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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Would you call a baby a sociopath because it only cared about its own interests?

A baby doesn't have all the stuff that Match currently has, like basic knowledge, developed motor-coordination and language.

A baby is barely a person, Match is like a person with pieces missing.

Not his fault, of course, but still concerning.
 
Thank you, corrected.

Sort of. If he was actually 16 years old and was still acting like this, that would be a reasonable description. He's actually only had a few hours of actually living, and a good chunk of that involved him having a serious neurological condition. Would you call a baby a sociopath because it only cared about its own interests?
Considering if you remove the instinctual moral reputation boost that comes with the word? Yes.
Babies are beings who have only the slightest hints of something that could maybe resemble a morality system if you're rather dull.
If you look at it normally they are essentially unformed masses of desires with no mental fetters to tie them down yet. A mindless monster who will do as its instincts command it with no regard for anything else held back only by its weak body, and lack of understanding of.. well anything.
Match is at the same time less and more of a monster than most babies.
 
Ho boy. So Match, right now, is basically a sociopath? No way that could go wrong.

Not a sociopath just confused as hell because he is basically "new" and doesn't have any real life experiences besides that fight before.

Is the equivalent of someone waking up from a coma with missing memories.
 
Thank you, corrected.

Sort of. If he was actually 16 years old and was still acting like this, that would be a reasonable description. He's actually only had a few hours of actually living, and a good chunk of that involved him having a serious neurological condition. Would you call a baby a sociopath because it only cared about its own interests?

Babies are EVIL, so yes.
 
Whenever I see a tradition that I think seems kinda silly, I just remember that the country of tea-drinking, tophat-and-tailored-suit wearing gentlemen... have morris dancing.

Whatever a book's cover may be, you're definitely gonna find a weird chapter or two inside of it.

There are around 150 Morris sides (or teams) in the United States. There are isolated groups in other countries, for example those in Utrecht and Helmond, Netherlands; the Arctic Morris Group of Helsinki, Finland and Stockholm, Sweden; as well as in Cyprus.

Not just our weird shit

Also, its a holdover from a 1500s fashion for Spanish and Italian "Moorish" dancing.
 
Sort of. If he was actually 16 years old and was still acting like this, that would be a reasonable description. He's actually only had a few hours of actually living, and a good chunk of that involved him having a serious neurological condition. Would you call a baby a sociopath because it only cared about its own interests?

A baby doesn't have all the stuff that Match currently has, like basic knowledge, developed motor-coordination and language.

A baby is barely a person, Match is like a person with pieces missing.

Not his fault, of course, but still concerning.

Not a sociopath just confused as hell because he is basically "new" and doesn't have any real life experiences besides that fight before.

Is the equivalent of someone waking up from a coma with missing memories.
Actually, I'd say that a better parallel would be to a domestic fox bought as a pet from the Russian breeding program. Those animals are healthy, normal individuals (albeit selectively bred for tameness), and sold as young adults; however, they've lived their lives, up to that point, mostly in cages and other enclosures, and have never been socialized. While they are friendly and tame, their new owner will have to spend a great deal of time socializing them and, essentially, teaching them how to be foxes (or, probably more accurately, how to be dogs) before they're ready to be allowed to, say, roam the house freely during a party. Match is healthy, physically and mentally, but he's at a young adult stage of physical development without having any past socialization; he needs time and exposure to understanding persons to learn how to be human. Er, Kryptonian. Whichever--he needs time and exposure to mature emotionally.

(If domestic foxes are a little too esoteric an example for you, a few years ago, my parents adopted a pair of corgis who were rescued from being breeding stock at a puppy mill. Much like the domestic foxes, they were normal young adult dogs, but had spent their entire lives living in cages and had never been socialized, so it was a fairly long and difficult process to teach them how to be dogs. They did become well-socialized, however, and while one of them eventually had to be put down because he had developed a neurological disorder that resulted in severe seizures, the other is still perfectly healthy and the sweetest dog you'll ever meet.)
 
