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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

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Dr. Balewa's philosophy is always fun, given how he foils against Savage and Paul. He wants what is best for the world, but wants people to be able to figure things out themselves, which theoretically links all three but the way they approach it is completely different.

Society of the Just thing will either vindicate Paul's suspicions or it may end up a repeat of the JLU episode where Superman trashed what was a genuinely good piece of charity work.

Now where is Alan...
 
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"A most pleasing sight."

"Not too much of it on fire, you mean."

"I do not believe that it is our job to put out all of the fires."

"Me neither, but I still prefer it when they're not there."

"Members of the Justice League are surprisingly resistant to the idea of seeing themselves as gods. At first, I thought that it was modesty. Now, I think that it is self-delusion."
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Can we get a whole chapter of Doctor Mist's beliefs and the League reacting to and challenging his worldview? Some people aren't going to be happy about that conversation but it needs to happen especially since Liberty also brought this point up recently as well.
 
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"I could hev made myself King of Earth, you understand? And I am sure that you are thinking-."

"The practical advantages, yes."

"And yet, you hev avoided making yourself king. Ah."
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OL: Yeah, way too much paperwork. Only a total narcissist would actually want to rule an entire planet after considering how much effort it actually takes

Grayven: Okay, first, ouch. And second, it's actually a lot more efficient if you have a bunch of other people in charge of sections of your territory, and just be in charge of those people. Third, do you mind if we compare souls really quick? Kinda having an identity crisis at the moment and need a baseline.

OL: Oh, sure thing.

Grayven: Thanks man, that's really- JESUS FUCKING CHRIST WHY IS IT A SNAKE?!?!

Ophidian: Okay, first, ouch-
 
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I wager you could make a reasonably compelling children's television show with this premise. Teach kids about geography, culture, history....
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With JC as host? The MC? More like a young adults television show teaching about magic, rituals, demons and how to kill them.
 
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We're looking at one of the Alliance of the Just's quantum field towers, this one towering above every other building in Washington DC
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Okay, so you didn't mention if its taller then the Washington Monument, but its implied here.

It's illegal to build anything in Washington DC that is taller then the Washington Monument. It's been bitterly enforced in the past.

I expect if the Alliance of Just somehow got around that, then they are regularly fending off protests and various severities of attacks from Nationalistic citizens.
 
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Usually hyphenated. (Appears more than once.)

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a lot less well with American than it did with me.
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Okay, if it's not supposed to be "Americans" is it supposed to be "America"?

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Inconsistent. Probably want to remove the hyphen from the first one.
 
Just started re-re-reading the story again (third, maybe fourth time I have). Can't believe It has been so many years (Do people still remember Teekl best cat?), and even back then, on the first arc with Kent Nelson , the trope remains the same: We Cant Find John Constantine! Mr Zoat, keep up the good work, we really appreciate what you have done with this story
 
Does anyone else think that Paul inability to focus is a result of something John put in place to stop people from looking for him?
 
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That's been the general consensus for around an ark and a half now.

It could just be Paul feeling the aftershocks of that mess with the Qwa matter giving him an itch to get things done, but most bets are on John doing something funky.
 
Earth's Mightiest Negotiator (part 1)
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    Alert: portal detected.

    I come to a halt in the air over New York City's harbour, having just left the Avengers mansion. At Steve's recommendation, I've been flying around more rather than just transitioning everywhere, to let people see me, get used to me and occasionally ask questions. Even had a civil conversation with John Jonah Jameson, which went to show that he's a lot more reasonable when dealing with people who aren't Mister Parker.

    Source?

    A map appears in my head, supplemented a moment later by an image of-.

    Amora and Skurge. We haven't seen them since she tried seducing Thor after we were scattered across the Nine Realms. But them being back on Earth is not a good sign, and-.

    And I tilt my head back and exhale. I need to pick up Anna Marie, but… But I can't exactly complain about Tony's inability to talk people down if I don't try myself. Amora doesn't have any particular grudge against me… I don't think, and… This is part of being a hero. If someone like me doesn't try, who will?

