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Plenty of asymmetric warfare sure but no fights against magic users, only primitives?
Did you read some AU version of ISOT? If so, gimme!
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That bit was terrible in both the manga and the anime.
Three major powers getting soldiers into Japan is perfectly possible. America has more soldiers than that just in its embassy. I could accept that dug-in Japanese special forces would have a very good kill-death ratio against small squads of attackers. Nor so sure about those attackers pressing the attack and clearly having no real idea what they were doing, but okay.
But what the heck were they doing there? I mean, if Rory hadn't been around and they reached their objective what exactly would have happened? They'd have captured a couple of Saderans. And... Profit? The people they would have captured would have no special bypass to get back home. The people holding them would have no access to the gate. They'd just be left holding proof that they committed an act of war.
Wouldn't take much to piss them off.I'm guessing Hardy and Emroy have issues with the "God of Ambition"? I wonder what he did....
She's a wizard she ain't got to explain shi...oh wait the whole point of her power boost is that she is explaining it.We are told this is 100% fatal with no chance of surviving.
Lelei survives.
No reason is given and no special effort is made by the characters to make this happen. She just does.
well besides recovering people captured in the gate slave raid on ginza Japan is trying to use the gate as a means to access resources.But what the heck were they doing there? I mean, if Rory hadn't been around and they reached their objective what exactly would have happened?
So many years and I can still laugh about it. I'd known that gods generally couldn't manifest their full power in the material universe without a vast array of preparations but I didn't realise before I came through their oversized dolmen gate that by local standards I had reached that standard. And I couldn't do what Zeus did and create an avatar for myself because it doesn't work like that here. I'm still not sure whether it was intentional or a pure fluke on their part.
But the only way they can do that is with Japanese cooperation, because whoever they capture the gate is still in Japan.the great powers want a piece of that pie, a fresh world to strip mine or if all else fails
a safe harbor to evacuate to in case of WW3
Involuntary transubstantiation.So did Paul get his body automatically destroyed when he came through because he can now qualify as a god due to his powerful soul and when he entered the universe its natural magical laws took over and destroyed his body?
Don't feel obliged to do that. It's not good.Well, darn you Mr. Zoat.
After looking up the setting, I now have another book series that I need to read. This one looks really interesting to, I always loved Stargate.
Edit/PS: I just found the 24 episode Anime on VRV. I know what I am binge watching next.
The most SoD breaking part of the series is that US, China, Russia and the other big boys would just let Japan control access to an entire new planet in exchange for... mining rights? Really? You find out there's an entire world with actual gods and magic (as unimpressive as it is) and your ambition ends with 'let's mine it for oil'. Right.
I could, but I'd have to rewrite the whole thing and it wouldn't really be Gate any more. This is god-future-SI in canon-Gate, not new and improved Gate.A year and eight months later, I am caught up again. Huh.
And first thing that happens is I run into GATE of all fucking things, but I am sure Mr Zoat can do the series better than the series can, admittedly not too hard.
This appears to be the main OL actually. When the whole Ambush Bug thing happened, OL not only saw alternate versions of himself, but his own personal future.
It's why we know Paragon will eventually travel to Wilson and recruit Nightmare Moon into the orange lantern corp. It's why we know the main version of OL that we're following will meet Prince Zuko from Avatar and help Azula's mental state recover, and how we know he will mentor Tai Lung from Kung Fu Panda and help him see the error of his ways.
This appears to be the main Paragon OL just in the far future when he starts exploring non-DC universes.
So from the new episode title, this is presumably the Renegade arc where we find out the origins of the Sheeda, and probably the last time we'll see them in play during the story; I guess this is the end of 'season 4' of With This Ring, then.
Cursory Googling doesn't help me out with remembering the terminology, so I'd just like to request some clarification; at this point in the Earth-16 timeline it's the Land of Spring, and the Sheeda come from the Land of Summer's End, but there's also a Land of Autumn or something?
Actually how does the timeline work regarding the MLP stuff, since on Renegade's side things are way in the future. Or does Starswirl's Mirror also cross time as well as space/dimensions?