I jut drove through Rifle Colorado and let me tell you it is not large. It is pretty close to the middle of nowhere, just down the road there is a highway exit with a sine labeled "No name, no services" I'm guessing that's were the secret mountain fortress is.
 
I jut drove through Rifle Colorado and let me tell you it is not large. It is pretty close to the middle of nowhere, just down the road there is a highway exit with a sine labeled "No name, no services" I'm guessing that's were the secret mountain fortress is.

Not that secret, under the Challengers it was basically a theme park.

In one Challengers miniseries they where they were basically the Kardassians of heroism- cartoons, breakfast cereals, movies, halloween costumes, the vast majority of it celebrating adventures that mostly never happened. Multi-Man had a full head of hair, a normal sized head, and apparently no immortality, so that series was in it's own continuity, though.
 
Not that secret, under the Challengers it was basically a theme park.

In one Challengers miniseries they where they were basically the Kardassians of heroism- cartoons, breakfast cereals, movies, halloween costumes, the vast majority of it celebrating adventures that mostly never happened. Multi-Man had a full head of hair, a normal sized head, and apparently no immortality, so that series was in it's own continuity, though.

I like how fucking Destiny of the Endless for some reason couldn't pick up on random celebrities from Earth who did extreme sports.

Fucking Life Entity.
 
Difficulty (part 17)
Difficulty

Day 97
17:05 GMT -5


Kalibak flares his nostrils expansively as Ms Selton sprints down a side street towards a burning building. His eyes then shift to the fallen Star Sapphire and Mr Doe.

"Pathetic."

For a moment, Ms Willis looks a little less confident. Then she recovers with a jaunty smile, electricity crackling around her fists. "You want first crack at-"

Kalibak's right hand twitches, and a manhole cover embeds itself in the armour covering my face. I surge left across the street and he slams into the space I was standing, the road surface cratering around his fists and the shock cracking the tarmac all around him!

"-him? Oh, guess you-"

Construct shields block the chunks of concrete Kalibak hurls at me.

"-do."

More electricity arcs my way, once again failing to make contact. Didn't she used to be able to control all electronics in Metropolis? No, not important. Weak to water, and any modern city has gallons of the stuff a little way underground in pipes and hydrants. Kalibak-.

His right fist crushes my construct shield and I back up again, an energy pulse fired at his eyes merely making him blink hard as he barrels forward! I create a frictionless construct beneath his feet as I evade once again, and he-

"Ooof!"

-falls on his face. Okay, I think Ms Willis is the larger threat to the city. Master, locate water pipe.

Data available.

I blink, and green lines showing me where pipes lie under the road appear in my visual field. Good show. I fly at Ms Willis as Kalibak picks himself up, surrounding her with a bubble construct before she can transubstantiate.

"Let me out!"

Her eyes go white as her body is surrounded by electrical discharges, turning the inside of my construct into a plasma ball. Which is an apt comparison, because if-

Bullets ping off my construct armour. I ignore them.

-she puts enough power into it the air in there will turn into plasma, and there's a distinct limit to the level of plasma pressure I can contain. Hydrant, hydrant, there! I-. I don't slam her into it hard enough to rupture the metal, but instead use her to block a lump of masonry as Kalibak renews his attack. The construct cracks-

"Yeah! Like that!"

-while I open the hydrant and connect a construct hose to it before sticking the nozzle end of the hose into-

"yAAAAAGHH!"

-the construct bubble. Ms Willis shakes violently for a moment as if being electrocuted, then slumps bonelessly to the bottom of the bubble. Hm. It should be possible to contain her by keeping a small portion of her body in water at all times-. Not relevant. I never found out exactly how long she stayed unconscious for, earthing her just gives her an escape route and given how wildly she can arc I doubt that a Faraday cage would achieve much. Just dump-?

Kalibak slams into my armour!

"And now I have you!"

