With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Agent Orange · Nov 12, 2020

Sockmonkey said:
So is Malvolio doing the same kind of mind-fuckery with green that OL does with orange and nullifying the will of his followers so they kiss his ass?

Does he have to? Even if these people are real instead of just projections acting as he wants them to act, he's a several centuries old Lantern (equivalent). He's effectively a god in a place with no peers. They could simply be ~~afraid~~ wary of him for his immense power.

RichardWhereat · Nov 12, 2020

Agent Orange said:
Does he have to? Even if these people are real instead of just projections acting as he wants them to act, he's a several centuries old Lantern (equivalent). He's effectively a god in a place with no peers. They could simply be ~~afraid~~ weary of him for his immense power.

Weary or wary? Could be either in context. Probably wary.

Maxx Crowley · Nov 12, 2020

Geez OL....you could at least generate some orange tentacles to probe the poor alien a little for all the information you demanded.

I mean....manners much?

Flightless Man · Nov 13, 2020

Maxx Crowley said:
Geez OL....you could at least generate some orange tentacles to probe the poor alien a little for all the information you demanded.

I mean....manners much?

For some reason, i imagine these aliens believe in belly button probes instead of anal ones.

Maxx Crowley · Nov 13, 2020

Flightless Man said:
For some reason, i imagine these aliens believe in belly button probes instead of anal ones.

Man...there you go, making it all weird.

I tells ya....there is one in every group.

Flightless Man · Nov 13, 2020

Maxx Crowley said:
Man...there you go, making it all weird.

I tells ya....there is one in every group.

Only one? nah i figure here on the webs we weirdo's are by far the majority. So really, you normies make every conversation weird

.

Really though, i am weird for figuring every alien race would have it's own idea for what an abduction would entail. She seemed so innocent that i imagine the whole species only gets as dirty as a belly button.

I am slightly confused. Is Paul in a different time or only somewhere else in space? Sheeda travel confuddles me.

RichardWhereat · Nov 13, 2020

Found a jumpchain story based on With This Ring. So far it's quite decent. It's also quite short.
https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/loose-change-jumpchain.698548/

Maxx Crowley said:
Man...there you go, making it all weird.

I tells ya....there is one in every group.

This place has some twisted individuals.

Mr Zoat · Nov 13, 2020

26th June 2012
14:21 GMT -7

Luna smiles when she sees PCP, goes on smiling when she sees me, and continues smiling with slight strain when she sees Artemis. She slides her paperwork aside with thaumokinesis while getting off her seat and walking around her desk to greet us.

"Grayven, it pleases Us greatly to greet you 'pon this eve."

Oh dear. I'm still not good at pony body language, but if she's doubling down on the archaic speech then she's really unhappy. Quick check. Tail… As down as her tail gets, given its propensity for billowing in ethereal winds. Ears… The left one is reasonably upright, but the right has twitched three times since we entered the room.

O… Kay. While I have explained what happened in the Land of Summer's End, this is the first time that she's actually seen-.

Artemis takes a step forward. "Are you okay?"

"Yes!" Ear twitch. "We are fine." Another ear twitch, and she turns to Pinkie. "Pinkie Pie, there are matters We must discuss with Grayven and Artemis."

"Uh-huh."

PCP smiles at her, perhaps waiting for something actionable. No one ever accused Pinkie Pie of being able to take a hint.

"In private. Without-…" Ear flick and a reconsider. "It would help Us immensely if thou wouldst guard our antechamber against interlopers."

Pinkie sits ramrod straight and salutes. "You can count on me, Princess!"

She turns and trots up to me.

"Either Princess Luna learned Pinkie Sense, or she's really not okay. And if she's learned Pinkie Sense then it's either going to rain toadstools next Wednesday or we're about to be invaded by giant grapefruit."

"And how would toadstools even get into the air?"

She nods. "I'll find the grapefruit knives, you calm Luna down."

"Got it."

She nods, winks, then prances out of the door and shuts it behind her. Luna gives her a moment, then the door frame shimmers in the colour of her magic. Some sort of locking and sound deadening spell, presumably. The mare herself fidgets in place for a moment, then darts towards me and kisses me.

