BartlettMagic
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is it wrong of me to be more concerned for Lantern Gozzi's wellbeing than OL's?
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Depends how you mean 'wrong'. Being more worried for a junior who might not know how to survive rather than a veteran who you might expect to be able to handle things isn't particularly unreasonable. If it helps, Lantern Gozzi's about half way across the system and while qwa-matter weapons are potent they're more 'intense' than 'expansive'.is it wrong of me to be more concerned for Lantern Gozzi's wellbeing than OL's?
qwa-matter weapons are potent they're more 'intense' than 'expansive'
Has Wonder Woman ever used the qwa-sword Paragon gifted her with
Gods no. 'Hey, Diana! Here's a sword from a people who worship an evil God of Destruction. Ain't it neat!'Has Wonder Woman ever used the qwa-sword Paragon gifted her with?
Pretty well. It will have better long term performance away from Earth. Broadly comparable against anything other than high-end arcane foes otherwise.How does it compare with the magical god-crafted weapons she should have access to?
No, but they'll have them available if she asks.Has Hephaestus or Io forged her an even more potent new weapon taking advantage of the arcanotech revolution?
Pretty well. It will have better long term performance away from Earth.
Answers below are provisional and somewhat off the cuff.That's something I was curious about, the performance of magic materials and equipment away from thaumically active places. Paragon traded some oricalchum early on in his space exploits, I believe. Exactly how long would they last in magic-poor settings?
Is New God tech different in this regard because of their reliance on their Source?
I'm also wondering about arcane-based life forms like Nabu, Diana and Captain Marvel and Adom.
I'm not sure if it's a problem on my end or not, but this is in a smaller font and bolded.
Given that the Qwa matter was in orange, I'm not entirely sure that it was even something that was being done to OL.I wish there were some meaningful consequences for Paul here, but no only Grayven seems to get those, ten bucks says Paul bounces back from this in less than 3 chapters, any takers?
I'm reading this differently than everybody else I guess. I'm not seeing "Oh fuck" I'm seeing "I WANT IT"
That's intentional.I'm not sure if it's a problem on my end or not, but this is in a smaller font and bolded.
It's meant to be a warning from his ring.I'm reading this differently than everybody else I guess. I'm not seeing "Oh fuck" I'm seeing "I WANT IT"
Three words.I wish there were some meaningful consequences for Paul here, but no only Grayven seems to get those, ten bucks says Paul bounces back from this in less than 3 chapters, any takers?
People notice when a character never looses...I swear, every time OL does literally anything and doesn't get his ass kicked, people bitch.
He lost Jade: Big whoop, cost him nothing really.
He got anti-lifed: He got better.
He's basically killed and smashed through his every opposition and is arguably even farther along with his uplift than OL is. He's achieved pretty much every goal he's set for himself and is roaring forward
Hard disagree. This confuses ability with effectiveness.Yeah. This seems central to the criticism to me. Greed seems to be interpreted here as something that makes SI feel better.
It made some sense with the team where he regarded them as "his" despite how creepy that was. But now it is being extended to larger causes that he cant possibly actually posess. Instead he imposes his desired order and that somehow counts when that feels more like Will.
The weaknesses of the orange light are completely purged. There is little to no downside to it.
What setbacks? He's gotten everything he's wanted in short order. He's wiped out and taken over the Light, seemingly killed Vandal Savage, has Luthor right where he wants him, and is currently way farther into his uplift then OL is.Not without setbacks, not without personal loss, and not without heartbreak...and not without growing as a person, Grayven feels much more satisfying to watch because he struggles, because while he's achieved every goal he's set for himself, it feels like he earned it, and when he half asses or takes a shortcut? It bites him in the ass and forces him to settle the issue and learn, Paul feels like a very static character ever since the 'Enlightenment' it never feels like Paul has to work for his goals in a truly meaningful way beyond Lemme just use more orange light with no drawbacks whatsoever, lemme just do this thing and watch everyone bend over backwards for me. Grayven struggles, Grayven doubts, and Grayven has something Paul doesn't. A Circle of Friends, and Family that actually convey the feeling of being important to him.
And where does Grayven fit on the team he officially walked away from? The one he constantly belittled and mutated with his Father/Mother box? Speaking of Belittled, Grayven can't go five seconds without being an utter dick to the Justice league. OL at least has friendships among them and the team. He at least tries to be polite. Grayven just goes "You're a stupid stupid-head who is stupid."With the way Paul has moved on? He doesn't belong with The Team, and there's nothing they can provide that he can't just Power Ring his way to do better, and honestly some of his interactions feel incredibly belittling.
