Mr Zoat
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We've seen beams of war and shields, but I don't remember ever seeing counterspelling in MLP:FiM.
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We've seen beams of war and shields, but I don't remember ever seeing counterspelling in MLP:FiM.
Yes, Gotham is a shithole, this is well-known... But hey, it's getting better. ...In Paragon-verse at least. After all, Doctor Gotham's still lurking in Renegade-verse, isn't he?July 3rd 2012, 08:32 GMT -7
I didn't see a lota nature growing up in Gotham. Poison Ivy hadn't taken over Robinson Park yet, but the Falcones already owned the mayor's office and the city council. Money for parks and recreation wasn't exactly high on their priority list. And trips with Dad out to the forest weren't exactly nature walks.
They do make up for the puns of just about every other community in Equestria. I guess the Apple family were feeling a bit burnt out on puns when they founded Ponyville...I don't know if it's because they're ponies or because they haven't industrialised yet, but the ponies have a lot more nature around their towns. Canterlot.. just.. stops once you get off the mountain. And then there's miles of moorland before you get to… This place.
It's called Ponyville. I know I'm just getting a translation from Sunset's spell, but that's not even a pun. It's just 'pony' with 'ville' stuck on the end. We don't have towns called 'Humanville'. Yeah, Grayven said there's a place in England called 'Manchester', and apparently there's some place in Vietnam called 'Hue', but it's not literally every town on the planet.
I mean, I'm sure a Boxing Glove arrow has a very gregarious character. And Flare arrows like it hot? Grapple arrows are clingy? Maybe she should focus on them more."Bit for you thoughts?"
The pink… Ah… Pinkie Pie? I'm guessing this is the local one, but I don't know how Grayven tells them apart. It's probably something to do with him starting to reorganise their government and so counting them as his 'subjects', but arrows don't really have personalities. If I wanted to work out the differences I'd probably need to go hunting with them or something.
Oh, are you in for a treat, honey... And a bit of a headache...I look around the apple orchard.
"How do you pick these without hands?"
Ah, she hasn't learnt the art of communicating with Pinkies yet. Think of your worst Dad jokes. Those will be your basic level of comedy...Pinkie Probably Pie grins, shaking her head, her mane flopping back and forward like its made of rubber. "We don't, silly. How would we pick things without hands?"
…
"I-. With your mouths? That's how most ponies I've seen move stuff."
Makes me honestly wonder what Pony scaffolding looks like... Long spiral ramps?Pinkie Pie frowns. "I think that would bruise the skin. And it would take a really long time. And it would probably make a lot of ponies strain their necks. And have you tried to go up a ladder as a pony? We're really not designed for ladders."
"I guess… Okay, how do you get the apples off the trees?"
Most ponies don't do too great at it either, do they? The Apple family are kind of masters of certain Earth Pony skills, though...Pinkie Pie perks up. "I'll show you!" And then she perks down. "Well, okay, I won't show you, because last time I tried to do it… It didn't go too well. But my friend Applejack can show you!"
"Let's go find Applejack, then."
For reference, that motion is called Pronking (or Stotting, depending on region.) Something many prey quadrupeds do, especially when young. Why? Who knows. Why does Pinkie do it? Because it's fun and cute, duh.Pinkie Pie… Bounces, all four legs acting like springs. Is that something ponies can do? Ponies like Wilson-ponies. I haven't seen any of the others do it, but maybe they just think it looks silly? Or maybe it's really hard? I've gotten the hang of walking with four hooves, but I can't run-. Or.. trot? Yet.
"Hey, do you have deer around here?"
...That is a good question. Don't the local cows talk, or am I misremembering?"Of course not. This is an apple orchard, not a deer orchard." Pinke Pie gasps, then her head twists around like an owl's neck while she keeps bouncing. "Unless they're in disguise!"
"Ah, yeah, no, I meant; can deer talk on this planet? Are they intelligent, like ponies?"
Maybe only quadrupeds of a certain size? Which suggests larger dogs might be capable of it... Someday. And Diamond Dogs don't count, they're basically Kobolds."Wouldn't they be intelligent like deer?"
