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Actually yes. I do have some idea. Hence why I'm poking at the character and not the author.Dude, that's because of out of character shit. Do you have any idea how hard it is crafting level appropriate adventures for someone with OL specs?
It was a jacked up Pidgeon of war, and by the end it was questionable whether the leadership above whoever Boss Smiley was impersonating even knew what was going on. Or cared for that matter.
OL has already poked the Greek and Norse Gods, and Gravyen took a Zeus bolt to the skull. I will not ascribe any more power or importance to the abrahamic deity then they get.
The fact remains that NOTHING OL did that entire arc mattered. Meanwhile, Harm, a guy he actually beat once, was flattening Silver City forces left and right.
I barely understand why OL bothers with having a power ring any longer. Minus it's ease of use. I do take solace in his armor actually mattering.
I so loathe the "armor is useless" trope.
Magic has been shown to be the most powerful force in the universe, and even something as mundane as Telekinesis has consistently outperformed him. Being the thing that actually won the day in this very fight.
The Abrahamic deity has been hinted at being pretty much the source (or a fragment of it) hasn't it?
I do not know. On a personal note however, I will reject that notion. WoZ may be different.The Abrahamic deity has been hinted at being pretty much the source (or a fragment of it) hasn't it?
I'm fairly certain he fought Harm before that. Once when Hell attacked him and the Hawks while at their home. I could be misremembering, but I recall OL killing Harm. I think also fought before Harm went to hell. Could be wrong.I don't remember OL flat out beating harm didn't OL just manage to run away after being sucked into hell during the Lazarus pit experiments? maybe in the devil jizz arc? but that was before he started industrializing for war with said silver city, Harem was levelling himself in anti-angel abilities for months and then he could counter them.
I don't...remember seeing that much outcome occuring. The War Pidgoen smacked him around, then smacked him around some more, then denied him like...everything, chased him to hell and easily killed him in close range.I'd say a fair amount of what he did mattered in that arc, he opened negotiations with hell, planted seeds of doubt in the faith of the silver city and reduced and personally crippled a number of angels.
I would probably enjoy seeing that.Yeah he's poked fun at Greek and Norse gods he never outright beat them or fought them, Grayven took a hit from Zeus because of New god tech armour not just straight on the skull if Zeus god serious and came down from Olympus Grayven would get smited. (however much I love the best dad)
Magic has been shown to utterly shit on EVERYTHING that isn't other magic. I don't recall a single instance of magic losing to anything else. Nabu for instance smacked the shit out of everyone, including Adom, and only lost because of some John Constantine fuckery beforehand.Magic in this universe was destroyed (by a large extent) by the guardians, wasn't it? (I might be misremembering that) anyway, Magic is not an auto-win button different levels of magic can lose to higher levels of tech or biology in specific circumstances.
Well yes, Magic IS the most powerful force in the universe thus far.Effigy is better at telekinesis than OL is at magic, on that count new goddess of magic Zatanna would probably stomp him.
Magic has been shown to utterly shit on EVERYTHING that isn't other magic. I don't recall a single instance of magic losing to anything else. Nabu for instance smacked the shit out of everyone, including Adom, and only lost because of some John Constantine fuckery beforehand.
He has a power ring! Why does he need loads and loads of all this other shit?Hell, if OL was given or used weapons that actually did something I'd be pretty happy, but it looks more like he got hit with the nerf bat than his enemies being demonstrably stronger.
At which point there will be much wailing and gnashing of teeth that OL is suddenly OP, of course.Honestly I dont want OL to be OP just....increased in power a little bit for what he "supposedly" can do...
Oh, the episodes are generally fine. Zoat's quality is very impressive considering his update schedule.I think the episode on Thangar went well, though combat wasn't the point in that one
I do not know. On a personal note, however, I will reject that notion. WoZ may be different.
Also, though OL has been raptured by Harm's looks twice I believe, he's still just Harm, not Harem
I don't...remember seeing that much outcome occurring. The War Pidgeon smacked him around, then smacked him around some more, then denied him like...everything, chased him to hell and easily killed him in close range.
Point being, that I, personally, do not ascribe more importance to the Abrahamic god over the rest. The very idea offends me. Greatly.
Magic has been shown to utterly shit on EVERYTHING that isn't other magic. I don't recall a single instance of magic losing to anything else. Nabu for instance smacked the shit out of everyone, including Adom, and only lost because of some John Constantine fuckery beforehand.
Well yes, Magic IS the most powerful force in the universe thus far.
Heh, now even the Maltusians are vouching for him.Jevek turns in my direction, his face still betraying no expression. "They wish to destroy this armour rather than study it. The dispute was over whether you could have defeated Devlos Ungol without Effigy. Among other things, we now believe that you could."
Didn't Hinon say that magic was basically non-functional (or at least far weaker) off of Earth?Magic has been shown to be the most powerful force in the universe, and even something as mundane as Telekinesis has consistently outperformed him. Being the thing that actually won the day in this very fight.
but magic is controlled manaDidn't Hinon say that magic was basically non-functional (or at least far weaker) off of Earth?
Variably weaker, I think. Earth seems to be a place where magic is much easier/more powerful than average, rather than the only place it works well, IIRC.Didn't Hinon say that magic was basically non-functional (or at least far weaker) off of Earth?
Probably. Though, that'd be the ONLY thing it has working against it at this point.Didn't Hinon say that magic was basically non-functional (or at least far weaker) off of Earth?
but magic is controlled mana
and mana = life
how would it not work off world ?
"They wish to destroy this armour rather than study it. The dispute was over whether you could have defeated Devlos Ungol without Effigy. Among other things, we now believe that you could."
You may want to read his wiki page.Shouldn't that be in Violet, because he is a Zamaron, not a Guardian?
It is entirely possible that the problem isn't OL's power, but OL himself. WoZ has been that OL "doesn't like to break things" and doesn't really have a mindset for fighting.In-Universe proof that OL could have handled it. Hopefully we can agree that OL isn't being smacked around with no problem anymore. He just needed to find the right approach to use against his enemy, and Paul has a lot of options.
Jevek, if I remember right, is the Controller who made Effigy. I suspect that he was arguing that Effigy's presence was critical, or at least relevant.
That is an established thing. One of the things Mother of Mercy showed OL during his lotus eater illusion was something to spread the range of magic to a space station. I believe it was called something like a yggdrassil root or seed?
Jevek, if I remember right, is the Controller who made Effigy. I suspect that he was arguing that Effigy's presence was critical, or at least relevant.
Cause earth is where the life entity currently is, iirc. So since mana=life and the embodiment of life is on earth, earth has way more mana than it shouldbut magic is controlled mana
and mana = life
how would it not work off world ?
but magic is controlled mana
and mana = life
how would it not work off world ?