He grips the construct armour around my head, which immediately begins fracturing! I focus on it, dropping Ms Willis to the floor as I stop focusing on her prison. Water sprays across the street as-

"Rrrrraaaaawhh!"

-Kalibak exerts himself. Okay, Kalibak, weaknesses. Superman. Not helpful. Radion. Master?

Data not available.

Ah… Looks like he's breathing-.

Splitting focus unaided with a green ring is not a good idea, and the difficulty involved probably explains why John Stewart likes to keep things simple. Master?

An image of a suit of Qwardian power armour appears in my mind along with a simple hose.

"Ugh."

Kalibak grunts as he tries to squeeze the now far harder plate armour, his fingers barely making an impression. In the meantime I get the hose construct into position…

And clamp it over his mouth.

His eyes boggle as high pressure water roars down his throat, displacing air as it fills his lungs. My construct over his mouth and nose prevents him from clearing his airways, and while I don't know how often he usually needs to breathe this isn't a matter of just holding his breath. He's got no air in there to hold onto. With growing desperation he gives up on squeezing and just grabs onto the hose with both hands, falling off me and onto the street as he tries to pull it off him. It takes him a moment to achieve his objective, then he rolls onto his front and starts vomiting up water in a frantic attempt to clear his lungs.

So I restore the hose construct, shifting position as he reels back and shooting him in the eyes to try and keep him distracted. Yes… Working. He's still trying to get the hose off but his tugs are weakening. Keep it up

Kalibak, son of Darkseid, collapses back onto the pavement.

I have Master count a full minute before removing the hose and hoiking him into the air and letting the water run out.

Huh.

I look around. Windows and vehicles are smashed and a few buildings are going to need structural repairs… There are probably bodies in there, but I can't hear any more explosions. If this is all of the supervillains who were taking part in the attack -barring Ms Selton- then paramedics and other aid workers can get in there now.

Master, location of nearest-.

Another round of bullets ping off my construct armour, and I turn to see a Metropolis SWAT team laying down suppressing fire at me while one of their colleagues brings up an anti-armour missile launcher. Looks like the League hasn't managed to reach them. I pointedly raise my hands, construct reaching out to pick up each of my fallen foes in turn.

They fire the missile anyway, but I block it with Kalibak so no harm done.

"Excuse me! Do you have the facilities to hold these people?!"

They freeze in apparent confusion, but I see someone with a corporal's markings activate their radio.

"Maybe I should take over from here?"

I look left-.

"Superman?"

My charges fall to the ground, and I'm only just able to react to get a crashmat construct under Star Sapphire. Superman… Is… Now sporting a beard and.. decidedly barbarian-looking clothing, complete with a sword strapped to his back.

I don't-.

The slave-animal will gather combat data on the kryptonian.

No. I won't.

"I'm a little surprised to see you here."

"The.. League will be here shortly, it was just.. quicker for me. And I.. do owe you for your help. But-" I glance at the police position as Margaret Sawyer cautiously comes forward. "-it.. might be best if I do let you take over." He nods. "I'm.. glad that you're not dead."

"You and me both." He looks around at the damage and sighs quietly. "I don't suppose I could talk you into sticking around to help with repairs, could I? I know you've already paid me back-."

"Yes. Yes, of course. I didn't-. This isn't quid pro quo, when you died… I worked through the pain to.. be able to do this. I don't want to.. go back to.. how I was living. Whatever you need, I'll do it."

He smiles. "I'm glad to hear it. I'll settle things with Maggie, and then… I've got some business to take care of."
 
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Superman… Is… Now sporting a beard and.. decidedly barbarian-looking clothing, complete with a sword strapped to his back.
Link is dead. You may want to reupload images you use to a stable host like imgur.

https://www.deviantart.com/alexbadass/art/Bearded-Superman-600295392
https://i.imgur.com/R0maiwA.png

Pretty much everything I know about DC is from With This Ring, but I've heard about multiple evil Supermans appearing after his death. Is that what's going on?