That version of Wilson may have been set in a DC universe, since Karna, a planet in Vega, was mentioned as existing there.
Nah that was the Empire. The army that first went through the Gate had its wizards mess with said Gate so that they could get more plundering time. Problem was, they really didn't know what they were doing, Gates are not supposed to stay open that long and it was causing problems for both Earth and Falmart.I can't remember where I picked this up, but I remember something about Gates normally being temporary and short lived. When establishing a foot hold in the fantasy world the JSDF accidentally set up their defenses in a geometric shape which coincidentally acted as an enormous magical formation that kept the Gate open indefinitely.
A better series is called Nihonkoku Shoukan or Japan Summoned. Japan still dominated at first, but that was because it appeared in a part of the world full of backwater nations, the more advanced and powerful nations are around WWII level(with some via magitech), and have a lot bigger militaries then Japan and the biggest long term issue is the coming return of an old evil magitech empire that was better then modern Earth in some areas, worse in others.Oh, yes, Gate is a bad series. No argument. In theory an a-symmetric conflict between modern weapons and magic users could be interesting. What we got was an effortless stomp by a modern army against Roman legions with some heavy cavalry. No magic, no monsters worth anything and no demigods. And it didn't even handle the Japanese politics end of things very well!
The way magic works(well human magic, elves and sirens use something called spirit magic that works differently)in Gate is that mages use magic to interfere with and manipulate natural properties and phenomena, and because Falmart mages have at best either a late medieval/early renaissance understanding of said natural properties/phenomena, their magic tends to be very energy inefficient and not as powerful as it could be.Wouldn't take much to piss them off.
IIRC they are rather upset with Lelei in the novels.
something about how she's using scientific knowledge from earth to boost her magic.
Plenty of asymmetric warfare sure but no fights against magic users, only primitives?
Did you read some AU version of ISOT? If so, gimme!
Thx I should have read the comments b4 I posted. It's gonna be awesome watching this story line.
I think depending on when he comes in he'd be viewed as some techno messiah and have a humanist cult form around him. To be honest considering how easy the Salvation War was it's kinda understandable how snug they wereNow I'm imagining Paul in the Salvation War being annoyed at both how horrible Hell is and how unbearably smug all the humans are
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Oh, is THAT what happened. I didn't get that far into the manga because the fan translation I was reading stopped updating after a while, and when it got picked up by another group I never got around to trying to catch up.In this situation is was because Hardy, the local underworld goddess, thought that the Empire was getting a bit too arrogant and needed to be humbled, and so opened the Gate to a more advanced world(Japan, Earth) in order to humble them,
As a former soldier, I am rather enjoying the Anime. It has a decent dub even. I have been watching it all day.
Great powers absolutely have enough leverage, political, economic and otherwise to make the Gate an international venture.But the only way they can do that is with Japanese cooperation, because whoever they capture the gate is still in Japan.
Pretty much, even just the US alone could have done it.Great powers absolutely have enough leverage, political, economic and otherwise to make the Gate an international venture.
I think I'm going to have to watch Gate to understand this one.
No, I got that bit, but understanding the world, how Paul did the things he's managed in his backstory, shit like that.I haven't watched it either but I'm pretty sure the gist of it is the king decided to pick a fight with modern date Japan and got his shit pushed in by a technologically superior force and now desperately wishes he could disengage but cannot.
don't, you lose less brain cellI think I'm going to have to watch Gate to understand this one.
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In canon, they demonstrably didn't. Even in reality, if Japan chose not to allow foreign companies to do business on the far side... What happens? Reciprocal tariffs? Embargoes on Japanese goods? That hurts, but the impression I got is that the Japanese could put up with that until they get large enough markets on the far side of the gate to replace them. In canon they refused to accede to the US's demands until they used blackmail, so that's not going to work. Using agents embedded in Japanese companies might work, but other than accurate intelligence reports they're still not going to get a fat lot out of it.Great powers absolutely have enough leverage, political, economic and otherwise to make the Gate an international venture.