I blink in surprise as I.. try and work out how to better manipulate pony lips. Artemis.. looks away, tossing her tail awkwardly.

I swear, Lantern Grayven, if I have to give you relationship counselling-.

That won't be necessary, Sinestro.

"We think-" Luna prances in place. "-that we-."

I generate construct body cushions, pick Luna up and carry her over to them before depositing her upon them and laying down next to her, my barrel resting against hers. I nod my head at her opposite side and Artemis carefully walks around and lays down next to her.

Luna… Appears to calm down slightly, her head slightly bowed.

"Then… You wish to form a herd?"

Artemis sticks her head up over her. "Ah… What?"

"It is a somewhat dated practice, wherein a marital group would be formed with several mares sharing a stallion. It was only common during periods of warfare, when disabling or fatal injuries were more common amongst the fighting stallions, but it still occurs in modern Equestia and… We suppose that it is better than the other tradition that could apply."

"Okay, first off, I already have a boyfriend."

"That is not without precedent-."

"Secondly, Grayven and I are not seeing each other. We're friends. Good friends who spent a lot of time together."

Luna gives her head a shake, then turns it slightly so she can look at Artemis.

"You are..? But you were-? Grayven hath told Us that neither of you feel right when you are apart."

"Ah…"

I… Just about manage to stretch a wing over Luna's back. "Put it this way. Twilight and the other five are pretty close, right?"

"That is not-."

"Right?"

She ducks her head slightly. "They.. are."

"And they've been on numerous adventures, testing their capacities against the worst the world can throw at them. Right?"

"That is.. so."

"And none of them are romantically involved with any of the others. Are they?"

"None of them are-."

"Are they?"

Luna stays quiet for a moment.

"They are.. not."

"Luna." I nuzzle the top of her head. "I'm going to have female friends, and you're going to have male ones. That doesn't necessarily mean that either of us are planning on expanding our 'paramour cluster'."

Artemis lifts her head so that she can make eye contact over Luna, and mouths 'necessarily?' at me.

"But.. your.. magics are attuned to one another."

"And yours aren't attuned to anyone else?"

"No. Well. We.. are naturally attuned to the magics of Our sister, as we regulate the cycle of day and night."

I widen my eyes. "Gosh. Dare I ask-?"

"We are not-!" She jerks her head away and tries to flutter her wings, but with Artemis and I surrounding her they can't really move. "Involved with our sister!"

"Glad to hear it. I'm also not involved with Artemis. Despite how our magics complement each other, and despite the amount of time we've spent together."

Luna droops slightly. "Ah."

I try to lower myself to show support, but I'm too big to really lower so I just dismiss the cushions underneath me.

"Feeling any better?"

"No. I have behaved like a fool."

"You've behaved like someone who doesn't have a lot of social contacts and was dreadfully afraid of losing one of the few that she does have." Maybe I should have done something about that first? I assumed that the importance of special talents and cutie marks made the job-role more important, but… That could be wrong. I'm trying to help one person here, not learn the fundamental truths of pony psychology. "So I had an idea. I think you should widen your circle of friends in such a way that it doesn't overlap with my circle of friends, because in your mind anything that threatens your relationship with me threatens everything."

"What.. do you have in mind?"

"My colleague Circe is having a bit of a get-together for powerful magic users who are out of the loop on modern thaumaturgy. It's not really my scene, but I thought that perhaps you and Twilight Sparkle might like to attend. Most ancient mages tend to end up a bit cut off from the modern era too; you may have something in common."

Luna raises her head.

"You wish for Us to get out of the castle and make some friends?"

…

"Yeah, I… Guess I… Do. It… Looks like the Elements of Harmony hit me harder than I thought?"

Fellow · Nov 13, 2020

I'm glad to get some clarification on that! It had been bugging me since the kiss thing.

Chirox · Nov 13, 2020

Link to Fimfiction? That one's staying blue.

Darko · Nov 13, 2020

Mr Zoat said:
her desk to great us.

'greet us'

Mr Zoat said:
when disabling or fatal injuries amongst the fighting stallions,

maybe add 'were common' at the end there'

Mr Zoat said:
Good friend who spent a

'friends'

Mr Zoat said:
I widen my eyes. "Gosh. Dare I ask-?"