Edit: Nevermind
 
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Honestly surprised to see AGL back so soon. Now this is just building up the suspense/speculation of what Paragon!Match will be like. He kind of reminds me of Goliad from Adventure Time. A powerful creature with absolutely no life experience and is being taught how to live by the protagonists. Hopefully Superman and the Team won't screw it up like Jake screwed up Goliad.
 
Pretty much everything I know about DC is from With This Ring, but I've heard about multiple evil Supermans appearing after his death. Is that what's going on?
Nope. It's a plot from DCAU, where Superman gets zapped into a post-apocalyptic future where he has to work with Vandal Savage to send himself back in time to prevent Savage's past self from accidentally causing said apocalypse. The barbarian look is because the post-apocalyptic future has a red sun.
 
Link is dead. You may want to reupload images you use to a stable host like imgur.

Pretty much everything I know about DC is from With This Ring, but I've heard about multiple evil Supermans appearing after his death. Is that what's going on?

In the DCAU, which this timeline is in, Toyman did not actually kill Superman, just sent him to the far future to an earth mostly empty of life aside from Vandal Savage. Superman eventually makes it back to the past, and since there was a major lack of hygiene items, had a beard when he got home.
 
Link is dead. You may want to reupload images you use to a stable host like imgur.

https://www.deviantart.com/alexbadass/art/Bearded-Superman-600295392
https://i.imgur.com/R0maiwA.png

Pretty much everything I know about DC is from With This Ring, but I've heard about multiple evil Supermans appearing after his death. Is that what's going on?
I can second that recommendation. Imgur is more-or-less tied to/is a major social media platform, but is still mainly a image hosting site, and doesn't have all that much that gets in the way of it. It's free, it's works better than photobucket, and it's less likely to up and die a few years down the road.
 
-Kalibak exerts himself. Okay, Kalibak, weaknesses. Superman. No helpful. Radion. Master?
Wouldn't work anyways, DCAU New Gods aren't weak to the stuff.

My charges fall to the ground, and I'm only just able to react to get a crashmat construct under Star Sapphire. Superman… Is… Now sporting a beard and.. decidedly barbarian-looking clothing, complete with a sword strapped to his back.
I guess not even Paul would have been able to stop DCAU Savage.
 
Difficulty

Day 97
17:05 GMT -5
Thank you, Mr Zoat. I think everyone will be happy with this.

...sprints down a side street towards a butning building.
...sprints down a side street towards a burning building.

His eyes then shift to the fallen Star Sapphire and Mr Doe.
'Mr Doe'? Who was that again? Checking back, Deadshot was the only male other than Kalibak seen in the previous chapters.

Then she recovers with a jaunty smile, electricity crackling arounds fists.
Then she recovers with a jaunty smile, electricity crackling around fists.
(or 'around her fists' for a clearer sentence)

...and a manhole cover embeds iself in the armour covering my face.
...and a manhole cover embeds itself in the armour covering my face.

His right hist crushes my construct shield and I back up again...
His right fist crushes my construct shield and I back up again...

...a energy pulse first at his eyes merely making him blink hard...
This seems out of place.

-falls on his face. Okay, I think Ms Willis is the larger threat to the city. Master, locate water pipe.
Heh. The big muscleman might seem scary, but the worst he can do is punch things...

I fly at Ms Willis as Kalibak picks himself up, surrounding her with a bubble construct before she can transubstantiate.
If anyone wonders what that means, Livewire can turn into electricity for faster movement.

Bullets ping off my construct armour. I ignore them/
Missed the Full Stop. ;)

...then slumps bonelessly to the buttom of the bubble.
...then slumps bonelessly to the bottom of the bubble.

Okay, Kalibak, weaknesses. Superman. No helpful. Radion. Master?
Okay, Kalibak, weaknesses. Superman. Not helpful. Radion. Master?

In the mean time I get the hose construct into position…
Usually spelt as 'meantime'.

With growing desperation his gives up on squeezing...
With growing desperation he gives up on squeezing...

