energy pulse wrecks the other Sheeda's side arm and it-

"E-h."

-stumbles as the gun's power cell detonates against its leg.

Then Abednego steps out of its shadow and jams a witch-sign through its helmet's eye, causing it to freeze up as the sigil shudders! Railgun rounds clearly unreliable I switch to a beam singularity and fire an arc across the origin point for the entropic ray. The Sheeda fades back into visibility, my beam having caught him across the hips and sliced him in two. He's still alive and he's dropped his gun, but he's bleeding freely and from his limpness I see that he's not long for this world.

I send out filaments and stop the bleeding, then reach into his soul.

"Brand."

His torso spasms, his eyes snap open and flare orange-.

His body collapses, decaying into flakes of dust that I turn my sensors up to maximum to try and analyse… No, I'm not getting anything helpful. I know what ash looks like.

Abednego's opponent appears to have a similar reaction to his witch-sign; his eyes flare white as Abednego steps away and-.

Dust again.

Damn it-!

No, can't worry about it. I remove the severed tissue from the frame, press it into the wounds of the vivisection victim and take out a purple healing ray.

 

[Sockmonkey]

IIRC, independent constructs like Teekl were still connected by a filament of some sort, it just only existed on the spiritual plane or something. OL was able to see it with Ophidian-vision. I think that scene took place in the vodon restaurant.

 

[Darko]

to wearing

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'to be wearing'

full armoured

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'fully armored'

With a tug a section of carapace comes free, and it attached to the frame.

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this one feels a bit weird, maybe 'it attaches to the frame' or 'is attached'

tried to crouch

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'tries to crouch'

limpness not long for this world.

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maybe add 'is not long'

step the bleeding

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'stop'

 

[Ngamer11]

Railgun rounds clearly unreliable I switch to a beam singularity and fire a arc across the origin point for the entropic ray.

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Should be 'an arc'.

 

[Handlewithcare]

Anyone else lack the lore background to understand what they talked about?