Wouldn't be the first time you fucked two sisters at the same time.

moralrelativity · Nov 13, 2020

Chirox said:
Link to Fimfiction? That one's staying blue.

Blue?!? You're not using darkmode?!? You... you monster!!

Mr Zoat said:
She slides her paperwork aside with thaumokinesis

I read this as THUMBokinesis. But that works as well.

Mr Zoat said:
"You wish for Us to get out of the castle and make some friends?"

…

"Yeah, I… Guess I… Do. It… Looks like the Elements of Harmony hit me harder than I thought?"

This landed really well with me. Caught me off-guard and I laughed out loud.

RichardWhereat · Nov 13, 2020

moralrelativity said:
Blue?!? You're not using darkmode?!? You... you monster!!

I'm not either. Using Blackened for the orange links, since it's thematic with WTR.

DrThoth · Nov 13, 2020

Thinking back on it, I'd have expected him to miss Lynne a lot more, since she literally shares a soul with him to an extent and he felt the metaphysical rightness of her being with him when they first reunited (though I suppose that connection isn't an absolute thing and thankfully so, given his Anti-Life exposure).

Also thinking about kisses that ultimately didn't go anywhere, any plans for Kaldur to get a romantic interest? His season 3 canon partner Wyynde would integrate into the plot fairly seamlessly (though if Canis gets a de-Apokaliptizing character arc, that would still be my number one choice; I know you previously cited the morality difference as a reason they wouldn't be a thing). I enjoy the Atlantis politics storylines a fair amount, so it could also be a fun personal angle to see him getting involved with a Venturian somehow (and a nice parallel to the potential romance between Clea and his birth father, even though I'm mainly thinking about the Paragon-timeline Kaldur here).

Vaermina · Nov 13, 2020

Mr Zoat said:
"None of them are-."

"Are they?"

Luna stays quiet for a moment.

"They are.. not."

Oh please... None of us actually buy that...

Senevri · Nov 13, 2020

Mr Zoat said:
we're about to be invaded by giant grapefruit."

Eh. Grayven's been called worse, I'm sure.

I'm kinda wondering if there's a pony called "Angel Dust" for some unspecified reason.

Darko · Nov 13, 2020

Senevri said:
I'm kinda wondering if there's a pony called "Angel Dust" for some unspecified reason.

Are you hoping that there's a version of the SI that ended up in the Hazbin Hotel universe?

Because I am.

RichardWhereat · Nov 13, 2020

Darko said:
Are you hoping that there's a version of the SI that ended up in the Hazbin Hotel universe?

Because I am.

As an Angel?

Chojin Patriarch · Nov 13, 2020

Mr Zoat said:
26th June 2012
14:21 GMT -7

Luna smiles when she sees PCP, goes on smiling when she sees me, and continues smiling with slight strain when she sees Artemis. She slides her paperwork aside with thaumokinesis while getting off her seat and walking around her desk to great us.

I wouldn't be surprised to find she's very glad for the interruption to the dreadful grind of paperwork. Though it appears she's feeling just a bit worried about a certain ship...

"Grayven, it pleases Us greatly to greet you 'pon this eve."

Oh dear. I'm still not good at pony body language, but if she's doubling down on the archaic speech then she's really unhappy. Quick check. Tail… As down as her tail gets, given its propensity for billowing in ethereal winds. Ears… The left one is reasonably upright, but the right has twitched three times since we entered the room.

I would honestly not be surprised to find the room temperature dropped a couple of degrees, too.

O… Kay. While I have explained what happened in the Land of Summer's End, this is the first time that she's actually seen-.

Artemis takes a step forward. "Are you okay?"

Ah... The Princess is feeling a little romantically threatened. I expect Grayven to set her, and therefore us, straight.

"Yes!" Ear twitch. "We are fine." Another ear twitch, and she turns to Pinkie. "Pinkie Pie, there are matters We must discuss with Grayven and Artemis."

"Uh-huh."

Not buying a word of it. Thus she ignores the unspoken 'privately'.

PCP smiles at her, perhaps waiting for something actionable. No one ever accused Pinkie Pie of being able to take a hint.