    That said, I fly towards them rather than just appearing in front of them. Skurge is known to have an itchy axe finger… Or whatever the axe version of an itchy trigger finger is, and it's probably best to give them the time to mentally prepare themselves for interacting with me. Not sure why they're walking around… What appears to be a disused freight warehouse, but better there than somewhere with people I suppose.

    Amora spots me first, but just rolls her eyes and keeps going in the direction she was already heading. Skurge spots me a moment later and immediately turns to face me and readies his axe. I slow, raising my hands in a slightly dishonest show of nonaggression, hovering in the air at a distance that I think puts me out of Skurge's lunge range.

    I smile broadly. "Good afternoon!"

    Amora gazes at me through half-lidded eyes for a moment. "Oh, you're one of Thor's minions, aren't you?"

    "Very nearly."

    "I'm busy. What do you want?"

    "Peace and goodwill to all men." I nod. That was easy. "What do you want?"

    She rolls her eyes. "Go away. This doesn't concern you."

    "Right… See… I'm concerned that it might. And if I can help you get what you want in a way that doesn't turn parts of New York into smouldering craters, that's in my interests."

    I try smiling again. It doesn't seem to be working, but at least Skurge has lowered his axe. Slightly.

    "I am resolving some outstanding issues with the Masters of Evil. Your help is not required."

    I sigh quietly to myself. "Yes, I thought it might be about that. Look… I… I don't think that your… Your approach-"

    She snarls. "I will-."

    "-to pursuing Thor is going to work."

    That appears to give her pause. What, did she think he wasn't going to tell us about her hitting on him? Which naturally led into a long rambling and slightly drunken retelling of all of her previous attempts, and… And yes, I was the only one who wasn't drinking, but it wasn't that hard to spot the common thread connecting all of their interactions.

    "What business is it of yours?"

    "Thor's a friend of mine, and last time you made a play for him, I ended up having to fight Super-Loki. And I don't want to have to do that again. And I certainly don't have a problem with you.. getting together with Thor; I have no horse in the race at all. I just-. I just think that the way you're going about it is self-defeating."

    Her mouth relaxes but her eyes narrow. "Explain."

    She's listening? I mean, good, but I didn't really think-. Okay! Okay.

    "Thor… Doesn't like being pressured into doing things. The whole reason why the situation with Loki could happen is that Thor doesn't.. want to be tied down on Asgard. At the moment he wants to be hanging out with his comrades in arms and fighting the good fight. No matter… How.. good a match you'd be for him, I don't think you're the sort of person he's looking to have a relationship with at the moment."

    "He cavorts freely with that mortal woman. Why does she receive his favour while I do not?"

    "Do you know how long humans live?"

    She huffs. "Barely any time at all."

    "The oldest human we've got reliable records for lived about a hundred and twenty years. Eighty to ninety years is more common. Asgardians live a lot longer. To be blunt, even if they stayed together to the end of her life… She's not tying him down. Fifty to sixty years… That's nothing to him."

    She frowns, but thoughtfully.

    "And that's where you're going wrong, because… That's nothing to you, either." I shrug. "You can easily afford to run down the clock."

    "I should not have to!"

    "Then the question is, do you want to keep doing what you've done to date, which hasn't worked, or are you prepared to listen to my suggestion."

    "What do you know of Asgard? What do you know of Thor, brief mortal creature with a scant few decades of-."

    "I'm dating Hela."

    She blinks. And Skurge nearly drops his axe on his foot.

    "You're-? You're dating Hela?"

    "Yeah. That's where I ended up when the Norn Stones exploded. Spent some time in her realm, we hit it off, and… She seems nice?"

    She has an expression of mild horror on her face. "Or do you simply lust after dead flesh?"

    "The room temperature skin is a bit weird. She used to-. When we first started seeing each other, she used to wrap herself in warm towels before meeting me to try and stop me noticing, but… You know, everyone's got little.. oddities." I shrug. "And I've learned a lot about Asgardian culture and history from her."

    Amora's expression moves between various emotions, before she shakes her head in incomprehension. "Then, pray tell, what would you have me do?"

    "Thor isn't looking to hook up with someone who's queen material. What he wants is fellow warriors. My advice is that you ease off on the seduction thing; he knows that you're interested and nagging just puts him off and makes your position look weak. Instead, take the opportunity to fight alongside him. Make sure that he has good memories of working with you, because you can afford to play the very long term."

