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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

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Mr Zoat said:
"Everyone's been telling me that they're nothing to worry about. It's just nice to have someone on the same wavelength as me where they're concerned. What in particular is it that bothers you about them? Is it the cultural elitism? Or the mind wiping? Or the bovine acceptance of-."
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Have we considered "global SEP field spell" as a reason why no one's worried?
 
CrazyNoVa said:
Perfect! Now all we need is sane Joker, and then we can start a sane Arkham villain club!

By the way, if Paul can't fix the Joker's brain with his Orange Ring because it would probably kill him, could Alan or Ghia'ta do it with their rings?
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I think that was addressed in a discussion with Harleen at some point, something about being able to do a genetic reset but choosing not to because it would be too much like murder?
 
A few comments.

First, Tetch doesn't seem all that remorseful over the things he did as the Hatter, much less hijacking people now. He might saner, but he still doesn't respect anyone's personal autonomy.

Second, remember a few updates ago when Canis looked at a picture of Tetch in the Mad Hatter costume and was like, "Huh, looks like pretty normal Apocalyptian clothing to me."? That was nice foreshadowing!

I too am invested in Tetch now. Awakening as a New God certainly puts him up a tier as a threat, but also gives him a lot more potential. I kind of hope that the SI is able to recruit him to some kind of non-villain occupation after this. OL is employing people a lot worse than Tetch in the war against the Reach.

One dog that isn't barking— where exactly is Batman in all of this? Yes, he declined OL's call, but has his partner Mr. Atom really not noticed that some Peace Agents have gone rogue? It's been minutes now; plenty of time for Batman to be alerted and deploy what with his power ring and hush tube and all that. I guess it's possible Batman is in the middle of something so delicate and important that he can't be disturbed for anything less than "immediate world-threatening crisis," of which this admittedly doesn't qualify.
 
Signaller said:
I think that was addressed in a discussion with Harleen at some point, something about being able to do a genetic reset but choosing not to because it would be too much like murder?
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I'm not talking genetic. I mean repairing his brain damage without changing his genetic structure. We know Lanterns can do it, because it's happened before in the story. Remember Mister Huang?
 
Mr Zoat said:
"Darn it. Sorry, sorry."

"I'm glad that you appreciate your position."

"Yes, because now I've made as many supervillains as Ted has, so I can't hold his invisible cyborg chimp rampage over his head any more."

"I've hacked his control system! I know the true purpose of his slave-soldiers! And I will not let it happen, do you hear me!" Off With His Head!

"I understand completely. What exactly-"

The Peace Agents shudder, doubling over as blue armour plates begin growing over their skin!
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It's really too bad Orange Lantern ignored all the Brother Eye warning signs...
 
CrazyNoVa said:
I'm not talking genetic. I mean repairing his brain damage without changing his genetic structure. We know Lanterns can do it, because it's happened before in the story. Remember Mister Huang?
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It seems like Mr. Zoat (and the SI) just kind of despise the Joker as a character, to be honest. If OL went to the effort could he figure out how to "fix" the Joker? You know, I bet he probably could; he's done some incredible things when he's set his mind to it, like toppling Zeus. Does he particularly want to? (No, I am not doing that thing of putting "want" in orange; I will leave that to the story.) No, I don't think he particularly wants to. Helping any other random person with severe problems who hasn't murdered a lot of people seems like a better use of his time if he's mustering up the desire to go do some healing.
 
Steelplaza said:
It seems like Mr. Zoat (and the SI) just kind of despise the Joker as a character, to be honest. If OL went to the effort could he figure out how to "fix" the Joker? You know, I bet he probably could; he's done some incredible things when he's set his mind to it, like toppling Zeus. Does he particularly want to? (No, I am not doing that thing of putting "want" in orange; I will leave that to the story.) No, I don't think he particularly wants to. Helping any other random person with severe problems who hasn't murdered a lot of people seems like a better use of his time if he's mustering up the desire to go do some healing.
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I understand that Zoat/Paul dislikes The Joker and wouldn't want to heal him, and that's perfectly fine. There's nothing wrong with not wanting to heal the psychotic mass murderering clown.

But what I'm really asking here is about all the other lanterns who don't hate The Joker, or at least don't want to kill him as much as Zoat/Paul does, like Alan or Ghia'ta. Hell, even Batman might want to use his yellow ring to directly change the Joker's brain to make him more compliant and less chaotic. Paul doesn't want to heal The Joker because he hates him, but what's their reason for not changing or healing The Joker?

And before you say anything, I also want to point out that it wouldn't be out-of-character for a blue lantern or a Star Sapphire to want to heal even someone as evil as The Joker, because their whole thing is to believe in love and hope or whatnot, which includes rehabilitation or second chances. That goes double for Alan and Bruce, since Alan actually lives in Gotham and has probably seen first-hand how sick and disturbed the Joker is, and would definitely hope for his recovery and rehabilitation, while the currently crazy Batman would probably jump at the chance to finally get rid of his nemesis once and for all without killing him, even if it means using Fear to rearrange his mind to make him more docile like in the Justice Lords universe.
 
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