"In private. Without-…" Ear flick and a reconsider. "It would help Us immensely if thou woulds't guard our antechamber against interlopers."

Ah, has she been talking to Twilight about how to handle Pinkies? Because that sounds just a bit Twilight-ish.

Pinkie sits ramrod straight and salutes. "You can count on me, Princess!"

She turns and trots up to me.

"Either Princess Luna learned Pinkie Sense, or she's really not okay. And if she's learned Pinkie Sense then it's either going to rain toadstools next Wednesday or we're about to be invaded by giant grapefruit."

Thank you, Pinkie, for those peculiar mental images. But... Who says Luna's Sense has the same signals as Pinkie's, eh?

Perhaps you should think on that, Pinkemina?

"And how would toadstools even get into the air?"

She nods. "I'll find the grapefruit knives, you calm Luna down."

Yeah, guess which job is going to be easier... Thanks ever so much, Pinkie.

"Got it."

She nods, winks, then prances out of the door and shuts it behind her. Luna gives her a moment, then the door frame shimmers in the colour of her magic. Some sort of locking and sound deadening spell, presumably. The mare herself fidgets in place for a moment, then darts towards me and kisses me.

Oh, yes, she's nervous. You should not feel fearful when kissing a romantic partner... Not unless you have a very, very strange relationship...

I blink in surprise as I.. try and work out how to better manipulate pony lips. Artemis.. looks away, tossing her tail awkwardly.

I swear, Lantern Grayven, if I have to give you relationship counselling-.

Yay, Ringnestro speaks! I was getting worried about him. And you can just tell Artemis really wants to be anywhere else right now, eh?

That won't be necessary, Sinestro.

"We think-" Luna prances in place. "-that we-."

No time to waste, Grayven, sweep that mare off her hooves and snuggle her fear into nothingness!

I generate construct body cushions, pick Luna up and carry her over to them before depositing her upon them and laying down next to her, my barrel resting against hers. I nod my head at her opposite side and Artemis carefully walks around and lays down next to her.

Luna… Appears to calm down slightly, her head slightly bowed.

...That works, but Artemis' involvement... Really sending some odd messages.

"Then… You wish to form a herd?"

Artemis sticks her head up over her. "Ah… What?"

Boy, someone's grabbed the wrong end of the stick here...

"It is a somewhat dated practice, wherein a marital group would be formed with several mares sharing a stallion. It was only common during periods of warfare, when disabling or fatal injuries amongst the fighting stallions, but it still occurs in modern Equestia and… We suppose that it is better than the other tradition that could apply."

Given the apparent male-female ratio seen onscreen, especially in Ponyville, I'm not surprised it's common. Though I expect it takes a certain kind of stallion to handle it...

Lots of stamina, if nothing else.

"Okay, first off, I already have a boyfriend."

"That is not without precedent-."

Oh-ho-ho my.

"Secondly, Grayven and I are not seeing each other. We're friends. Good friend who spent a lot of time together."

Luna gives her head a shake, then turns it slightly so she can look at Artemis.

Nice to have it said straight out, even if Luna clearly finds that hard to believe.

"You are..? But you were-? Grayven hath told Us that neither of you feel right when you are apart."

"Ah…"

I… Just about manage to stretch a wing over Luna's back. "Put it this way. Twilight and the other five are pretty close, right?"

Oooh, good analogy there! I mean, outside of fandom shipping, has there been any real hints of romance amongst the Mane Six? ...No, no need to answer that with wiki links, please...

"That is not-."

"Right?"

Like sisters, naturally. Best friends. Heterosexual life partners. Nakama, if you'll pardon the gratuitous Japanese trope.

She ducks her head slightly. "They.. are."

"And they've been on numerous adventures, testing their capacities against the worst the world can throw at them. Right?"

...What season is this taking place during, again? They've saved the world, what, three or four times outright by now?

"That is.. so."

"And none of them are romantically involved with any of the others. Are they?"

I suppose Luna would be well placed to know, given her access to people's dreamscapes. A little peeking on those deep fantasies would make that clear.

"None of them are-."

"Are they?"

Yes or no, Luna. No 'well, there are some feelings deep down...'

Luna stays quiet for a moment.

"They are.. not."