What consequences? What are you actually talking about? The fact that his dumb choices get him beaten up for a few pages before he wins? At this point he's manipulated at least 2 worlds to get outcomes that he wants. Got nuked on the Justice Lord's world, and got everything he wanted. He's killed multiple Lords of Chaos at this point. He's alienated the team, took over the Light, alienated the Justice League, toppled a country or two and hasn't had a single backfire except that his Assassin girlfriend dumped him.Grayven's actions have Consequences, and he works to rise above them and Conquer them.
I feel no tension with Grayven. He's eyerollingly comic-book-y. I should also point out that Grayven has won all the same battles as OL has. Actually, he's won MORE. OL's Unmen chapter went bad, the Light is still out there, and so on.
Because OL hasn't had emotional moments at all? The merging with the Ophidian, the rampant paranoia when taking off his ring to use the toilet nearly got him killed, failing to convince Lex and so on.Also when Jade dumped Grayven? He was heartbroken, he was depressed, he threw himself into his work and has been afraid to open up like that to another person since.
I will again point out. Ponies.When he got Anti-Lifed? Sure, he has since recovered, but it threatened everything he held dear in such a way that it couldn't be dealt with just by applying more Orange Light, he nearly lost his ability to appreciate what truly mattered to him, and he couldn't live with that, so yes, he rushed to fix himself, but not for his own sake, but for that of those he loved and found he couldn't, and even then it wasn't a perfect fix, even now what happened has changed him as a person.
Grayven being incompetent at that moment, having been a dick around Alan and alienated him rather then inspiring him like OL did, is hardly a knock against OL. After all, it wasn't like Grayven had the same relationship with Alan that OL did.And Grayven lost Alan, one of the biggest reasons he went to space...was to get him a new lantern, and when he came back...Alan had died two months earlier, that had it's own impact on him.
Who is talking to OL, why are they talking to OL, and more importantly how are they talking to OL?
This Just In from The Onion: British Man Commits Suicide after being sentenced to reread his own fanfiction. All of it, from the beginning.
And yet the love between them is no lie, the lengths he'll go to for them isn't a lie. The Persona and Identity has merged with who he was, but that doesn't make the emotional bond they have any less true, the fear he had when he realized that his ability to return the love they had for him was severed, broken by the Anti-Life...and he knew he should have had for them was true, you might not be able to take it seriously because of the ponies but just because his identity is a lie that even he now believes, doesn't mean what he's done is false. He isn't Grayven son of Darkseid, but he's a New God of Conquest all the same.Ace? Is adopted Not-Daughter? His vampire monsters and ponies? He's flat out lying to all of them. Every word out of his mouth as "Grayven" is a lie. The memories and such things implanted by Father box.
Someone from the Reach. Exactly who isn't clear.Who is talking to OL, why are they talking to OL, and more importantly how are they talking to OL?
Who is talking to OL, why are they talking to OL, and more importantly how are they talking to OL?
Because there was never an incoming transmission message from the ring OL told the ring to put through, so it kind of feel like some disembodied voice whisper in OL's ear to taunt him. You know, while OL in the vacuum of space fighting the space baddies. Or they can hack the ring communication systems somehow guess.
That's not yellow. If the shields were concealing Qua matter, wouldn't it be yellow? Are we sure it's the Reach who have the qua matter here?
"Purple rays are magic-based. As far as I can tell, it won't work as well away from a source of magic." I shrug. "Sorry."
I went looking, and yeah this seems like the first time Paragon has ever used a Purple Death Ray. I also found this:
This could mean they were modified to work better, or more depressingly, magical things that can be used to hurt instead of heal somehow function better in outer space.
Though Paragon has used Purple Ray's in space before and I think Zoat mentioned that while they can work in a low magic environment, they're still not as good as they would be in a magical environment.
Or it could be to a similar reason why New God technomagic works- The New Gods power it themselves, so the lack of ambient magic isn't a big issue.
So it may be that Paul can use it in outer space because his aura has reached the point where he can power it himself without the aid of ambient magical energy.
I mean, that's basically originally what it was.Just hit me. Everything about Grayven feels like goofball Filler. I finally can put a label on it.