"That's a tautology. Look, I know gryphons and dragons are as intelligent as ponies, but regular dogs and cats aren't"
Pinkie's having fun messing with her, isn't she? Artemis must make a great straight-pony...
I bet Deer would be proud assholes... Wild Deer can be dicks, I hear."Are deer intelligent like gryphons, dragons and ponies are?"
"I don't know. I've never met a deer. But the only zebra I've met is super-nice, so, maybe?"
There's a scary thought. Imagine Giraffe soldiers, with neck, slung weapons, like huge maces and guillotine blades... Seriously, Giraffes are nasty...
Like trying to describe an elephant to a blind pony... Sort of.Right. Pre-industrial, in the middle of a continent. They probably didn't even have a map of their planet until Grayven gave them one.
"They look sorta like ponies, but a lot bigger and with really long necks. And they've got two little-" I go cross-eyed for a second trying to look at my horn. "-horns on their heads."
They're probably more nomadic, though... Man, this line of thought spawns whole reams of fan-species concepts."Huh. I dunno, but now I really wanna meet one! They probably could pick apples without a ladder!"
"Yeah, probably."
Oh, he has a plan. Just like Celestia, really. Just roll with it, gurl.I don't… I mean, yeah, this place is about as far from the Land of Summer's End as you can get, and I guess Grayven wanted to spend some time with Princess Luna, but I don't.. really…
I don't know why I'm here. I think Grayven wants to put me in a relaxing environment, without all of the people and places I keep thinking I should remember but don't. But I think that's just… Putting it off? If he was just trying to break me out of a 'downward spiral' or something-.
Hey, when you walk around nude, accessories can make your look distinctive and"Hey, AJ!"
A pale orange pony with a.. cowboy hat. Huh? Why would a pony wear a hat to keep the sun off when they're not wearing clothes and they're covered in fur? That-. Anyway, the orange pony with the apple butt tattoo looks up from taken buckets off a cart.
And that's why she wears the cowboy hat. It finishes off that perfect down-home western aesthetic... Surprised Artemis had no comment on the accent."Well hey there Pinkie Pie! Who's yer friend?"
"This is Artey! She came through the magic mirror like Grayven did!"
Ah, she wasn't overly fond of Grayven, was she? Still, she doesn't judge people based on friendships.'AJ' starts looking decidedly less welcoming. "That right."
"Uh-huh! And she wants to know how we get apples off the trees!"
Heh, she's not settling into equine form at all, is she? Not like Grayven, who leapt at the chance to pony it up... Once he could stand unaided."Well, that's easy. We buck 'em."
I frown, and I feel the pull as my horn stops the skin over my forehead moving.
Brace yourself, Arty, this is gonna be fun.
...You know, she could probably learn something from Applejack's ability to eyeball the landing spots of every apple on a tree.Applejack grabs one bucket after another, rapidly tossing them into a rough circle around one of the apple trees. Weird they all stay upright, but I guess the bases are weighted or something?
"Watch real careful, y'all."
<Prepares to Squee>Applejack backs up towards the tree, and it looks like she's carefully judging the distance. So, what, she kicks the tree and the apples fall off? How can that wo-
Next to me, Pinkie Pie inhales deeply, her lungs swelling.
-rk..? Oh, is this one of those song th-?
I'm picturing this as a real drinking song tempo. Easy for a bunch of drunks to sing along to, easy-to-remember chorus and all that."Apple's a yummy, tree-growing fruit!
Bucking them is a bucker's strong suit!
Because you see it's really a breeze!
Pull your legs back and buck all the trees!"
Toldja, Arrow-girl. Get her to teach you that, you'll enjoy yourself.Applejack kinda leans forward, lifts her back legs up and thrusts then into the tree. The tree vibrates, the apples shake, then… Fall… Perfectly into the buckets?
What?
Now I wish I had a tankard of mead to thump on the table... And a good log table to thump it on..."You can buck peaches and you can buck limes!
And you can buck figs if you've got the time!
And if you want to buck down some sloes!
Swing yours legs hard and see how it goes!"
Oh, my. [/takei] Definitely a bawdy drinking song... One for the stallions who like a nice firm flank, eh?Pinkie Pie prances around as Applejack continues buck-.