There.

Was that so hard to admit?

"Luna." I nuzzle the top of her head. "I'm going to have female friends, and you're going to have males ones. That doesn't necessarily mean that either of us are planning on expanding our 'paramour cluster'."

Artemis lifts her head so that she can make eye contact over Luna, and mouths 'necessarily?' at me.

Hey, don't rule things out in future, Arty. Who knows what might happen centuries down the line?

"But.. your.. magics are attuned to one another."

"And yours aren't attuned to anyone else?"

Like, say, a certain sun-butted Princess?

"No. Well. We.. are naturally attuned to the magics of Our sister, as we regulate the cycle of day and night."

I widen my eyes. "Gosh. Dare I ask-?"

Well, that's one way to make her forget her fears. Might be a bit hard on your skull, though.

"We are not-!" She jerks her head away and tries to flutter her wings, but with Artemis and I surrounding her they can't really move. "Involved with our sister!"

"Glad to hear it. I'm also not involved with Artemis. Despite how our magics complement each other, and despite the amount of time we've spent together."

And there we have it, plain and simple. No romance at all. Just two buddies conquering the entirety of future Earth.

Luna droops slightly. "Ah."

I try to lower myself to show support, but I'm too big to really lower so I just dismiss the cushions underneath me.

One of the downsides of 'huge guy, tiny girl', eh? Still, there are other benefits, which you might get to indulge if or when she finally agrees to try human form.

"Feeling any better?"

"No. I have behaved like a fool."

Hey, everyone needs to be a little foolish sometime. If nothing else, you get to bring yourself back down to earth. Just laugh at it with your friends, and move on.

Do expect a little ribbing now and again down the line.

"You've behaved like someone who doesn't have a lot of social contacts and was dreadfully afraid of losing one of the few that she does have." Maybe I should have done something about that first? I assumed that the importance of special talents and cutie marks made the job-role more important, but… That could be wrong. I'm trying to help one person here, not learn the fundamental truths of pony psychology. "So I had an idea. I think you should widen your circle of friends in such a way that it doesn't overlap with my circle of friends, because in your mind anything that threatens your relationship with me threatens everything."

Yes. Everyone needs some friends who they don't have in common with a partner. If only so you can have someone to bitch to about said partner's latest bone-headed stupidity, or commiserate over an argument. Someone who can provide advice with a clear head, or smack you upside the ear and tell you when you're being stupid in love.

"What.. do you have in mind?"

"My colleague Circe is having a bit of a get-together for powerful magic users who are out of the loop on modern thaumaturgy. It's not really my scene, but I thought that perhaps you and Twilight Sparkle might like to attend. Most ancient mages tend to end up a bit cut off from the modern era too; you may have something in common."

Hopefully a chance to meet up with the Renegade-verse's Doctor Mist, amongst others. And who knows, maybe she'll find a pen-pal or something.

Luna raises her head.

"You wish for Us to get out of the castle and make some friends?"

Huh...

…

"Yeah, I… Guess I… Do. It… Looks like the Elements of Harmony hit me harder than I thought?"

Well, it couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.

Good to have that little bit of relationship mystery cleared up once and for all. And a fun chance to tease Luna about her own shipping prospects. I bet there's in-universe fans of the royal sisters who insist they're clearly perfect for each others, and that this 'Grayven' stallion is intruding on pure sisterly romance.

You just know there are...

Darko · Nov 13, 2020

RichardWhereat said:
As an Angel?

More of a serpent demon to be honest.

Or whatever ring color he gets and the Entity that's associated with it.

Darko · Nov 13, 2020

Chojin Patriarch said:
Ah, has she been talking to Twilight about how to handle Pinkies? Because that sounds just a bit Twilight-ish.

Asking an expert is a wise decision.

Chojin Patriarch said:
Hopefully a chance to meet up with the Renegade-verse's Doctor Mist, amongst others.

Seeing as he's been on the side of good and she on the side of evil basically, that may not be true.

There's also his whole non interference thing, which may be something he holds onto a bit more strongly in the renegade side.

Though I could be wrong.

Darko · Nov 13, 2020

Chojin Patriarch said:
I suppose Luna would be well placed to know, given her access to people's dreamscapes. A little peeking on those deep fantasies would make that clear.