    Hela was pretty sure that Amora has never done anything long term in her life. Apparently, she got kicked out of witch school for her impatience, and just sort of went from one mentor figure to another learning what she could before they finally lost patience with her attitude and gave her the boot. But if she really wants Thor then she's going to be as well-motivated as she gets.

    She's looking at me sceptically, but at least she's listening.

    "And what about his pet human?"

    "The human brain stays infatuated for a few months at the start of a relationship. After that… They have very different lives. It's quite possible that those differences will drive them apart in a year or two anyway. And if it doesn't, it's a few decades. The important thing is that you don't have anything to do with their relationship ending, because if you do then he will remember that for the rest of your lives and that's a very long time. Killing her -if you were thinking of doing that- will actually hurt your cause."

    I can see her thinking it over, trying to find some fault in what I just said.

    "And if I am patient, what then?"

    "Then your time together will have caused you to build up a rapport, a sense of camaraderie, that will serve as a far better starting point than the antagonistic relationship you have now. And then, in the distant future when he's ready to settle down, there's his comrade in arms Amora, who's made no secret of her interest and shares centuries of history. There are no guarantees, but I really do think this is your best chance."

    "Fighting besides him."

    "Yes."

    "Hm." She appears to come to a conclusion. "I was hunting down the other Masters of Evil. I assume that he desires their defeat also?"

    "We're doing the same thing."

    "I somehow doubt that; I was planning on slaying them."

    Ah. "Now, normally I'd be fine saving Israel the cost of a rope, but in this instance I think that showing Thor that you're prepared to follow mortal law would work better for you. Because-."

    "Thor and I will outlive them all, yes. Very well; call upon Thor and we shall hunt these vermin together."
     
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    "The room temperature skin is a bit weird. She used to-. When he first starting seeing each other, she used to wrap herself in warm towels before meeting me to try and stop me noticing, but… You know, everyone's got little.. oddities." I shrug. "And I've learned a lot about Asgardian culture and history from her."
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    I sigh quietly to myself. "Yes, I thought it might be about that. Look… I… I don't think that your… Your approach-
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    That appears to give her pause. What, did she thing he wasn't going to tell us about her hitting on him? Which naturally led into a long rambling and slightly drunken retelling of all of her previous attempts, and… And yes, I was the only one who wasn't drinking, but it wasn't that hard to spot the common thread connecting all of their interactions.
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    "The room temperature skin is a bit weird. She used to-. When he first starting seeing each other, she used to wrap herself in warm towels before meeting me to try and stop me noticing, but… You know, everyone's got little.. oddities." I shrug. "And I've learned a lot about Asgardian culture and history from her."
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    "Thor isn't looking to look up with someone who's queen material. What he wants is fellow warriors. My advice is that you ease off on the seduction thing; he knows that you're interested and nagging just puts him off and makes your position look weak. Instead, take the opportunity to fight alongside him. Make sure that he has good memories of working with you, because you can afford to play the very long term."
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    Wasn't expecting the Marvel version of Paul to show up but it's great seeing more of him and getting an idea of what he's been up to.

    Paul's relationship with Hela would have a better chance at working out and lasting a very long time since Hela can't die (or at least, not in a way that matters) and Paul dying would just bring him to Hela.

    I wonder how Loki feels about one of his enemies, an ally of Thor and a mortal, dating his daughter (?). Loki wouldn't be so much "over protective dad", it's not like he could force Hela to stop seeing Paul anyways, but he might believe that this relationship would be bad for him since death could finally "stick" one day.
     
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    "The oldest human we've got reliable records for lived about a hundred and twenty years. Eighty to ninety years is more common. Asgardians live a lot longer. To be blunt, even if they stayed together to the end of her life… She's not tying him down. Fifty to sixty years… That's nothing to him
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    There's also the fact that she's not a manipulative criminal.

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    The fact that this incident was resolved so cleanly just because Marvel Paul decided to spite Tony and his lack of social skills by attempting to talk first amuses me greatly.
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    I mean, it's not as if the other Avengers ever say anything other like "stand down" or something.

    "What do you want and how can we get it together" is a uniquely Paul thing
     
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