"Apple's a yummy, tree-growing fruit!
Bucking them is a bucker's strong suit!
Because you see it's really a breeze!
Lift your tail up and buck all the trees!"
Pretty sure they've shown ponies do all of those things in the series, haven't they?Wait. Wait. Lift your-? What's she saying?
"If fruit-bearing trees aren't how you swing!
You can buck just about anything!
Buck on a wood plank to drive in the nails!
Or buck a ship-mast to open the sails!"
Enjoy the nice, cool wind betwixt your nethers, and all that.Is she..?
"Apple's a yummy, tree-growing fruit!
Bucking them is a bucker's strong suit!
Because you see it's really a breeze!
Spread your legs wide and buck all the trees!"
Hah, no bad mood survives exposure to Pinkie Pie. You just know she planned this!
Can you buck in front of other people, I ask? Or is it just a thing between consenting adults?"Buck on a mountain to knock down a rock!
Buck on a tower to start up a clock!
Buck on a stuck pipe to start up a flow!
You can try bucking wherever you go!"
I wonder if an expert Earth pony mage or Alicorn with earth-focused magic could do an entire orchard in one stomp?"Apple's a yummy, tree-growing fruit!
Bucking them is a bucker's strong suit!
Because you see it's really a breeze!
Stretch your haunches and buck all the trees!"
And Pinkie discreetly hoof-pumps with a grin, because of course she meant for that to happen.
Would 'lotta' fit better here? It's the more common usage.
"Bit for your thoughts?"
...forward like it's made of rubber.
...and thrusts them into the tree.
Swing your legs hard and see how it goes!"
Off topic, but for those who wanted to hear the song..
Yes, Gotham is a shithole, this is well-known... But hey, it's getting better. ...In Paragon-verse at least. After all, Doctor Gotham's still lurking in Renegade-verse, isn't he?
Also Poison Ivy still has her powers and because renegade doesn't live there people may be more inclined to commit crimes, unlike in the paragon side where Paul's presence has become a deterrent.
Perhaps "Some mortals"? Grayven seem to be stating a fact, not making a deduction.So mortals long accustomed to divine power can become aware of us, though I've yet to see one with any degree of true insight.
What sadistic and or moronic individual decided to let Pinkie of all ponies play tour-guide? Trying to get useful info out of Pinky is like trying to pick splinters out of a chainsaw.
What sadistic and or moronic individual decided to let Pinkie of all ponies play tour-guide?
Come now, you should know by now that, if you're prone to literal spit-takes that you should refrain from any sort of drinking while reading an update to this story.
*winces* lost a razor keyboard that way once smelt horrible!As a man who accidentally spilled some milk on his laptop I can safely say that it is a bad idea to keep liquids near a computer.
Hmm I wonder if Arty will put any thought into Pinkie Pie's suggestion... following Grayven's example by bucking Applejack could help her mental health!
I mean yes? Quite rude to just toss it out there. I mean if figuring the "riddle" out was a challenge, you could just PM him.Is it really even doxing, even halfway, if the information was provided by Zoat?
Thank you, corrected.Corrections:
Would 'lotta' fit better here? It's the more common usage.
"Bit for your thoughts?"
...forward like it's made of rubber.
...and thrusts them into the tree.
Swing your legs hard and see how it goes!"
Did he? I don't remember that.He did try to take away her family's farm.
Would you be fond of someone if they did that?
They communicated a summary of what happened with a minimum of difficulty.
We've seen beams of war and shields, but I don't remember ever seeing counterspelling in MLP:FiM.
Yeah, Artemis, why are you here?I don't… I mean, yeah, this place is about as far from the Land of Summer's End as you can get, and I guess Grayven wanted to spend some time with Princess Luna, but I don't.. really…
I don't know why I'm here. I think Grayven wants to put me in a relaxing environment, without all of the people and places I keep thinking I should remember but don't. But I think that's just… Putting it off? If he was just trying to break me out of a 'downward spiral' or something-.
Thank you, corrected.Perhaps "Some mortals"? Grayven seem to be stating a fact, not making a deduction.
I'm afraid so.'were a fake'
'wrong'
Unless this is just her way of speaking.