Ohh, that can end very, very badly.

Mr Zoat · Nov 13, 2020

Darko said:
'greet us'
maybe add 'were common' at the end there'
'friends'

Thank you, corrected.

Wouldn't be the first time you fucked two sisters at the same time.

True, but they weren't seeing each other first.

DrThoth said:
Also thinking about kisses that ultimately didn't go anywhere, any plans for Kaldur to get a romantic interest? His season 3 canon partner Wyynde would integrate into the plot fairly seamlessly (though if Canis gets a de-Apokaliptizing character arc, that would still be my number one choice; I know you previously cited the morality difference as a reason they wouldn't be a thing). I enjoy the Atlantis politics storylines a fair amount, so it could also be a fun personal angle to see him getting involved with a Venturian somehow (and a nice parallel to the potential romance between Clea and his birth father, even though I'm mainly thinking about the Paragon-timeline Kaldur here).

Wyynde was not seamlessly integrated. Kaldur was barely in series 3, and my response to Wyynde was 'who are you, character we've never seen before? Are you significant in some way?'

Darko said:
Are you hoping that there's a version of the SI that ended up in the Hazbin Hotel universe?

Because I am.

I haven't watched it, so it's pretty unlikely. On other other hand, Oh! My Goddess! crossover likelihood is now at 2%!

FeepingCreature · Nov 13, 2020

moralrelativity said:
I read this as THUMBokinesis. But that works as well.

The most universal form of telekinesis.

"With the power of my mind, I can even manipulate... the location of my digits! Look!!" wiggles thumbs

Mquz · Nov 13, 2020

Senevri said:
Eh. Grayven's been called worse, I'm sure.

I'm kinda wondering if there's a pony called "Angel Dust" for some unspecified reason.

I'm imagining it as pony snowflame. She spreads false happiness with her magic by brainwashing people to always be happy or something. Maybe an evil version of pinkie pie.

Mr Zoat · Nov 13, 2020

Mquz said:
I'm imagining it as pony snowflame. She spreads false happiness with her magic by brainwashing people to always be happy or something. Maybe an evil version of pinkie pie.

I don't think that ponies have a concept of 'angels'.

Pinklestia · Nov 13, 2020

Well Lyne is his daughter but also her own person and... Yeah

Pez · Nov 13, 2020

Chojin Patriarch said:
And there we have it, plain and simple. No romance at all. Just two buddies conquering the entirety of future Earth.

And the heavens weeped, fore all their dreams have been shattered. Their god, the Almighty Zoat, had forsaken them, and friendzoned the two best characters.

I'm sure the stock markets of the world collapsed a bit with this chapter.

Doccer · Nov 13, 2020

Mr Zoat said:
I swear, Lantern Grayven, if I have to give you relationship counselling-.

I'd be more interested in how Sinestro knows how to intimate relationships with ponys.

WereDragon · Nov 13, 2020

Mr Zoat said:
PCP

How naive he is to think the Pinkies don't swap about between scenes just to mess with people.

"We are not-!" She jerks her head away and tries to flutter her wings, but with Artemis and I surrounding her they can't really move. "Involved with our sister!"

Only 643 stories in that group. Somehow I expected more.

"Yeah, I… Guess I… Do. It… Looks like the Elements of Harmony hit me harder than I thought?"

No, you have simply been a benevolent ruler long enough to learn the same lessons as Celestia.

With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Experienced.

Aia airëa Fëanáro.

I trust you know where the happy button is?

Versed in the lewd.

I trust you know where the happy button is?

Versed in the lewd.

Aia airëa Fëanáro.

Dedicated ragequitter

Know what you're doing yet?

Getting out there.

Connoisseur.

Recovering pendant.

Aia airëa Fëanáro.

I trust you know where the happy button is?

Well worn.

Not too sore, are you?

Connoisseur.

Aia airëa Fëanáro.

Veteran Lurker

Connoisseur.

Connoisseur.

Connoisseur.

Dedicated ragequitter

Not too sore, are you?

Versed in the lewd.

Dedicated ragequitter

Well worn.

Spaceman

Versed in the lewd.

Bookwyrm

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