Kalibak, son of Darkseid, collapses back onto the pavement.
Even the strongest man still needs to breathe. With exceptions...

...construct reaching out to pick up reach of my fallen foes in turn.
...construct reaching out to pick up each of my fallen foes in turn.

They fire the missile anyway, but I block it with Kalibak so no harm done.
Ow. I suppose that's one way to make him useful.

Love that flare of hope. Even if...

My charges fall to the ground, and I'm only just able to react to get a crashmat construct under Star Sapphire.
...Yup. Joy of lacking Enlightenment.

Superman… Is… Now sporting a beard and.. decidedly barbarian-looking clothing, complete with a sword strapped to his back.
Before looking, I pictured whatisname from Powers, Christian Walker, in his bronze age hero days...

Fight the power!

I glance at the police position as Margret Sawyer cautiously comes forward.
I glance at the police position as Margaret Sawyer cautiously comes forward.
(According to Wikipedia)

Glad to see this continued, Mr Zoat. Though I can see how quickly it was run off... I think everyone can agree, it was worth it?
 
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So will the AGL storyline actually have a conclusion?

He has shown remarkable willpower to resist the torture, so maybe he will get a regular Lantern Ring?
 
...sprints down a side street towards a butning building.
...sprints down a side street towards a burning building.
Then she recovers with a jaunty smile, electricity crackling arounds fists.
Then she recovers with a jaunty smile, electricity crackling around fists.
(or 'around her fists' for a clearer sentence)
...and a manhole cover embeds iself in the armour covering my face.
...and a manhole cover embeds itself in the armour covering my face.
His right hist crushes my construct shield and I back up again...
His right fist crushes my construct shield and I back up again...
...a energy pulse first at his eyes merely making him blink hard...
This seems out of place.
Bullets ping off my construct armour. I ignore them/
Missed the Full Stop. ;)

...then slumps bonelessly to the buttom of the bubble.
...then slumps bonelessly to the bottom of the bubble.
Okay, Kalibak, weaknesses. Superman. No helpful. Radion. Master?
Okay, Kalibak, weaknesses. Superman. Not helpful. Radion. Master?
In the mean time I get the hose construct into position…
Usually spelt as 'meantime'.
With growing desperation his gives up on squeezing...
With growing desperation he gives up on squeezing...
...construct reaching out to pick up reach of my fallen foes in turn.
...construct reaching out to pick up each of my fallen foes in turn.
I glance at the police position as Margret Sawyer cautiously comes forward.
I glance at the police position as Margaret Sawyer cautiously comes forward.
(According to Wikipedia)
Thank you, corrected.
My charges fall to the ground, and I'm only just able to react to get a crashmat construct under Star Sapphire.
...Yup. Joy of lacking Enlightenment.
Note that he let the rest hit the ground.
His eyes then shift to the fallen Star Sapphire and Mr Doe.
'Mr Doe'? Who was that again? Checking back, Deadshot was the only male other than Kalibak seen in the previous chapters.
Copperhead.
 
My charges fall to the ground, and I'm only just able to react to get a crashmat construct under Star Sapphire.
...Yup. Joy of lacking Enlightenment.
Note that he let the rest hit the ground.
I was talking about the Hope disrupting his Will momentarily, but that is notable.
His eyes then shift to the fallen Star Sapphire and Mr Doe.
'Mr Doe'? Who was that again? Checking back, Deadshot was the only male other than Kalibak seen in the previous chapters.
Copperhead.
Oh, yeah. Forgot about him. Not that he was much of a threat to a Lantern anyway...:rolleyes: The only thing he made an impact on in that fight was the ground.
 
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Wouldn't work anyways, DCAU New Gods aren't weak to the stuff.
Every version of the SI apparently loses the knowledge of whatever series they go to. OL noticed that when he was zapped into their heads by Ambush Bug. Red Lantern Paul didn't remember the Teen Titans, but OL did, while he didn't recognize the series he was put into.
 

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