"Some time away"?And before you say she should just interact with her former friends and just do that with no therapy or anything else like you previously did, try to remember that when she tried to do that it didn't exactly lead to a lot of positive interaction, so some time away from them may do her some good.
Asking people why they think that they're doing things is one of my techne."
And it's not supposed to. The Renegade has no interest in her going back to being teenager Artemis, and would regard it as a massive backwards step. He's putting her in a friendly but alien environment in the hope that she'll start feeling better about who she is now."Some time away"?
I think she's had quite enough time away, or did you somehow miss that entire story arc?
Spending 'time away' from her home and her family and all of her friends is the entire cause of the problem to begin with.
It is not the solution.
At best it's a stalling tactic, at worst it might actually make things worse as she comes to associate more closely with Ponyville aliens than her own people.
Artemis says it herself in this chapter, taking her away from the world that she needs to refamiliarize herself with is only delaying the inevitable, and the only reason she can think of to do so would be if she was on some sort of downward spiral and needed a break.
... except, we haven't seen that, because we haven't seen much of her at all while she reacclimatises.
Yeah, things were pretty uncomfortable for her meeting with Wally and before the debriefing with batman, but that's a single day.
We don't know how indicative that is of a larger trend, or of whether she actually did begin a downward spiral because we've timeskipped from the start of May to the start of July.
Anyway, reacclimatization isn't going to become less uncomfortable by avoiding it. The only solution is to get stuck in there, sit down with your former friends and talk, bring up old missions or events and see if they can get her to remember.
Do memory association.
If she can remember going to Atlantis (which seems like a fairly safe pick, since it's an underwater city that's probably nothing like anything else she's ever seen on either planet) then that might jog her memory about Kaldur, which could lead to his actions during team events, which could trigger memories of the rest of her friends.
Leaving right away as soon as things get tough isn't any kind of solution. You've gotta get stuck in there and talk to people.
Fucking off to an alien planet far away from everyone you know isn't a solution, That's what caused the problem to begin with.
And no, I didn't say "No Therapy" Therapy would be very helpful.
I said no pony-therapy, because they're obviously going ot be useless for that.
Most of them have the mental complexity of small children, and those that don't are still total aliens.
They don't know shit about humans, or human psychology, or new god psychology, for that matter.
Their actions and minds are pretty alien, and they don't know anything about her or her friend-group, which makes them totally useless for her purposes.
Sitting down with Black Canary (even tho she's just a florist) could be more helpful because atleast she's aware of who the people Artemis is trying to remember ARE, and she knows some of the missions and events that they undertook together.
Artemis might remember who Black Canary is at some point, and that will be a measurable step forwards.
That's way more than any therapy-horse can provide.
I think she's had quite enough time away, or did you somehow miss that entire story arc?
Anyway, reacclimatization isn't going to become less uncomfortable by avoiding it. The only solution is to get stuck in there, sit down with your former friends and talk, bring up old missions or events and see if they can get her to remember.
Leaving right away as soon as things get tough isn't any kind of solution. You've gotta get stuck in there and talk to people.
I said no pony-therapy, because they're obviously going ot be useless for that.
Most of them have the mental complexity of small children, and those that don't are still total aliens.
They don't know shit about humans, or human psychology, or new god psychology, for that matter.
Their actions and minds are pretty alien, and they don't know anything about her or her friend-group, which makes them totally useless for her purposes.
Way off base. "Wynne" is a respelling of "Nguyen," because he'd made a point about how weird it was that a name pronounced "win" would be spelled like that. (Obviously he gets that it's a particular romanization scheme, but why would you design a romanization scheme that doesn't produce words that are pronounced how they're spelled?)Also, in retrospect, Peter Wynne was another clue. Appropriating part of his last name in a way that he could speak, but to us (and Batman), just sounded like he was having a bit of fun with the Rich Capitalist Archetype, and maybe poking fun at Batman/Wayne
Missing full stop."That's a tautology. Look, I know gryphons and dragons are as intelligent as ponies, but regular dogs and cats aren't"
Unless this is quoting some existing material, I think "Stretch out your haunches" would fit the meter better.[/QUOTE]